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Three time higher cost than expected total cost, and four time higher than initial prices of the original tag for just few pregnant heavy F-35s.....


Ottawa officially scraps F-35 purchase as audit pegs F-35 costs at $45-billion
December 12, 2012

Stephen Harper’s Conservatives are officially recanting their 2 1/2-year-old decision to buy the cutting-edge F-35 fighter plane – but the federal government is still resisting calls to hold an open competition to pick Canada’s next jet purchase.

The Harper government on Wednesday officially announced it was backing off a sole-source plan to buy 65 F-35 Lightning jets as a replacement for Canada’s aging CF-18 Hornets. It was a rare U-turn for an administration that only infrequently acknowledges it was wrong – but one the Tories felt was necessary to repair their fiscal stewardship credentials.

“No decision has been taken on a replacement for the CF-18,” a senior government official told reporters in a not-for-attribution media briefing set up by the Tories so that top civil servants on the file could speak plainly about Ottawa’s new jet purchase policy.

The Conservatives have been dogged for months by a damning auditor general’s report last spring that said they selected the F-35 without due regard for price and availability. Back in July, 2010, the Tories announced to great fanfare they would forgo an open competition and would buy the Lockheed warplane because it was the only plane that would serve Canada’s needs. They defended the decision in the 2011 election and often excoriated critics who suggested they had made a mistake.

On Wednesday, Ottawa made a great show of backing away from that decision – while unveiling a full lifetime cost estimate for the Lockheed Martin plane that is five times greater than what the Tories originally advertised it would cost.

The “cradle-to-grave” bill to taxpayers for buying and operating the controversial F-35 warplane will exceed $600-million per jet – or $45-billion in total, the government announced Wednesday. The Tories originally sold the aircraft as a $9-billion purchase.

The $45-billion lifetime estimate may ultimately prove to be too low if the cash-strapped U.S. government cuts its own order for the F-35 – a move that would increase the average price.

Defence Minister Peter MacKay and Public Works Minister Rona Ambrose went to great effort Wednesday to distance themselves from the July, 2010, purchase announcement, an event where Mr. MacKay posed for photos in a dummy version of the fighter. “We are pressing reset on this acquisition in order to ensure a balance between military needs and taxpayer interests,” Mr. MacKay told reporters. “Let me be clear: The government of Canada will not proceed with a decision to replace the CF-18 fighter aircraft until all steps … are completed.”

Ottawa formally announced Wednesday it’s now shopping around to see if alternatives to the F-35 better meet its needs as a replacement for the aging CF-18 Hornets. The government has acknowledged, however, that it could again decide the F-35 is best for the job. “We’re undertaking a full-options analysis and the F-35 is obviously one of those options,” Ms. Ambrose told reporters.

Still, the government is holding off calling for open bids to build the plane – as opposition parties are demanding – saying they’ll wait for an options analysis led by the Royal Canadian Air Force first.

The new $45-billion F-35 price tag is based on the most expansive definition of costs over a 30-year lifetime for each jet, including fuel as well as upgrades and maintenance. The bill includes 65 planes and as many as 11 spares – a cost that works out to more than $600-million per plane.

The new forecast, which was scrutinized by consulting firm KPMG, looks at costs incurred over a 42-year-period. Less than 20 per cent of the costs are for buying the initial 65 planes. The other 80 per cent are for keeping this fleet operating.

The Canadian government is still assuming the United States will buy a large order of the jets. In one of the documents Ottawa released Wednesday, it said it’s expecting the U.S. and partners will purchase 3,100 jets – a number that’s expected to fall as Washington, heavily in debt, trims its order.

The government said the overall price tag for Canada will rise by $500-million for every reduction of 400 aircraft that are cut from international orders. That’s because there would be fewer economies of scale to be derived from mass production.

Separately, the Harper government trimmed its estimates for the maximum industrial benefits Canadian companies might win for supplying the F-35 production. This country’s firms are only able to compete for work related to the warplane because Canada joined a consortium of countries planning on buying the jets.

The government said now it believes the maximum potential industrial benefits from F-35 supply work would be $9.8-billion – instead of the $12-billion Ottawa previously touted. So far Canadian companies have secured $438-million in work.

