Casualties feared as militants attack Iran army parade

[Aramagedon]

Seriously where are the "adults" in our military !!! The only only only only viable way to repel these dangerous games being played by UAE & SA and their backers is underground nuke test. US would never ever allow a nuclear armed country to descend into chaos or fragmentation because the risks of nukes falling to wrong hand is immensely dangerous to their strategy.
It's jaw dropping that after so many years being sanctions for our nuclear activity and yet we haven't build a bomb. Seriously who's the idiot making these dumb strategic decisions? WTF!!!
Even a 5 year old kid will tell you if you wanna spare yourself from foreigners dangerous games is to arm yourself with nukes, it's a no brainier and now we have the perfect excuse to build it for our own survival !!!

People voted to peace lover Mr Rohani.

And btw they know we have nukes and Icbms. (even if we don’t have nukes we have full nuclear fuel cycle)

Furthermore in modern warfares nukes are useless. BMs can do the job straightly..

 

[Flag_Combo]

People voted to peace lover Mr Rohani.

And btw they know we have nukes and Icbms. (even if we don’t have nukes we have full nuclear fuel cycle)

Furthermore in modern warfares nukes are almost useless.

I know people voted for Rouhani but surely the dynamics of the game has changed dramatically. It's wise to change tactics as the players are changing their behavior hence we need to be more flexible to building nukes. It's true nukes are useless in modern warfare but it's the best guarantee one would get to send a message to others, plus no one would dare to fragment the country.

 

[Aramagedon]

I know people voted for Rouhani but surely the dynamics of the game has changed dramatically. It's wise to change tactics as the players are changing their behavior hence we need to be more flexible to building nukes. It's true nukes are useless in modern warfare but it's the best guarantee one would get to send a message to others, plus no one would dare to fragment the country.

Ayatollah Khameni has stated from very past we need 190,000 centrifuges but reformists always have had shown dissentient.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/irans-supreme-leader-we-want-190000-centrifuges

Even in his recent speech when Ayatollah Khamenei said we need 190,000 centrifuges the Rohani showed frown on his face.

 

[Flag_Combo]

Ayatollah Khameni has stated from very past we need 190,000 centrifuges but reformists always have had shown dissentient.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/irans-supreme-leader-we-want-190000-centrifuges

Even in his recent speech when Ayatollah Khamenei said we need 190,000 centrifuges the Rohani showed frown on his face.

Honestly we don't need 190k centrifuges where they all get blown up by a US air strike or something similar. what's the point of 190k? why not 300K? or 900k? my point is having centrifuges without actually building the bomb is like inviting the enemy to bomb the shit out of the centrifuges facilities. As a matter of fact is a strategic mistake, all these centrifuges need to be scattered around the country instead of being concentrated in one location.

we just need several cascade deep underground in an unknown location with the aim of building dozen or so nukes. Why waste our resources by just expanding the number of centrifuges? what do we gain from that? I can't see any benefit from such a strategy.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

We stand with Iran.

 

[Arminkh]

I know people voted for Rouhani but surely the dynamics of the game has changed dramatically. It's wise to change tactics as the players are changing their behavior hence we need to be more flexible to building nukes. It's true nukes are useless in modern warfare but it's the best guarantee one would get to send a message to others, plus no one would dare to fragment the country.

It would only start a nuclear race in the region. Will not serve any interest for us and will kill any sympathy the world has towards Iran and would prove US right.

 

[VEVAK]

It would only start a nuclear race in the region. Will not serve any interest for us and will kill any sympathy the world has towards Iran and would prove US right.

I would disagree, the U.S. left the JCPOA and because they did that leaves the door opened for Iran to start covert Nuclear Enrichment and as soon as your a few weeks before having your first 2-3 Nukes you leave the NPT and the only way you'll agree to go back is if all sanctions are removed and if they ask about the JCPOA you respond by saying Americans killed it and EU couldn't do anything that would have made it worthwhile to say in and you show evidence that your activities started a few months after the U.S. left the JCPOA and you went to weapons grade Uranium only after you left the NPT with detailed documented prof!

 

[Aramagedon]

we just need several cascade deep underground in an unknown location with the aim of building dozen or so nukes

Spot on.

If an NPT (thanks to Shah) country has such capabilty it doesn’t shout that behind the loudspeakers. If your enemy know that secretly that is enough.

For years Zionists have jumped up and down for Iran’s peaceful nuclear program. Most of them can’t sleep over nights. Is it just Iran’s peaceful program that they are so worried for that?!

No that is something else. Iran has pushed their buttons where they burn.

