Canada wants troops deployed in Pakistan

[Tiki Tam Tam]

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Guarding Afghan border:


Canada wants troops deployed in Pakistan

OTTAWA: Defence Minister Gordon O’Connor said Canadian soldiers could be deployed along the Pakistani side of the border with Afghanistan to help protect the forces from attacks, local media said on Saturday. He said Canadian soldiers should join local forces fighting Taliban inside Pakistan. O’Connor urged his Pakistani interlocutors to redouble efforts to prevent attacks on Canadians in southern Afghanistan, The Globe and Mail newspaper reported. “Among other things, I suggested that some Pakistani officers be stationed with our troops in Kandahar and (that) Canadian troops be stationed on the Pakistan side,” O’Connor said in an interview with a Pakistani news agency, cited by The Globe and Mail and Radio Canada. “This will assist in information gathering and intelligence sharing on both sides of the border,” he added. Mr O’Connor gave no indication about the Pakistani reaction to his request. agencies
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\09\03\story_3-9-2006_pg1_8

Jana,

You had asked me what do I mean that something always happen when Abizaid arrives.

I hope this will justify my statement.

Please note:

along the Pakistani side of the border with Afghanistan

A most extraordinary statement/ demand.

In other words, meaning that Pakistan is lukewarm in ensuring that the AQ terrorists do not cross in Afghanistan or that Pakistan is serious about containing the menace.

 

[Sid]

A most wishful demand put forth to Pakistan. I do not see any foreign soldiers being given the greenlight to be deployed inside Pakistani territory in the near future. Pakistan isnt Lebanon.

 

[Neo]

O'Connor denies wanting Cdn. troops in Pakistan

Updated Sat. Sep. 2 2006
CTV.ca News Staff

Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor has denied suggesting Canadian troops should be stationed in Pakistan, claiming his comments were misunderstood.

"Media reports today have misreported comments I made while visiting with the government of Pakistan," said O'Connor in a press release issued Saturday.


"At no time did I advocate, suggest or imply I favoured stand-alone Canadian troop deployment in Pakistan."


O'Connor spoke with military officials in Pakistan during a trip to the region, and later summed up the meetings with a reporter from The Associated Press of Pakistan. During the interview, he allegedly said he wanted Canadian soldiers in the country.


"Among other things, I suggested that some Pakistan officers be stationed with our troops in Kandahar and Canadian troops be stationed on the Pakistan side," the Globe and Mail quoted him as saying. "This will assist in information gathering and intelligence sharing on both sides of the border."


But O'Connor said the quote was taken out of context and he did not condone the deployment of troops in Pakistan.


"What I said was that Canada needs to engage with Pakistan as part of our security and reconstruction mission in Afghanistan," said O'Connor.


"This means greater co-ordination between Canadian troops in Kandahar and Pakistani troops in Western Pakistan.


"This would not involve the stationing of stand alone Canadian military units in Western Pakistan, but rather would involve one or two Canadian liaison officers working within Pakistani military headquarters in Pakistan."


According to the Globe report, Pakistan's Islamic political parties have strongly resisted the presence of U.S. soldiers. But a NATO source told the newspaper that an agreement between the two countries allows U.S. forces to cross into Pakistan to pursue insurgents.


Meanwhile, militants supporting the Taliban signed an agreement with Pakistan's government on Saturday, to promote "permanent peace" in the northwestern tribal region. The area is close to the Afghan border.


Officials are expected to announce the agreement next week. According to The Associated Press, the plan forbids militants from attacking government officials or security forces.


In exchange, the government will stop operations against the militants, and "the Taliban have also agreed to distance themselves from foreign militants," an official told AP.


It's believed that Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and his second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahri, are hiding in the area.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...han_oconnor_060902/20060902?hub=Canada&s_name=

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Ah!

That clears the air.

A good game of hop scotch!

 

[EagleEyes]

Ah!

That clears the air.

A good game of hop scotch!

Its one of those articles. Damn, i am not sure how you find those.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

I am an avid follower of Pakistani news.

PDF thinks I am RAW.

You could think I am MATURED! (A more sinister organisation if you wish)

I found this article to be very odd and so I wondered if you guys have better news to give than this.

Neo has provided the good news for Pakistan. The Canadian chap is playing hop scotch now!

But I enjoy the way you have a "tail" on me.

Whenever I post a tail surfaces!

and then you appear!

(I read the Daily Times and Dawn very religiously)

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

The interesting part is that I learn that Gordon O'Connor is an ex Brigadier of the Canadian Armed Forces! :shock:

 

[Awesome]

It's not happening, till they don't allow Pakistani soldiers swarming those border Indian consulates.

 

[antiobl]

I think it is time we Pakistanis took care of our own neighborhood. Our proxy groups are not loyal to us anymore. They have found higher calling form the likes of Osama and zawahiri.

So out with the jihadis and in with our regular soldiers.

In Afghanistan, Karazai can't take care of his areas. Heck he doesn't want to get out of his Kabuli Kassel. So let him drink Gahawa and listen to ghazals.

For us now, the time is to get our 70K soldiers out of FATA and into Eastern Afghanistan. Let's bring peace to the war-ravaged areas that are closer to our border.