Also, the Harper government has redrawn the list of independent monitors who will oversee the hunt for alternatives to the F-35 Lightning fighter after retired general Charles Bouchard bowed out. He is replaced by former senior civil servant James Mitchell of consulting group Sussex Circle. The others remain the same, including ex-Communications Security Establishment chief Keith Coulter, a former fighter pilot; former federal comptroller-general Rod Monette, who also served as a senior bureaucrat in National Defence; and University of Ottawa professor Philippe Lagassé, an outspoken critic of the jet procurement.

The Harper government is going shopping for alternatives to the controversial F-35 in the most significant demonstration yet that it is prepared to walk away from its first choice for a new warplane.

To demonstrate that they are restarting the procurement process from scratch, Canadian officials will collect information from other plane manufacturers, including U.S.-based Boeing, maker of the Super-Hornet, and the consortium behind the Eurofighter Typhoon. They may also contact Sweden’s Saab, manufacturer of the Gripen, and France’s Dassault, maker of the Rafale.

The ballooning lifetime cost of the F-35 fighter and Ottawa’s decision to shop around for alternatives are creating panic among Canadian companies betting on supply contracts for the Lockheed Martin plane, sources have said.

The government aims to complete this reappraisal of what the fighter aircraft market can offer Canada as expeditiously as possible in 2013.

Government officials said Wednesday that Ottawa has not decided whether to call for competitive bids to supply a plane and will await the results of the options analysis.

Canada has signed no contract to buy F-35s, and while it has signalled to Lockheed Martin, the manufacturer, that it wants 65, it has no obligation to buy them.

It did sign a memorandum of understanding in 2006 that set the terms by which a country would buy the aircraft and also enabled domestic companies to compete for supply contracts for the plane.


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F-35 deal scrapped as Conservative government begins new search for fighter jet

OTTAWA—The federal Conservative government has formally pushed “reset” on its search for a new fighter jet after revealing that the Lockheed Martin F-35s they had picked would cost more than $600 million apiece to own and operate over their lifespan.

Battered by opposition criticism, sticker shock and with the sharp critique of the auditor general ringing in their ears, Conservative cabinet ministers confirmed Wednesday that they were starting fresh in their search for a jet to replace aging CF-18 Hornets.

“We have hit the reset button and are taking the time to do a complete assessment of all available aircraft,” Public Works Minister Rona Ambrose told reporters.

The F-35 Lightning II — the choice more than two years ago — is in the running but its purchase is far from certain, especially given the rising costs for the stealth fighter.

While the government has vowed to spend no more than $9 billion to buy the jets, a cost analysis reveals that Ottawa has set aside just $602 million in reserve funds to cover unexpected price hikes. That’s far short of the recommended contingency fund of $2.5 billion, the analysis by the accounting firm KPMG says.

Any increases in cost would force Ottawa to cut its jet order to stay within budget, leaving the Department of National Defence (DND) short of fighters.

“DND has advised that their risk mitigation strategy ... is to reduce the number of aircraft acquired,” the analysis states. “This could reduce the initial fleet to as low as 55 aircraft, which is below DND’s current stated requirements.”

On Wednesday, officials released an audit report showing that the “cradle-to-grave” costs of owning and operating a fleet of 65 F-35s would total $44.8 billion, a stunning price tag and far higher than any cost released so far.

Defence Minister Peter MacKay sought to put the eye-popping number in context, noting that it includes the cost of salaries and fuel, which in the past have not been lumped in with the price tag of new military gear.

MacKay said the government is trying to ensure a “balance between military needs and taxpayer interests.”

Still, Ambrose cautioned that whatever jet is picked, it won’t be cheap. “It’s clear that any aircraft the government chooses will come with a significant price tag,” she said.

But even as they unveiled the new costing, federal officials also formally launched a new process to buy fighter jets, a dramatic U-turn from their July 2010 announcement that the F-35 was the best and only option.

In fact it was Ambrose and MacKay who appeared together at an elaborately staged news conference in Ottawa that featured a full-sized mock-up of an F-35 alongside a CF-18 flown in for the event. At the time, MacKay declared the F-35 was the only fighter that fit the air force’s needs.

On Wednesday, the two ministers were noticeably more subdued as they appeared before reporters to confirm they were starting over, a seeming indictment of their initial choice of the F-35.

