Centre to clear Russian S-400 purchases ahead of Modi-Putin meet

[raktaka]

Can some one tell me this
5 systems
6000 missiles

Now what i have read is this
Only 1 system comprising up to eight divisions (battalions) can control up to 72 launchers, with a maximum of 384 missiles


One division of the C-400 can include about six launchers, and the means of location, guidance and control.
Ракеты для С-400 поставят на поток в третьем квартале 2010 года | РИА Новости

Courtesy Sputnik
Main line
Numbre de missile par rampe meaning Missile number per ramp where 384 is written as total


Now 6000 missiles
Assuming all missiles are reloaded so each system carries 384+384 = 768

So 6000 missiles divided by 768 = 7.65 systems

Even if make it 384+384+384 = =1152 then 6000/1152 = 5.2 systems

So unless someone tells me we are buying just 5 systems with 1x firing and 2x reloading ability looks a bit difficult

1x firing and 1x reload = 7+ systems

1X firing and 0.5 X Long Ranged SAMs reloading = 384+192 = 576 implying 6000/576 = 10.42 systems
(Short ranged SAMs will be used only when LR SAMs are exhausted and in process of reload implying targets breaching the first tier 400km or even second trier 250 km breached and now 120kms SAM to engage - a scenario for saturation attack or large number of airspace hostiles infringement)

I think article is somewhat incomplete. Feel some key infor missing...
@vostok
Sir, Can you help us with some information. If 6000 Missiles are ordered, Can you help us define how many systems and approximate batallions comprising of or say per system missile numbers + reload to understand the number of systems India is procuring...

You have solved your own riddle.

40,000 Crores is 6 Billion for 5 Systems with 8 Regiments each.

Each System will contain 384+384+384 i.e Two sets of reload in Transport and Reloading Vehicle.

That makes is 5.2 systems, with 0.2 system for tests and training.

Each S400 system will cost 1.2 Billion $.

So each missile will cost 1 million $.


Pinaka deal is for 2.1 Billion $. for 6 Regiment. Each Regiment with 3 batteries and each Battery with 72 Missiles along with 72 missiles in Reloaders and 72 missiles in replenishment vehicles. i.e. 72+72+72 = 216 Missiles.

So 6 Regiments have 216 x 3x 6 = 3888 Missiles. i.e. 0.3 million $ per missile

 

[GURU DUTT]

Bhaiya Theek Theek laga loo, Aadha Darzan lelenge! Hamesha aaap se he leten hain !!!

bhai ji yahan per S400 ki baat ho rahee hai desi daru ki botol ki nahee

 

[PARIKRAMA]

You have solved your own riddle.

40,000 Crores is 6 Billion for 5 Systems with 8 Regiments each.

Each System will contain 384+384+384 i.e Two sets of reload in Transport and Reloading Vehicle.

That makes is 5.2 systems, with 0.2 system for tests and training.

Each S400 system will cost 1.2 Billion $.

So each missile will cost 1 million $.


Pinaka deal is for 2.1 Billion $. for 6 Regiment. Each Regiment with 3 batteries and each Battery with 72 Missiles along with 72 missiles in Reloaders and 72 missiles in replenishment vehicles. i.e. 72+72+72 = 216 Missiles.

So 6 Regiments have 216 x 3x 6 = 3888 Missiles. i.e. 0.3 million $ per missile

But Vostok sir quoted equal number in TEL and reloads implying more than 5.2 systems ...

"As far as I know, anti-aircraft regiments, armed with S-400 consists of 2 (3) divisions. Total - 18 launchers, 72 missiles. And at least the same number of missiles in the transport and loading vehicle."

Source: Centre to clear Russian S-400 purchases ahead of Modi-Putin meet

Unless India might be saying simply systems and internally configuring more regiments launchers and thus beyond 384 missiles (perhaps use of multiple command centers)
More like 576 missiles ready to fire and 576reloads making 5.2 systems

 

[vostok]

cost??

I'm afraid I do not have the answer to this question.

 

[raktaka]

But Vostok sir quoted equal number in TEL and reloads implying more than 5.2 systems ...

"As far as I know, anti-aircraft regiments, armed with S-400 consists of 2 (3) divisions. Total - 18 launchers, 72 missiles. And at least the same number of missiles in the transport and loading vehicle."

Source: Centre to clear Russian S-400 purchases ahead of Modi-Putin meet

Unless India might be saying simply systems and internally configuring more regiments launchers and thus beyond 384 missiles (perhaps use of multiple command centers)
More like 576 missiles ready to fire and 576reloads making 5.2 systems

Also possible.

It is clear that India will customise the system to its own unique challenges and requirement to ensure maximum coverage.

 

[DavidSling]

On 17 November 2010, in an interview Rafael's Vice President Mr. Lova Drori confirmed that the David's Sling system has been offered to the Indian Armed Forces. But Still India is going for S -400 so we can just assume that S-400 had slight upper-hand on David's Sling

doubtful, David sling is being developed by Rafael as main contractor and include Raytheon as a contractor too, besides that, USA is funding this system, and most likely to include those missiles in their patriot systems.
that's why, any sell of this system to foreign powers needs american permission.
"In July 2013, Raytheon revealed it was working with international partners to develop a new air-defense missile system. The system is based on the AN/MPQ-53 radar from the MIM-104 Patriot, a Kongsberg/Raytheon Fire Direction Center, and the Rafael Stunner surface-to-air missile.
In August 2013, Raytheon and Rafael began to seek funding for a fourth-generation Patriot intercepting system, called the Patriot Advanced Affordable Capability-4 (PAAC-4). The system aims to integrate the Stunner interceptor from the jointly-funded David's Sling program with Patriot PAC-3 radars, launchers, and engagement control stations. The two-stage, multimode seeking Stunner would replace single-stage, radar-guided PAC-3 missiles produced by Lockheed Martin. Government and industry sources claim the Stunner-based PAAC-4 interceptors will offer improved operational performance at 20 percent of the $2 million unit cost of the Lockheed-built PAC-3 missiles. The companies are seeking $20 million in U.S. government funding to demonstrate cost and performance claims through a prototype PAAC-4 system. Israeli program officials have said that a previous teaming agreement between Raytheon and Rafael would allow the U.S. company to assume prime contractor status, and produce at least 60 percent of the Stunner missile in the United States. The Missile Defense Agency has said that the U.S. Army is considering use of the Stunner as a potential solution to future U.S. military requirements."