CFO of Chinese tech giant Huawei arrested in Vancouver, sought by U.S. for extradition

[Han Patriot]

You forgot something: nobody will stand still waiting for China. Do you think if in 10 or 20 years China increases her military and economy, the US will back down. other neighbors will watch doing nothing? Man, you are a dreamer! In 10 years Vietnam will have the first strike carrier group too.

I mean seriously, the only real challenge to China is US. You might grow, so? Can you reach the level we are today? I doubt it, the political will, strategic planning and efficient execution required is above what you guys can do. The US don't have to back down, they can do all the tricks, all the lil' moves, we will still grow year by year. They know we won't destroy the ship, they won't either, that ship is the global trading system.

Vietnam will have a carrier. Gosh, don't be like the Indians OK, learn to make a destroyer first, the turbines in the destroyers, the missiles, the radars, the special metals, the system engineering, the naval architecture. You do not have the industrial base nor market. You are our cheap manufacturing base. Again, except for ethnic Hoas, I don't think you have enough brains to power your country.

 

[Viva_Viet]

I mean seriously, the only real challenge to China is US. You might grow, so? Can you reach the level we are today? I doubt it, the political will, strategic planning and efficient execution required is above what you guys can do. The US don't have to back down, they can do all the tricks, all the lil' moves, we will still grow year by year. They know we won't destroy the ship, they won't either, that ship is the global trading system.

Vietnam will have a carrier. Gosh, don't be like the Indians OK, learn to make a destroyer first, the turbines in the destroyers, the missiles, the radars, the special metals, the system engineering, the naval architecture. You do not have the industrial base nor market. You are our cheap manufacturing base. Again, except for ethnic Hoas, I don't think you have enough brains to power your country.

bro, making a carrier is not big work. Remember how CN made a carrier ?? U bought a carrier from Ukraine and tried buy its blue print,too. Thats how CN made a carrier.

But a carrier is no use to VN, so we dont buy its blue print.

CN only copy from the others. The only one good thing u dont copy is 5G, and thats the reason why Huawei got hard slap from Canada. ha ha ha

 

[Han Patriot]

bro, making a carrier is not big work. Remember how CN made a carrier ?? U bought a carrier from Ukraine and tried buy its blue print,too. Thats how CN made a carrier.

But a carrier is no use to VN, so we dont buy its blue print.

CN only copy from the others. The only one good thing u dont copy is 5G, and thats the reason why Huawei got hard slap from Canada. ha ha ha

You can try bro, be my guest. . In the meantime, ask India how is it going.

 

[Mista]

the votebanks are shouting, farmers are in debt in the midwest

They aren't numerous enough to be votebanks. Agriculture workers makes up only 1%+ of US labor force, and how many of them grow soybeans? However farmers hold a disproportionate amount of voice in the media because they are considered as the traditional 'working class' which ordinary Americans sympathize with. Trump has to act like he cares about rural farmers.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USAPEMANA

Huawei is in a better position because most components are self made compared to ZTE.

Don't think so. Huawei is still quite dependent on US technology and that is why Meng got caught.

From the OP:

U.S. authorities have been probing Huawei, one of the world's largest makers of telecommunications network equipment, since at least 2016 on allegations that it shipped U.S.-derived tech products to Iran and other countries in violation of U.S. export and sanctions laws, sources told Reuters in April.

Bro, we still need 20 years to fully develop, bide your time. You forgot what your ancestors thought you, sharpen your knife for 10 years, use it for 1 day. Learn to have a level head and remain chillax, play the game.

Agreed. China needs to be clear-headed, humble and grow quietly. It's premature for China to challenge the US and I've said this long ago, but nationalistic Chinese posters here say I'm just being anti-China. The Chinese state media (especially the Global Times) continued their nationalistic hoo-ha, 以牙还牙 奉陪到底 厉害了我的国 etc, until the ZTE saga happened and Trump raised tariffs to cover $250b of goods; acts which China can't 'retaliate with equal force'. It was only until then the media realized they are too proud for their own good and toned down the nationalistic rhetoric.

 

[Han Patriot]

They aren't numerous enough to be votebanks. Agriculture workers makes up only 1%+ of US labor force, and how many of them grow soybeans? However farmers hold a disproportionate amount of voice in the media because they are considered as the traditional 'working class' which ordinary Americans sympathize with. Trump has to act like he cares about rural farmers.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USAPEMANA

I would beg to differ, it's not the number of farmers per se, it's the states whose economy are dependent on it. Entire communities are build around these farmers.

Don't think so. Huawei is still quite dependent on US technology and that is why Meng got caught.

From the OP:

Of course they can't be fully independent, but I was reading an analysis between ZTE and Huawei the other day, it said HUAWEI is nearly independent in most of the components and what they are not can be sourced from European or Japanese sources. If they could have done a ZTE on Huawei, they wouldn't need to kidnap the daughter. It is exactly because they can't control Huawei, and hence they need to resort to this.