PS: don’t wonder if a reformist quote my post and say “No we never think about nukes, We don’t have nukes etc... “

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Such a disgusting act. I saw the clip of the terrorists. They were taking name of Allah swt while behaving like janwaar or animals. I don't understand how you can take the name of Allah swt and then turn around to murder innocent people. They must be severely brainwashed because they just bought themselves a permanent place in hell.

 

[Kastor]

Such a disgusting act. I saw the clip of the terrorists. They were taking name of Allah swt while behaving like janwaar or animals. I don't understand how you can take the name of Allah swt and then turn around to murder innocent people. They must be severely brainwashed because they just bought themselves a permanent place in hell.

SA and UAE......2 of the main reason why we have Muslim against Muslim violence in the world, now add Egypt and you have the reason why the West always has this region in a stranglehold.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

SA and UAE......2 of the main reason why we have Muslim against Muslim violence in the world, now add Egypt and you have the reason why the West always has this region in a stranglehold.

For Pakistanis, the main trouble makers in the region are UAE and Iran. Saudis used to make trouble by funding militant groups that they were unaware of, but after our military let them know they have stopped.

In regards to Iran, the country supports India and has let them in Chabahar port. An Indian spy was caught with Iranian documents that was fueling the fire over the border into neighboring Pakistani Baluchistan province. These Indians have been paying thugs and mercenaries to kill shia populations such as the Hazara and anyone else loyal to Pakistan. To us, this is considered a terrorist act, whether knowingly or unknowingly, because India is a kaafir nation that hates Muslims and also commits crimes against their own Muslim population.

Regarding UAE, they are the most arrogant people on earth. If Pakistan does not obey their commands, they try to blackmail us in text book Arab fascistic zeal.

I just wanted to express my views to you and other Iranians. My intention was not to get political or religious. I don't want to hijack this thread with politics, because it was a terroristic act, and I support Iran in taking down the backers of such a horrific attack.


Salaam

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

For Pakistanis, the main trouble makers in the region are UAE and Iran. Saudis used to make trouble by funding militant groups that they were unaware of, but after our military let them know they have stopped.

In regards to Iran, the country supports India and has let them in Chabahar port. An Indian spy was caught with Iranian documents that was fueling the fire over the border into neighboring Pakistani Baluchistan province. These Indians have been paying thugs and mercenaries to kill shia populations such as the Hazara and anyone else loyal to Pakistan. To us, this is considered a terrorist act, whether knowingly or unknowingly, because India is a kaafir nation that hates Muslims and also commits crimes against their own Muslim population.

Regarding UAE, they are the most arrogant people on earth. If Pakistan does not obey their commands, they try to blackmail us in text book Arab fascistic zeal.

I just wanted to express my views to you and other Iranians. My intention was not to get political or religious. I don't want to hijack this thread with politics, because it was a terroristic act, and I support Iran in taking down the backers of such a horrific attack.


Salaam

wa alaikum assalam. I agree 100%. Time is now ready for Pakistan, Iran, and Turkey to stand on one platform. Our survival depends on it. Trump has made it clear that these three countries are the number one targets in his sights. We are the guardians of the Muslim world, and its largest military powers. Our strength can dissuade further adventurism in our region.

 

[Kastor]

For Pakistanis, the main trouble makers in the region are UAE and Iran. Saudis used to make trouble by funding militant groups that they were unaware of, but after our military let them know they have stopped.

In regards to Iran, the country supports India and has let them in Chabahar port. An Indian spy was caught with Iranian documents that was fueling the fire over the border into neighboring Pakistani Baluchistan province. These Indians have been paying thugs and mercenaries to kill shia populations such as the Hazara and anyone else loyal to Pakistan. To us, this is considered a terrorist act, whether knowingly or unknowingly, because India is a kaafir nation that hates Muslims and also commits crimes against their own Muslim population.

Regarding UAE, they are the most arrogant people on earth. If Pakistan does not obey their commands, they try to blackmail us in text book Arab fascistic zeal.

I just wanted to express my views to you and other Iranians. My intention was not to get political or religious. I don't want to hijack this thread with politics, because it was a terroristic act, and I support Iran in taking down the backers of such a horrific attack.


