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Celebrating Paksat-1R: Pakistani drones - a dream or reality?

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For the longest time, Pakistan has had the ambition of owning and operating armed unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) like the CIA’s Predator and Reaper.
Previously, the refrain in the local drone manufacturing industry and armed forces was that Pakistan didn’t have a satellite of its own. Thus, it was next to impossible to even think about acquiring or building such complex aircraft.
However, with the first anniversary of Pakistan’s first ever fully functional communication satellite, the Paksat-1R, on August 12 – is the ambition still a pipe dream?
Military applications
Although Paksat-1R is a commercial satellite used widely by media houses and telecom companies, can it – if the need arises – be used for military purposes?
“The focus of communication satellites such as Paksat-1R is to contribute towards the socio-economic development of the country,” Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (Suparco) Chairman Ahmed Bilal told The Express Tribune.
However, he doesn’t dismiss the possibility completely. “You can use a knife to cut vegetables, but it can also be used to … (points towards his throat).”
The Suparco chairman chose his words carefully when asked whether Paksat-1R could support any future local drone endeavours of Pakistan. “Satellites don’t give us anything in real time. But the technology can complement a number of [other complex] systems.”
Bilal also clarified that contrary to popular belief, Pakistan Army was not the biggest client of the Paksat-1R, adding that the telecom sector and media houses were its major customers.
Need for satellite links?
Modern drones are designed to fly autonomously, which means they can be preprogrammed to fly a route until fuel and batteries run out.
Locally manufactured unmanned aircraft in Pakistan face limitations beyond a 200-kilometre radius from their point of control. Ground stations stop receiving any video or data from the drones which also affects the ability to control and manipulate cameras, sensors and armaments on board the aircraft.
This is where the satellite link comes in: it relays data back to the operator and can be used to send commands to the drone.
Limitations
Aerospace design engineer from MIT and Integrated Dynamics CEO Raja Sabri Khan stresses the link is not the only factor in developing Predator-level drones. “The satellite provides a long range monitoring and control link between the operator and the drone; it does not replace the essential systems required to operate and manufacture the drone.”
Managing director of another local UAV manufacturer East West Infiniti, Dr Haroon Javed Qureshi says the Paksat-1R is a geostationary satellite with an approximate distance of 38,000 kilometres from central Pakistan. US military satellites, on the other hand, are not geostationary. Instead, they are Middle Earth Orbiting (MEO) or Low Earth Orbiting (LEO) satellites.
Pakistan already has a wide range of locally manufactured unmanned aircraft such as the Pakistan Navy’s recently inducted Uqaab series. But none of them are armed or designed for long endurances.
Raja Sabri Khan says their range is limited to only a few hours as compared to the US Predator’s 48 hours over station capability. The satellite has nothing to do with this lack of capability.
State vs private-run industry
Dr Qureshi says complex systems such as the Predators evolved over 15-16 years.
Pakistan flew its first UAV in 1992: around the same time the US was developing the Predator.
“The key difference is that all US/Israeli UAV programmes are private businesses; the government just pays them development costs, but here all the projects are state-owned and we just pay salaries,” adds a skeptical Qureshi.
“The bottom line is we are not using the right methodology and lack the vision or drive. The moment military and government establishments leave this to the [private companies in the local drone manufacturing] industry, we may actually have a system that can be called the Pakistani Predator.”
 
Yup totally agree, apart telemetry of the UAV, one needs a highly sophisticated on the vehicle to cope with different situations, as it is not possible for it to remain in touch with the command center infinitely (considering jamming). It is evident from a small UAV. Also the "Brain" on the vehicle has to do the flying part alone, it takes commands from the pilots but it flies itself. Once that is mastered along with a parallel dev of propulsion, endurance and sensor suite, PAF, PA or PN is ready for UCAV development.
 
Chinese agreed to provide satellite services for UCAVs. Pakistan already has fielded CH-3 UCAVs and will field better versions in the future , now how is that happening ?
 