Agreed. China needs to be clear-headed, humble and grow quietly. It's premature for China to challenge the US and I've said this long ago, but nationalistic Chinese posters here say I'm just being anti-China. The Chinese state media (especially the Global Times) continued their nationalistic hoo-ha, 以牙还牙 奉陪到底 厉害了我的国 etc, until the ZTE saga happened and Trump raised tariffs to cover $250b of goods; acts which China can't 'retaliate with equal force'. It was only until then the media realized they are too proud for their own good and toned down the nationalistic rhetoric.

I see no reason to 'destroy' the very system which sustains us so well. The US knows it too, but we had been skimming the cream on top of the milk for too long. There needs to be punishment to appease the anxious Whites. They already feel threatened by the Blacks and Latinos and their lost privileges. To challenge the system means we force the US to share the system on an equal basis, currently they are the parasites in this system. We want our share too. Nothing wrong with Globaltimes, we need to appease our domestic audiences too. Notice how we retaliated, they 110 bil$ was roughly half of what US did to us, this is important to show the US we want to negotiate, we could have made it worse. Trump was pissed on the press coverage blasting his so called deals, we kept quiet and didn't agree with his tweets, so he needed to vent his anger on a poor bitch. In the end, there is gonna be punishments and as usual we need to appear accepting it, the deficit will still be there, we would still grow and absorb technology and Trump will be a hero. =). If anything, this trade war is a reaction to our rise, they are afraid. =)

And this is happening despite us being militarily so benign, no wars for the past 30 years. I blame the last 10 years of us showing off our stealth tech, railgun, EMALS, hypersonic weapons etc. We are now on par with them except in jet engines. We should have just kept quiet and pretended we are worse than India, then they would think no worries, just Chinamen.

 

[nang2]

I hope Huawei's lawyer team is competent enough to work through Canadian legal system and free her.

 

[Viet]

I mean seriously, the only real challenge to China is US. You might grow, so? Can you reach the level we are today? I doubt it, the political will, strategic planning and efficient execution required is above what you guys can do. The US don't have to back down, they can do all the tricks, all the lil' moves, we will still grow year by year. They know we won't destroy the ship, they won't either, that ship is the global trading system.

Vietnam will have a carrier. Gosh, don't be like the Indians OK, learn to make a destroyer first, the turbines in the destroyers, the missiles, the radars, the special metals, the system engineering, the naval architecture. You do not have the industrial base nor market. You are our cheap manufacturing base. Again, except for ethnic Hoas, I don't think you have enough brains to power your country.

China is a copy paste nation. You overestimate yourself.

Vietnam used to make everything better than China. Take gun powder weapons: it was Chinese that invented the stuffs but it was the Vietnamese that produced far better versions of guns.

What do you think why Vietnam annihilated enemies in series: the Han, the Mongols, Manchu, Siamese, Khmer, Laos, Champa, just name a few. I don’t bother to list the wars in the last century. When did you win a war? Despite rapid military buildup the PLA today is still untested.

If China is stripped off all western technology imports, you would probably run naked or wear silly Ming dress

 

[zectech]

China is a copy paste nation. You overestimate yourself.

Vietnam used to make everything better than China. Take gun powder weapons: it was Chinese that invented the stuffs but it was the Vietnamese that produced far better versions of guns.

What do you think why Vietnam annihilated enemies in series: the Han, the Mongols, Manchu, Siamese, Khmer, Laos, Champa, just name a few. I don’t bother to list the wars in the last century. When did you win a war? Despite rapid military buildup the PLA today is still untested.

If China is stripped off all western technology imports, you would probably run naked or wear silly Ming dress

When all your grandchildren are slaves of zionists and Vietnam has a permanent jewish premier, you will be wishing China was strong to defeat the slavers in the West.

After China is gone, here will be your new masters:

China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey and Indonesia among other Asian countries stand in the way of endless slavery to the zionists.

 

[Viva_Viet]

China is a copy paste nation. You overestimate yourself.

Vietnam used to make everything better than China. Take gun powder weapons: it was Chinese that invented the stuffs but it was the Vietnamese that produced far better versions of guns.

What do you think why Vietnam annihilated enemies in series: the Han, the Mongols, Manchu, Siamese, Khmer, Laos, Champa, just name a few. I don’t bother to list the wars in the last century. When did you win a war? Despite rapid military buildup the PLA today is still untested.

If China is stripped off all western technology imports, you would probably run naked or wear silly Ming dress

ha ha ha. while Cnese shouting loudly here, Huawei just losing $$$ billions ha ha ha

Lets guess what is the next $$$ billion target for US ?? Xiaomi ?? Alibaba ha ha ha

 

[zectech]

China steal technology??

