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NDTV.com: Candid Zardari accepts J&K militants are terrorists

Candid Zardari accepts J&K militants are terrorists

Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has admitted that India is not a threat to his country and described the militants operating in Jammu and Kashmir as terrorists, a statement made perhaps for the first time by a top Pakistani leader.

"India has never been a threat to Pakistan. I, for one, and our democratic government is not scared of Indian influence abroad," Zardari told Wall Street Journal in an interview.

He spoke of the militant groups operating in Kashmir as "terrorists", the paper said, noting that former Pakistan president Pervez Musharraf would more likely have called them "freedom fighters".

Replying to a question, Zardari said he had no objection to the India-US nuclear cooperation pact so long as Pakistan is treated "at par".

"Why would we begrudge the largest democracy in the world getting friendly with one of the oldest democracy?" he said.

Asked whether he would consider a free-trade agreement with India, the paper said he responded with a "string of welcome, perhaps even historic, surprises."

While seeking better ties with New Delhi, he noted, "There is no other economic survival for nations like us. We have to trade with our neighbours first."

About Pakistan's economic crisis, the central bank has about two months' worth of foreign currency reserves left to pay for the country's imports of oil and food, Zardari said he looks to the world to "give me $100 billion."

The paper says he imagines Pakistani cement factories being constructed to provide for India's huge infrastructure needs, Pakistani textile mills meeting Indian demand for blue jeans, Pakistani ports being used to relieve the congestion at Indian ones.

Against the backdrop of the US-Pakistan row over the cross-border raids in the restive tribal belt by coalition forces from Afghanistan, Zardari said, "I am not going to fall for this position that it's an unpopular thing to be an American friend. I am an American friend."

About the Pakistani security forces firing on the US aircraft, he said it was merely an incident, "and while incidents do happen, they are not important."

However, he admitted that the US is carrying out Predator missile strikes on the Pakistani soil with his government's consent, the paper claimed.

"We have an understanding, in the sense that we're going after an enemy together," he said.

Zardari also acknowledged the problem that had bedeviled past efforts at US-Pakistani cooperation, particularly in intelligence sharing: the widely held suspicion that Pakistani intelligence services continue to cooperate with, and even arm, the Taliban.

"You know, you keep an uglier alternative around so that you may not be asked to leave," he said, in reference to allegations that while Musharraf was fighting Islamic radicals with one hand, he was protecting them with the other.

Zardari refused to go into further detail other than to say he "solved the problem"; the head of Pakistani intelligence agency ISI Nadeem Taj was replaced earlier this week by Ahmad Shuja Pasha.

"We want to be able to share (US) intelligence," adding, "We need helicopters, we need night goggles, we need equipment of that sort."

He stressed the need for precision and finesse in fighting Islamic militants, rather than large-scale military force. "My eventual concept is that we should be taking them on as they are, as criminals."

Of Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, he said, "The minute I make anybody my enemy, he becomes as big as I am."
 
NDTV didn't quote him as saying Kashmir FF are terrorists.

Any QUOTE with a link?
 
It was indeed obvious. What other kind would indulge in the ethnic cleansing of the native Kashmiri Pundits from the valley.

They are just terrorists. Nothing more, nothing less.

No negotiations are possible with them, just crush with brute force.
 
It was indeed obvious. What other kind would indulge in the ethnic cleansing of the native Kashmiri Pundits from the valley.

They are just terrorists. Nothing more, nothing less.

No negotiations are possible with them, just crush with brute force.
Kashmir has a right to self-determination as signed by India.

They are fighting for their rights. Indian Army has been the biggest contributing factor in the rape, genocide and arson of Kashmiris.
 
It was indeed obvious. What other kind would indulge in the ethnic cleansing of the native Kashmiri Pundits from the valley.

They are just terrorists. Nothing more, nothing less.

No negotiations are possible with them, just crush with brute force.

:lol::lol: yeh yeh ahh my dear there had been reports that say that Indian Army many times had attacked own Pundits and Hindu population just to malign the Kashmiri Muslims.

i know someone who is in your own forces and he is serving in Kashmir. He says he is an animal in army just like his other collegues.
 
Perhaps those attacking and killing innocents are terrorists, the millions out protesting and the leaders leading them are not.

Pakistan's support for the latter should not end, and as of now no reference to that end has been made.
 
Kashmir has a right to self-determination as signed by India.

They are fighting for their rights. Indian Army has been the biggest contributing factor in the rape, genocide and arson of Kashmiris.

So UN has credibility for this issue!

When the UN secretary general accused Pakistan of helping Taliban, everyone is bashing the UN, but for this issue UN is the moral judge?

Anyone here knows of a single other UN resolution? One single resolution at all!

No, but for the Kashmir issue, the UN rhetoric goes on. The resolutions are dead meat. No one cares for them.

Kashmir is Indian. Be satisfied with what you have. Craving other's land won't take you anywhere.

The Durand line is a real issue I believe. The agreement has expired for that. Why don't you guys negotiate afresh with Afghans? That line was also created by the same darned British but that is so dear to you! You want to fence it when your own population doesn't want it.
 
So UN has credibility for this issue!

When the UN secretary general accused Pakistan of helping Taliban, everyone is bashing the UN, but for this issue UN is the moral judge?

Anyone here knows of a single other UN resolution? One single resolution at all!

No, but for the Kashmir issue, the UN rhetoric goes on. The resolutions are dead meat. No one cares for them.

Kashmir is Indian. Be satisfied with what you have. Craving other's land won't take you anywhere.