Life span of this satellite ?

...15 years i guess?
 
Prove that Paksat-1R is designed and manufactured in Pakistan or else accept that you are a troll.
The above sentence proves you are really a TROLL, Neither me Nor my Article Claimed That Pak Made Paksat on its own. China helped us build it, as china is our friend but this doesnt mean Pakistan Cant Build Satellites On Its OWN.
Seeing Pak-China Cooperation, Indias Back Starts Burning.:pakistan::china:

You thought to give a list of indian missiles with claims of DRDO, would be cool but those are made in Israel and Russias. India just paints THem.
 
PAKSAT 1R is a communication satellite and is not meant to control or provide DATA to UCAVs
The best possible military application of PAKSAT 1R is communication :)
This can happen only in Future, with a proposed 2014 launch of PRSSS, Pakistan will have its won satellite to support its UCAVs!
DETAILS
http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...llite-paksat-1r-lauched-august-11-2011-a.html

Chinese agreed to provide satellite services for UCAVs. Pakistan already has fielded CH-3 UCAVs and will field better versions in the future , now how is that happening ?
To add to this, Pakistan and China have signed an agreement accordingly to which Pakistan have an agreement with China and we have access to Military Grade Images from Beidou Navigation System. The images and graphical data (Maps and Terrain details) from there are being used in navigation of our cruise missiles (RAAD and BABUR) and in other TERCOM aided systems for geographical data feeds.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...ur-cruise-missile-database-5.html#post3082744

The planned PRSSS for a 2014 launch will provide Pakistan with an own satellite to do this job!!
http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...nsing-satellite-system-prsss.html#post2027325
 
Pakistan is working on its own version of Armed Drone for quite some time, when will they be rolling out I have no idea but I am waiting for them anxiously.

Many people have called & are still calling Chinese CH-3 Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle, BURRAQ Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle, don’t know how true is that. Then there is Chinese Pterodactyl Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle which is identical to US Predator, this is what Pakistan seriously needs to think of buying from China because Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle is a very important requirement for Pak Army today.
 
It is quite hard to understand what is stopping PA for going for UCAV now. Its not funds as we are spending on other projects as well whereas the UCAVs are the need of hour.
Armed 24/7 surveillance if the Pa-Afghan border is required to fight insurgents who are being provided shelter and safe heaven in Afghanistan. We can not keep an eye of this terrain from man posts, need an eye in sky and need it capable to deliver the death punch!!

We have two Chinese options at hand, also the PA's BURRAQ is no myth, it is a real project but why so slow is not understandable.

The UAV is one field Pakistan have done good, making various models with different specs and mission configurations. the best part is the involvement of private sector firms in R&D of UAVs. Although, as usual, these have not be marketed properly and didn't got the support they deserve from military and Government but still they are there.
Steps are required to be taken to ensure encouragement of these private sector firms, instead of Shadows and Falcos, our armed forced must also go for local UAV product so the revenue generated by these firms is used in development of local UCAV.

PA must serious consider getting some armed UAV drones to combat terrorism, to ensure 24/7 surveillance of Pakistan-Afghanistan border. This will not only help Pakistan strategically as the insurgency can be fought better but diplomatically it will help shut mouth of those who say that we are not doing anything is this creepy campaign!!

All said, once again, PAKSAT 1R have nothing to do with Pakistan UAV plans! :)

regards!
 
The above sentence proves you are really a TROLL, Neither me Nor my Article Claimed That Pak Made Paksat on its own. China helped us build it, as china is our friend but this doesnt mean Pakistan Cant Build Satellites On Its OWN.
Seeing Pak-China Cooperation, Indias Back Starts Burning.:pakistan::china:

You thought to give a list of indian missiles with claims of DRDO, would be cool but those are made in Israel and Russias. India just paints THem.

Baccha...do you know what is called Space research???

Please dont compare India with Pakistan in space research:rofl::rofl:
 

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