Salaam

Well, I'm sorry but you're wrong, our adversaries keep repeating lies hoping to make them stick. The truth is Iran helped repel foreign invaders in Iraq. Iran fought ISIS. Iran helped Lebanon after the brutal bombing campaign by Israel. Iran helped and supported Qatar after their Arab neighbors stabbed them in the back. Iran has in a measurable way broken or otherwise damage the western hegamony of the M.E. Meanwhile, SA and UAE have created and funded ISIS to expressly kill fellow Muslims. They conspired with the west to bring down the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt to isolate Iran and destroy our economy. They're waging an obscene war against civilians in Yemen. They have brutally quelled a majority uprising in Bahrain. Iran on the other hand has funded Hezbollah the only force to give the Israelis a bloody good beating. Iran has helped and funded Hamas....both of these two entities are branded terror organizations while in actuality they are a major political forces in their respective countries. I'm getting tired of hearing Iran is the bad guy....we've done nothing but been on the side of right vs. corruption and terror. Iran has been on the side of Middle Eastern nationalism while all the other nations in the region are busy selling their support to the highest bidder.....SA and UAE leaderships are disgusting and traitors to our whole region....do not sully Iran by putting us in the same category.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Well, I'm sorry but you're wrong, our adversaries keep repeating lies hoping to make them stick. The truth is Iran helped repel foreign invaders in Iraq. Iran fought ISIS. Iran helped Lebanon after the brutal bombing campaign by Israel. Iran helped and supported Qatar after their Arab neighbors stabbed them in the back. Iran has in a measurable way broken or otherwise damage the western hegamony of the M.E. Meanwhile, SA and UAE have created and funded ISIS, to expressly kill fellow Muslims. They conspired with the west to bring down the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt to isolate Iran and destroy our economy. They're waging an obscene war against civilians in Yemen. They have brutally quelled a majority uprising in Bahrain. Iran on the other hand has funded Hezbollah the only force to give the Israelis a bloody good beating. Iran has helped and funded Hamas....both of these two entities are branded terror organizations while in actuality they are a major political forces in their respective countries. I'm getting tired of hearing Iran is the bad guy....we've done nothing but been on the side of right vs. corruption and terror. Iran has been on the side of Middle Eastern nationalism while all the other nations in the region are busy selling their support to the highest bidder.....SA and UAE leaderships are disgusting and traitors to our whole region....do not sully Iran by putting us in the same category.

Kulbushan Yadav should not have happened, neither should Chahbahar be given to India. This is a direct threat to Pakistan's sovereignty. However, mistakes did happen from Pakistan's side also with IP pipeline delays.

Besides that, everything you said is correct. This is why Iran, Turkey, and Pakistan should coordinate our foreign policies in light of the changing geopolitical tilt of our region with US, Israel, and India being on the same side.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Well, I'm sorry but you're wrong, our adversaries keep repeating lies hoping to make them stick. The truth is Iran helped repel foreign invaders in Iraq. Iran fought ISIS. Iran helped Lebanon after the brutal bombing campaign by Israel. Iran helped and supported Qatar after their Arab neighbors stabbed them in the back. Iran has in a measurable way broken or otherwise damage the western hegamony of the M.E. Meanwhile, SA and UAE have created and funded ISIS to expressly kill fellow Muslims. They conspired with the west to bring down the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt to isolate Iran and destroy our economy. They're waging an obscene war against civilians in Yemen. They have brutally quelled a majority uprising in Bahrain. Iran on the other hand has funded Hezbollah the only force to give the Israelis a bloody good beating. Iran has helped and funded Hamas....both of these two entities are branded terror organizations while in actuality they are a major political forces in their respective countries. I'm getting tired of hearing Iran is the bad guy....we've done nothing but been on the side of right vs. corruption and terror. Iran has been on the side of Middle Eastern nationalism while all the other nations in the region are busy selling their support to the highest bidder.....SA and UAE leaderships are disgusting and traitors to our whole region....do not sully Iran by putting us in the same category.

You are only speaking of the politics of middle east, but not of central asia/south asia. Iranian people in general are more arabic/turkish than Asiatic, unlike Afghanistan or Pakistan, so I understand your concerns there. Most of your major cities are on western border with Iraq, where as most of the Pakistani big cities are on eastern border with India, and Afghanistan is just up north with only Kabul.

I am trying to explain to you that Iran is no friend of Pakistan. Your government helps Indian agencies in killing Pakistanis. But we still do not consider common Iranian or as we say Irani as a bad person. If you say Saudi Arabia is bad then Iran is equally as bad for us. We try to ignore the politics, but thanks to your country sponsoring terrorist handlers from India, our country has suffered from countless terrorist attacks. Children, women, and the elderly, because your government hosts Indian terrorists.

This was one attack for you. And I am sure it hurt your heart to see children and women being attacked. Your nation was complicit in hosting Indian handlers that hired mercenaries in neighboring regions of Pakistan to shoot up an entire school.

Here is another of Shia Pakistanis in Masjid being attacked by terrorists funded by Indians from Chabahar.

Your government is complicit in these acts of barbarism by supporting Indian intelligence officials and allowing them to operate from your soil into Pakistan.

We will not forget, nor will we forgive.

But at the same time, we feel the pain of common Iranian people as we have felt this pain hazaar times.