Can TB2s do a Russia on India?

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

*TB2s require no introduction. Following is my naïve analysis, based on the recent Russia-Ukraine conflict, to satisfy myself first and foremost. It’s not for any staff courses at the War Colleges!

Premises:

• The Indo-Pak conflict is below the nuclear threshold.
• 60-70% of the Indian defense equipment is from Russia.
• India follows the doctrine of mass armored assaults, adequately supported by artillery/rockets etc,, all across the Pak-Indian borders, especially along the deserts and plains,. Air superiority is a must for their strike fighters and combat choppers to cut through the Pak defenses. Not to mention the naval blockade along with attacks on PN assets, fuel storage etc.
• PAF can keep the IAF away from establishing a complete air superiority for the initial phase of the campaign.
• During that initial phase TB2s are employed en masse. They can be flown even from the paved roads. Thanks to the extensive EW deployment from both sides, the AI of TB2s – a reflection of the Pak staff planning and execution - can smartly and systematically pick-up the Indian targets – armored, artillery, EW, AD, IFVs etc. – and destroy them impeccably. It can do all these within its flight envelop without any human inputs in the midst of a complete radio silence.
• Being in a large number at the Pak arsenal the losses of TB2s don’t matter much. TB2s BOM is <2m$ with 95% of the components - including composites, engine, imaging, sensors, ammunition, communications etc. – are manufactured within Turkey. Pak might get the TOT to produce them like bunnies.

Inference: the Indian armored assault can be stopped even without using tactical nukes provided TB2s are intelligently used.

 

[hussain0216]

The Indians do have alot of shit in their ranks that would be prime target's

The Indians do have alot of shit in their ranks that would be prime target's

 

[Khan vilatey]

I think it would be an awesome tool in Pakistani arsenal

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[alphapak]

Pak is getting the Anka drones, which 1 is better? Anka or TB2?

 

[Shehryar Ashraf]

the problem with Pakistan isnt really stopping an Indian armored thrust.
it is in planning and executing a counter offensive.

 

[Foinikas]

Sure why not. If the Russians haven't found solutions for them yet...Indians would lose lots of units

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Pak is getting the Anka drones, which 1 is better? Anka or TB2?

Anka is more expensive for higher altitude, longer distance, more payload. sat based coms, SIGINT, EW etc. Anka can deploy TB2s in master-slave modes....

 

[Qutb-ud-din-Aibak]

Indians have a junk army and we saw a climpse of that in 2019 Feb

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

the problem with Pakistan isnt really stopping an Indian armored thrust.
it is in planning and executing a counter offensive.

Once the enemy armored, AD, EW, artlillery, rockets, mobile missiles etc. are degraded than the counter offensive should be easier under 24/7 drones (and, anti-drone systems) coverage....

 

[Shehryar Ashraf]

Once the enemy armored, AD, EW, artlaary, rockets, mobile missiles etc. are degraded than the counter offensive should be easier under 24/7 drones (and, anti-drone systems) coverage....

do not underestimate the ability of our generals to bungle up an offensive into enemy territory.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

do not underestimate the ability of our generals to bungle up an offensive into enemy territory.

Don't worry! Smart drones of all sorts - mega to mini - are being developed for a reason! AI would cater for habitual human errors....

 

[UK_PAKISTANI]

Turkish drones can change the course of a war, as seen in the Azerbaijan vs Armenia conflict.
In order to change the course of large scale Pak-India conflict they would need to be deployed in numbers never seen before.

In a worse case scenario, if Pakistan really had its back against the wall ( which almost certainly will in any Pak-India war )
Would the Turks be prepared to actively get involved and deploy, arm and fly drones in huge numbers against India.
The would need to "Darken the sky's" with Turkish drones, then "Darken the Indians" and make them fly the way the did to the Armenians.
Flying Armenians

 

[hussain0216]

The Indians do have alot of shit in their ranks that would be prime target's

 

[Qutb-ud-din-Aibak]

Turkish drones can change the course of a war, as seen in the Azerbaijan vs Armenia conflict.
In order to change the course of large scale Pak-India conflict they would need to be deployed in numbers never seen before.

In a worse case scenario, if Pakistan really had its back against the wall ( which almost certainly will in any Pak-India war )
Would the Turks be prepared to actively get involved and deploy, arm and fly drones in huge numbers against India.
The would need to "Darken the sky's" with Turkish drones, then "Darken the Indians" and make them fly the way the did to the Armenians.
Flying Armenians

I assure we won't be against the wall but they will.. We have a deep alliances behind our borders but they don't if anything we are overly favourite in such affair.. I also expect their moral to zip and tank if the northern cities start to fall one after the other..

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

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