Ambrose said the new search will be marked by “due diligence, oversight and transparency.”

In a bid to quell criticism, officials will take a page from their successful process in 2011 to issue $33 billion in shipbuilding contracts — a decision that stirred little criticism or controversy.

That process will involve consulting with the potential bidders, a independent third-party review and a high-level steering group within government.

As well, recognizing the new search could delay the acquisition of new fighters, officials also announced they were doing analysis to update the life expectancy of the CF-18 fleet, bought starting in 1982, and determine what needs to be done to keep the jets safely in the air.

The day was a dramatic climb-down for the Conservatives who had ridiculed critics that expressed concerns about the choice and cost of the F-35, including opposition MPs and the parliamentary budget officer.

Asked whether he regretted his previous sharp language at critics, MacKay was unrepentant, saying he was simply being “passionate” about getting the military the equipment it needs.

But opposition MPs said the government has yet to commit to an open competition for the CF-18 replacement fighter.

“What we heard today is that the minimum price for this plane is three times higher than anything that this government has publicly disclosed to date. That’s tens of billions of dollars higher,” said NDP MP Matthew Kellway.

F-35s would cost $45.8 billion; feds hit ‘reset button’ | CTV News

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Three time higher cost than expected total cost, and four time higher than initial prices of the original tag for just few pregnant heavy F-35s.....


Ottawa officially scraps F-35 purchase as audit pegs F-35 costs at $45-billion
December 12, 2012

Stephen Harper’s Conservatives are officially recanting their 2 1/2-year-old decision to buy the cutting-edge F-35 fighter plane – but the federal government is still resisting calls to hold an open competition to pick Canada’s next jet purchase.

The Harper government on Wednesday officially announced it was backing off a sole-source plan to buy 65 F-35 Lightning jets as a replacement for Canada’s aging CF-18 Hornets. It was a rare U-turn for an administration that only infrequently acknowledges it was wrong – but one the Tories felt was necessary to repair their fiscal stewardship credentials.

“No decision has been taken on a replacement for the CF-18,” a senior government official told reporters in a not-for-attribution media briefing set up by the Tories so that top civil servants on the file could speak plainly about Ottawa’s new jet purchase policy.

The Conservatives have been dogged for months by a damning auditor general’s report last spring that said they selected the F-35 without due regard for price and availability. Back in July, 2010, the Tories announced to great fanfare they would forgo an open competition and would buy the Lockheed warplane because it was the only plane that would serve Canada’s needs. They defended the decision in the 2011 election and often excoriated critics who suggested they had made a mistake.

On Wednesday, Ottawa made a great show of backing away from that decision – while unveiling a full lifetime cost estimate for the Lockheed Martin plane that is five times greater than what the Tories originally advertised it would cost.

The “cradle-to-grave” bill to taxpayers for buying and operating the controversial F-35 warplane will exceed $600-million per jet – or $45-billion in total, the government announced Wednesday. The Tories originally sold the aircraft as a $9-billion purchase.

The $45-billion lifetime estimate may ultimately prove to be too low if the cash-strapped U.S. government cuts its own order for the F-35 – a move that would increase the average price.

Defence Minister Peter MacKay and Public Works Minister Rona Ambrose went to great effort Wednesday to distance themselves from the July, 2010, purchase announcement, an event where Mr. MacKay posed for photos in a dummy version of the fighter. “We are pressing reset on this acquisition in order to ensure a balance between military needs and taxpayer interests,” Mr. MacKay told reporters. “Let me be clear: The government of Canada will not proceed with a decision to replace the CF-18 fighter aircraft until all steps … are completed.”

Ottawa formally announced Wednesday it’s now shopping around to see if alternatives to the F-35 better meet its needs as a replacement for the aging CF-18 Hornets. The government has acknowledged, however, that it could again decide the F-35 is best for the job. “We’re undertaking a full-options analysis and the F-35 is obviously one of those options,” Ms. Ambrose told reporters.

Still, the government is holding off calling for open bids to build the plane – as opposition parties are demanding – saying they’ll wait for an options analysis led by the Royal Canadian Air Force first.

The new $45-billion F-35 price tag is based on the most expansive definition of costs over a 30-year lifetime for each jet, including fuel as well as upgrades and maintenance. The bill includes 65 planes and as many as 11 spares – a cost that works out to more than $600-million per plane.