I realize some of the posters will have difficulty swallowing this proposal. They may say, oh those Talibans are 10 foot tall, and made up of Steel and not flesh. Well our soldiers are taller and stronger than any in the world. We can not let cancer of anarchy to spread in our region.

You may ask why. Well the answer is simple. Anarchy, bhook nang, and lawlessness knows no bounds. First it will burn Afghanistan and then other countries including ours.

It is time we used our might in Afghanistan to bring long-awaited peace in the region. It is a shame that Canadians soldiers can go 1000's of miles from their home to protect "their" interests. And we are so lazy and buhddu intellectually that we can't go 40 miles form our border. Shameful isn't it?

Let those Canadians go back to Toronto, so they can guard their border with USA. And let's take care of Afghanistan. We may need help with arms and ammo, but we have plenty of brave soldiers to make sure that all areas in our region are peaceful.

 

[Awesome]

The current Afghani government is anti-Pakistan why should we go and help them? In response our pity holds us back from being anti-Afghani in return since everyone knows it, Karzai doesn't represent the majority.

If we are to commit troops to Afghanistan we should be taking out groups attacking Pakistan, and let the Americans/Canadians who pushed and shoved their way into Afghanistan deal with the other militant groups. Pak should attack those forces that supply militant groups that attack Pak.

 

[antiobl]

The current Afghani government is anti-Pakistan why should we go and help them? ...

Good point.

......If we are to commit troops to Afghanistan we should be taking out groups attacking Pakistan, and let the Americans/Canadians who pushed and shoved their way into Afghanistan deal with the other militant groups. ...

Unfortunately Talibanic sympathizers have turned Anti-Pakistan. These pathetic groups have killed more Pak soldiers than anyone else in the region.

Thus for the moment, goups attacking Canadians are the same who kill Pakistani soldiers.

The second point: Karazai is going to be gone one of these days. Afghanistan's state institution is really unstable and weak. If we let Afghanistan rot and suffer, we'll suffer as well. It is just natural that a fire in your neighbor's house will eventually get to your house as well. So the best thing is to get your buckets, banks, and baboos and help out Afghanis in Afghanistan. Build roads (at Pak or US expense), and open up schools.

If Pakistanis are running brand new shiny schools in FATA and Afghanistan, then our textbooks will used to teach the kids over there. In 25-50 years, the whole area will be pro-Pakistan.

So helping Afghanis right now may help Karazai. But in the long run, it will help Pakistan.

 

[sigatoka]

1. I think it is time we Pakistanis took care of our own neighborhood.

2. For us now, the time is to get our 70K soldiers out of FATA and into Eastern Afghanistan. Let's bring peace to the war-ravaged areas that are closer to our border.

3. I realize some of the posters will have difficulty swallowing this proposal. They may say, oh those Talibans are 10 foot tall, and made up of Steel and not flesh. Well our soldiers are taller and stronger than any in the world. We can not let cancer of anarchy to spread in our region.

3. You may ask why. Well the answer is simple. Anarchy, bhook nang, and lawlessness knows no bounds. First it will burn Afghanistan and then other countries including ours.

4. It is time we used our might in Afghanistan to bring long-awaited peace in the region. It is a shame that Canadians soldiers can go 1000's of miles from their home to protect "their" interests. And we are so lazy and buhddu intellectually that we can't go 40 miles form our border. Shameful isn't it?

1. Pak. duty is to take care of itself.

2. First peace has to be brought to FATA and Baluchistan.

3. The Domino theory told us that with the fall of Vietnam all of Asia would turn communist, nothing of the sort happened.

4. If the Canandians are stupid enough to go into the trap that Soviet Union fell into, its their choice. A trap is a trap, whether 40 miles or 1000's miles.

p.s. You **** fool have you learnt nothing from Iraq and Lebanon? Pak. should bid its time, when the West leaves with their troops then it can again regain influence with proxies. There is no need to send thousands of troops to a needless death in the hills of Afghanistan for liitle gain.

 

[sigatoka]

1. Unfortunately Talibanic sympathizers have turned Anti-Pakistan. These pathetic groups have killed more Pak soldiers than anyone else in the region.

2. Thus for the moment, goups attacking Canadians are the same who kill Pakistani soldiers.

3. Build roads (at Pak or US expense), and open up schools.

4. So helping Afghanis right now may help Karazai. But in the long run, it will help Pakistan.

1. That will change when the U.S. and west moves out troops from Afghanistan. These Taliban sympathizers will no longer attack Pak. troops when the Western troops move out.

2. The killers of soldiers may be same, but the interests of Canada and Pak. dont align. Those troops are fly by's, they will be gone in a few years and then Pak. will be left alone.

3. Why not build roads in Pak. and open schools in Pak? Its not as if Pak. has Japan or Saudi quality of infrastructure.

4. Helping Pak. by building roads, shcools and hospitals is the only sure thing for the advancement of the nation.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

The West shall leave Afghanistan.

That is an excellent wish.

Why then did the West come into Afghanistan in the first place?

Thought about that?

 

[sigatoka]

The West shall leave Afghanistan.

That is an excellent wish.

Why then did the West come into Afghanistan in the first place?

Thought about that?

Excellent question Sir, it should be asked of the Soviet leadership which ordered the invasion of Afghan. and the U.S. admin that ordered the same of Vietnam.