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[rmi5]

A lot of the Turks were not Sunnis but actually Sufi except for the squarely Shia tribes, that is why Turks have always been more open minded compared to the hardliner wahabbis you see amongst Arabs. I think the same order you mentioned is called Halveti in Turkey.

That's right. But, it is not only for sunni turks, Shia turks have had Sufi orders as well Sufism has been very common among Anatolian, and Azerbaijani Turks, regardless of their sect of religion. All of them, Shia, Alevi, Sunni, have had Sufi orders

 

[KingMamba]

There are still some Sufi orders in South Azerbaijan. One of my close relatives was into this stuff, and had a high rank in one of them.

Lol my distant cousin is the current head of my family's order, all he does is make people these charms we call them taveez all day long.

Do you Turks wear them too? Made out of leather with like Quran inscriptions and stuff?

 

[rmi5]

The one @ASQ-1918 posted earlier where he said the Qizilbash considered the Safavids Imams as well.

I thought it meant red hair didn't know it was in reference to a hat but I just google imaged it funny *** head wear.

They are pretty awesome hats. A bit off from the current fashion, though

 

[KingMamba]

They are pretty awesome hats. A bit off from the current fashion, though

This is by far the most bad *** Turkish head wear.

 

[rmi5]

Lol my distant cousin is the current head of my family's order, all he does is make people these charms we call them taveez all day long.

Do you Turks wear them too? Made out of leather with like Quran inscriptions and stuff?

Actually, my father hates these stuff. it is a long story, but he always kept us away from these stuff.
Basically, taveez is called "Do'aa" here, as well. it is some written religious notes, to reach your wishes, or for supernatural related stuff. How to use ta'veez, depends on the special Sufi leader that you have. it is not the same everywhere

This is by far the most bad *** Turkish head wear.

 

[KingMamba]

Actually, my father hates these stuff. it is a long story, but he always kept us away from these stuff.
Basically, taveez is called "Do'aa" here, as well. it is some written religious notes, to reach your wishes, or for supernatural related stuff. How to use ta'veez, depends on the special Sufi leader that you have. it is not the same everywhere

Pakistanis are superstitious people, a lot of Pakistanis ask me to make them one.

 

[Hakan]

Yes, that part is clearly referring to ancestry, it comes together with al-Safavi, al-Husayni and al-Musavi. These were ancestries claimed by Shah Ismail. Shah Ismail had direct Bayandur Oghuz ancestry via his Aq-Qoyunlu half, so it's evident that he claimed Turkic ancestry in addition to Seyid ancestry (and he had grounds and reasons to do so).

I thought he was kurdish.

 

[ASQ-1918]

@KingMamba

By the way, I checked the wikipedia page and it's mentioned that Omar Khalwati was supposedly from Khorasan. His birthplace are mentioned as Avakhyl, a village of Shamakha, in Azerbaijani sources. Given that his order was carried on by Yahya Bakuvi from Shamakha, I'd say that Shamakha is the more likely birthplace.

 

[Hakan]

Actually, my father hates these stuff. it is a long story, but he always kept us away from these stuff.
Basically, taveez is called "Do'aa" here, as well. it is some written religious notes, to reach your wishes, or for supernatural related stuff. How to use ta'veez, depends on the special Sufi leader that you have. it is not the same everywhere

Pakistanis are superstitious people, a lot of Pakistanis ask me to make them one.

Gotta watch out for some of those guys not all so called "sufis" are legit.

 

[KingMamba]

By the way, I checked the wikipedia page and it's mentioned that Omar Khalwati was supposedly from Khorasan. It's mentioned as Avakhyl, a village of Shamakha, in Azerbaijan sources. His order was carried on by Yahya Bakuvi from Shamakhi, I'd say that Shamakha is the more likely birthplace.

I don't think such things matter Sufi orders always used to travel most lived their whole lives as dervishes, there were no bills to pay back then.

 

[rmi5]

Pakistanis are superstitious people, a lot of Pakistanis ask me to make them one.

You can dig their money, if you want

 

[KingMamba]

Gotta watch out for some of those guys not all so called "sufis" are legit.

I know here in nyc there was some **** dude handing out charms for cash and making prediction about people's future while charging people along the way. Total disgraceful faker.

 

[rmi5]

Gotta watch out for some of those guys not all so called "sufis" are legit.

legit?
depends on how you define the word legit. In a sense, none of religious organizations are legit, besides that, there are not much different.

 

[KingMamba]

You can dig their money, if you want

Nah I wouldn't be able to pull it off and I feel like if God was going to smite someone over something that swindling people out of money like that would be it.

 

[rmi5]

I know here in nyc there was some **** dude handing out charms for cash and making prediction about people's future while charging people along the way. Total disgraceful faker.

It is a good business though. I bet he earns much more money than an engineer.