Meng Wanzhou, the CFO of China's Huawei Technologies and the daughter of the company's founder, was detained in Vancouver on December 1 and faces extradition to the United States amid reported allegations that she assisted the world's second-largest smartphone maker in evading U.S. sanctions on Iran. News of the arrest, which only came to light late Wednesday, sent U.S. futures sharply lower and pulled stocks in Asia in Europe firmly the downside as investors worried of reprisals from Beijing and the potential collapse of the uneasy truce between Presidents Donald Trump and Xi Jinping.

https://www.thestreet.com/markets/g...t-tests-uneasy-u-s-china-trade-truce-14802347

Not UN sanctions, but US sanctions. Is the criminal Washington regime who sanctions anyone who thinks differently than the zionists, now declaring themselves to be the rulers of China?

I wonder if Vietnam want to go down the Indian road to be the side-kick to these zionist criminals.

The criminal Washington regime is the ones in violation of the UN sanctions on Iran in trying to sanction the whole world to get the whole world to stop buying Iranian oil, in complete opposition to UN resolutions.

Anyone who does not fall in line with the neo-nazis is attacked with sanctions, threats, bribery, blackmail, for instance North Korea, China, Erodgan's Turkey and Iran.

 

[Beast]

China is a copy paste nation. You overestimate yourself.

Vietnam used to make everything better than China. Take gun powder weapons: it was Chinese that invented the stuffs but it was the Vietnamese that produced far better versions of guns.

What do you think why Vietnam annihilated enemies in series: the Han, the Mongols, Manchu, Siamese, Khmer, Laos, Champa, just name a few. I don’t bother to list the wars in the last century. When did you win a war? Despite rapid military buildup the PLA today is still untested.

If China is stripped off all western technology imports, you would probably run naked or wear silly Ming dress

Typical sourgraped

https://www.insidescience.org/news/china-leader-quantum-communications

https://phys.org/news/2017-05-satellite-scale-china-afforestation-success.amp

Maybe China take a time machine back to future to steal these technology? Stupidity has no limit. No wonder Vietnamese are so backwards compare to Chinese.....

 

[Viva_Viet]

China steal technology??

Meng Wanzhou, the CFO of China's Huawei Technologies and the daughter of the company's founder, was detained in Vancouver on December 1 and faces extradition to the United States amid reported allegations that she assisted the world's second-largest smartphone maker in evading U.S. sanctions on Iran. News of the arrest, which only came to light late Wednesday, sent U.S. futures sharply lower and pulled stocks in Asia in Europe firmly the downside as investors worried of reprisals from Beijing and the potential collapse of the uneasy truce between Presidents Donald Trump and Xi Jinping.

https://www.thestreet.com/markets/g...t-tests-uneasy-u-s-china-trade-truce-14802347

Not UN sanctions, but US sanctions. Is the criminal Washington regime who sanctions anyone who thinks differently than the zionists, now declaring themselves to be the rulers of China?

I wonder if Vietnam want to go down the Indian road to be the side-kick to these zionist criminals.

The criminal Washington regime is the ones in violation of the UN sanctions on Iran in trying to sanction the whole world to get the whole world to stop buying Iranian oil, in complete opposition to UN resolutions.

Anyone who does not fall in line with the neo-nazis is attacked with sanctions, threats, bribery, blackmail, for instance North Korea, China, Erodgan's Turkey and Iran.

CN has licked US'azz since 1979 for money and begged for US's help to bully VN. Now US dislike u and bully u, then u turn to blame VN ???

ha ha ha.we dont give a damn, just can stop laughing to see Huawei losing billion $$$$ .....and what is the next billion $$$ target ?? Alibaba ??

 

[maximuswarrior]

The Americans are biting off more than they can chew. China should do something really crazy with US debt to drive home the message. The Yanks are in absolute panic mode. One suicide after another. The Americans are filled to the neck with problems. China can bleed the US in so many ways now. The US is picking a very wrong fight here.

 

[Viet]

ha ha ha. while Cnese shouting loudly here, Huawei just losing $$$ billions ha ha ha

Lets guess what is the next $$$ billion target for US ?? Xiaomi ?? Alibaba ha ha ha

From the beginning Huawei is suspect, how can a company be trusted when led by a former Pla man? I don’t buy Huawei shares but bought Tencent. Now it is in deep red territory, -22 percent this morning now -27 percent, I am losing money

 

[zectech]

From the beginning Huawei is suspect, how can a company be trusted when led by a former Pla man? I don’t buy Huawei shares but bought Tencent. Now it is in deep red territory, -22 percent this morning now -27 percent, I am losing money

That is the whole point of these trade wars and conflicts. The new zionist war is against Asians, when before it was against "white males". Now that the Trump bandwagon has acquired most of the previous targeted group to hate, Muslims, Mexicans and Asians are the new groups that is ok to persecute and discriminate against.

The way out is to destroy the G. Satan, best of luck China with that.

US markets go down 2% and Asian markets go down 10%. There is a plan there.