The Durand line is a real issue I believe. The agreement has expired for that. Why don't you guys negotiate afresh with Afghans? That line was also created by the same darned British but that is so dear to you! You want to fence it when your own population doesn't want it.

Not 'everyone' has bashed the UN, and Ban Ki's comments were not 'UN resolutions'.

The right of plebiscite in included in both the Instrument of accession and validated by the UNSC resolutions, therefore India has no legal or moral right to Kashmir, and therefore it is a valid territorial dispute to be resolved.

What hogwash and lies you spew on the Durand agreement! Where in the agreement is there an expiration date? Do show us.

Even on the question of the 'peoples will', the residents of the NWFP overwhelmingly chose Pakistan in a referendum, as did the tribes of FATA and as did teh people of Baluchistan through a representative Jirga.

Nice try deflecting from India's illegal and immoral actions in Kashmir. No sir your country is the only one illegally occupying a people and territory in South Asia right now.
 
Kashmir has a right to self-determination as signed by India.

They are fighting for their rights. Indian Army has been the biggest contributing factor in the rape, genocide and arson of Kashmiris.

Times have changed self determination was with pre-conditions which were never fulfilled, now its become outdated.
 
"India has never been a threat to Pakistan. I, for one, and our democratic government is not scared of Indian influence abroad,"

Does he really mean this or was he just making himself portrayed as a strong leader?.
 
So UN has credibility for this issue!

When the UN secretary general accused Pakistan of helping Taliban, everyone is bashing the UN, but for this issue UN is the moral judge?

Anyone here knows of a single other UN resolution? One single resolution at all!

No, but for the Kashmir issue, the UN rhetoric goes on. The resolutions are dead meat. No one cares for them.

Kashmir is Indian. Be satisfied with what you have. Craving other's land won't take you anywhere.

The Durand line is a real issue I believe. The agreement has expired for that. Why don't you guys negotiate afresh with Afghans? That line was also created by the same darned British but that is so dear to you! You want to fence it when your own population doesn't want it.

Vinod what is the real issue for Pakistan, no disrespect but i dont think we need to ask that from India. Also Zadari can never ever say something like that and if indeed he has said then he himself has committed a political suecide. Also Pakistan is a terrorist country or whatever you want to call it, Kashmir still remains a disputed territory. There hasnt been a declared decision for the status quo and until then Pakistan one way or the other is committed to it until the issue gets solved whatever outcome there maybe.
 
Not 'everyone' has bashed the UN, and Ban Ki's comments were not 'UN resolutions'.

The right of plebiscite in included in both the Instrument of accession and validated by the UNSC resolutions, therefore India has no legal or moral right to Kashmir, and therefore it is a valid territorial dispute to be resolved.

What hogwash and lies you spew on the Durand agreement! Where in the agreement is there an expiration date? Do show us.

Even on the question of the 'peoples will', the residents of the NWFP overwhelmingly chose Pakistan in a referendum, as did the tribes of FATA and as did teh people of Baluchistan through a representative Jirga.

Nice try deflecting from India's illegal and immoral actions in Kashmir. No sir your country is the only one illegally occupying a people and territory in South Asia right now.

Kashmir is integral part of India by way of instrument of accession. Its the part which not under control is disputed.

Right of plebiscite is outdated as mentioned earlier.

Take any position or Kargils the situation on the ground will never changes.
 
Not 'everyone' has bashed the UN, and Ban Ki's comments were not 'UN resolutions'.

The right of plebiscite in included in both the Instrument of accession and validated by the UNSC resolutions, therefore India has no legal or moral right to Kashmir, and therefore it is a valid territorial dispute to be resolved.

What hogwash and lies you spew on the Durand agreement! Where in the agreement is there an expiration date? Do show us.

Even on the question of the 'peoples will', the residents of the NWFP overwhelmingly chose Pakistan in a referendum, as did the tribes of FATA and as did teh people of Baluchistan through a representative Jirga.

Nice try deflecting from India's illegal and immoral actions in Kashmir. No sir your country is the only one illegally occupying a people and territory in South Asia right now.

Getting technical, are we?

You may want to check the other thread where it is the UN that is being bashed not just Mr. Moon.

Anyway, the other things being subjective, let's come to the Durand line part.

You really don't know of the 99 year agreement between the Afghan king and the British which expired some time back? I am confused.

It should be a simple google search. Though I believe you when you say you were not aware.

I can dig it for you if you really want that. And again, I am not casting aspersions on the integrity of your country. Just making a counter point.
 
Kashmir is integral part of India by way of instrument of accession. Its the part which not under control is disputed.

Right of plebiscite is outdated as mentioned earlier.

Take any position or Kargils the situation on the ground will never changes.

The instrument of accession was conditional to a plebiscite which was never carried out. The condition of plebiscite was validated by the UNSC resolutions, otherwise the UN would have given India clear legal rights to the territory.

Since the conditions of the IoA and UNSC resolutions were never fulfilled, it is an illegal and immoral occupation.
 
:lol::lol: yeh yeh ahh my dear there had been reports that say that Indian Army many times had attacked own Pundits and Hindu population just to malign the Kashmiri Muslims.

i know someone who is in your own forces and he is serving in Kashmir. He says he is an animal in army just like his other collegues.

There have been reports (I shared them earlier) that the mosque loudspeakers in Kashmir were used to threaten the Kashmiri Pundits to leave, leaving their women folk behind.

But of course, you would indulge in your usual denial. Its all Non-Muslim conspiracy, though you don't mind using those sources all the time when it suits you.
 
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