The new forecast, which was scrutinized by consulting firm KPMG, looks at costs incurred over a 42-year-period. Less than 20 per cent of the costs are for buying the initial 65 planes. The other 80 per cent are for keeping this fleet operating.

The Canadian government is still assuming the United States will buy a large order of the jets. In one of the documents Ottawa released Wednesday, it said it’s expecting the U.S. and partners will purchase 3,100 jets – a number that’s expected to fall as Washington, heavily in debt, trims its order.

The government said the overall price tag for Canada will rise by $500-million for every reduction of 400 aircraft that are cut from international orders. That’s because there would be fewer economies of scale to be derived from mass production.

Separately, the Harper government trimmed its estimates for the maximum industrial benefits Canadian companies might win for supplying the F-35 production. This country’s firms are only able to compete for work related to the warplane because Canada joined a consortium of countries planning on buying the jets.

The government said now it believes the maximum potential industrial benefits from F-35 supply work would be $9.8-billion – instead of the $12-billion Ottawa previously touted. So far Canadian companies have secured $438-million in work.

Also, the Harper government has redrawn the list of independent monitors who will oversee the hunt for alternatives to the F-35 Lightning fighter after retired general Charles Bouchard bowed out. He is replaced by former senior civil servant James Mitchell of consulting group Sussex Circle. The others remain the same, including ex-Communications Security Establishment chief Keith Coulter, a former fighter pilot; former federal comptroller-general Rod Monette, who also served as a senior bureaucrat in National Defence; and University of Ottawa professor Philippe Lagassé, an outspoken critic of the jet procurement.

The Harper government is going shopping for alternatives to the controversial F-35 in the most significant demonstration yet that it is prepared to walk away from its first choice for a new warplane.

To demonstrate that they are restarting the procurement process from scratch, Canadian officials will collect information from other plane manufacturers, including U.S.-based Boeing, maker of the Super-Hornet, and the consortium behind the Eurofighter Typhoon. They may also contact Sweden’s Saab, manufacturer of the Gripen, and France’s Dassault, maker of the Rafale.

The ballooning lifetime cost of the F-35 fighter and Ottawa’s decision to shop around for alternatives are creating panic among Canadian companies betting on supply contracts for the Lockheed Martin plane, sources have said.

The government aims to complete this reappraisal of what the fighter aircraft market can offer Canada as expeditiously as possible in 2013.

Government officials said Wednesday that Ottawa has not decided whether to call for competitive bids to supply a plane and will await the results of the options analysis.

Canada has signed no contract to buy F-35s, and while it has signalled to Lockheed Martin, the manufacturer, that it wants 65, it has no obligation to buy them.

It did sign a memorandum of understanding in 2006 that set the terms by which a country would buy the aircraft and also enabled domestic companies to compete for supply contracts for the plane.


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F-35 deal scrapped as Conservative government begins new search for fighter jet

OTTAWA—The federal Conservative government has formally pushed “reset” on its search for a new fighter jet after revealing that the Lockheed Martin F-35s they had picked would cost more than $600 million apiece to own and operate over their lifespan.

Battered by opposition criticism, sticker shock and with the sharp critique of the auditor general ringing in their ears, Conservative cabinet ministers confirmed Wednesday that they were starting fresh in their search for a jet to replace aging CF-18 Hornets.

“We have hit the reset button and are taking the time to do a complete assessment of all available aircraft,” Public Works Minister Rona Ambrose told reporters.

The F-35 Lightning II — the choice more than two years ago — is in the running but its purchase is far from certain, especially given the rising costs for the stealth fighter.

While the government has vowed to spend no more than $9 billion to buy the jets, a cost analysis reveals that Ottawa has set aside just $602 million in reserve funds to cover unexpected price hikes. That’s far short of the recommended contingency fund of $2.5 billion, the analysis by the accounting firm KPMG says.

Any increases in cost would force Ottawa to cut its jet order to stay within budget, leaving the Department of National Defence (DND) short of fighters.

“DND has advised that their risk mitigation strategy ... is to reduce the number of aircraft acquired,” the analysis states. “This could reduce the initial fleet to as low as 55 aircraft, which is below DND’s current stated requirements.”

On Wednesday, officials released an audit report showing that the “cradle-to-grave” costs of owning and operating a fleet of 65 F-35s would total $44.8 billion, a stunning price tag and far higher than any cost released so far.

Defence Minister Peter MacKay sought to put the eye-popping number in context, noting that it includes the cost of salaries and fuel, which in the past have not been lumped in with the price tag of new military gear.

MacKay said the government is trying to ensure a “balance between military needs and taxpayer interests.”

Still, Ambrose cautioned that whatever jet is picked, it won’t be cheap. “It’s clear that any aircraft the government chooses will come with a significant price tag,” she said.

But even as they unveiled the new costing, federal officials also formally launched a new process to buy fighter jets, a dramatic U-turn from their July 2010 announcement that the F-35 was the best and only option.

In fact it was Ambrose and MacKay who appeared together at an elaborately staged news conference in Ottawa that featured a full-sized mock-up of an F-35 alongside a CF-18 flown in for the event. At the time, MacKay declared the F-35 was the only fighter that fit the air force’s needs.

On Wednesday, the two ministers were noticeably more subdued as they appeared before reporters to confirm they were starting over, a seeming indictment of their initial choice of the F-35.

Ambrose said the new search will be marked by “due diligence, oversight and transparency.”

In a bid to quell criticism, officials will take a page from their successful process in 2011 to issue $33 billion in shipbuilding contracts — a decision that stirred little criticism or controversy.

That process will involve consulting with the potential bidders, a independent third-party review and a high-level steering group within government.

As well, recognizing the new search could delay the acquisition of new fighters, officials also announced they were doing analysis to update the life expectancy of the CF-18 fleet, bought starting in 1982, and determine what needs to be done to keep the jets safely in the air.

The day was a dramatic climb-down for the Conservatives who had ridiculed critics that expressed concerns about the choice and cost of the F-35, including opposition MPs and the parliamentary budget officer.

Asked whether he regretted his previous sharp language at critics, MacKay was unrepentant, saying he was simply being “passionate” about getting the military the equipment it needs.

But opposition MPs said the government has yet to commit to an open competition for the CF-18 replacement fighter.

“What we heard today is that the minimum price for this plane is three times higher than anything that this government has publicly disclosed to date. That’s tens of billions of dollars higher,” said NDP MP Matthew Kellway.

F-35s would cost $45.8 billion; feds hit ‘reset button’ | CTV News

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Is it possible that the US prommised Canada some F-22s instead of the F-35?
 
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Is it possible that the US prommised Canada some F-22s instead of the F-35?

Maybe in a decade or so ... :P Anyways Canada is under the belt of US , they should not be worried , they can keep buying F-18's .
 
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These US produced Fifth Generation Fighter/Bombers have priced themselves out of the market. China will have a field day producing such aircrafts at tenth the price tag. Maybe US will buy their future fighters from China. :D
 
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Canada all its life has done blunder. First blunder was the Avro Arrow fighter jet program. Could have been the world's best fighter jet but one day Canadian's just decided to shut the program for no obvious reasons.

Then the ITER program. We were the founding member. But one damn day we woke up and thought screw this ****. We are out of here.

Now this program.
 
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I would have liked to see the F-35 in our airforce, but I do understand that F35 is primarily an offensive weapon, and not an interceptor defensive weapon which is more in line with the nations defence philosophy. For the present role cheaper and battle tested platforms are available.
 
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Canada all its life has done blunder. First blunder was the Avro Arrow fighter jet program. Could have been the world's best fighter jet but one day Canadian's just decided to shut the program for no obvious reasons.

Now this program.

Did you know Avro Arrow Program was stopped shut down by US pressure, a huge bribe was involved. This was the turning point, Had Avro Arrow been developed and operational, later in the Future Canada might have developed even better modern Fighter.

Some idiot Politicians are giving wrong estimates. So what are the options:

- Home grown next to impossible and too late
- F-35s almost cancelled
- F-18E/F or F-15 Silent Eagle

45 billion over the life time costs for the next 32-36 Years is nothing.
 
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Selling to Canada is okay? But what about some country in Asia... US is the sole proprietor of power in this regions... it chooses who to support and who not to...

JF17 as potential adversary? :cheesy:

To a fifth generation fighter?
 
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Rafale is designed as stealth in the piC.:)
 
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