Can Iran buy nukes from North Korea?

[Tokhme khar]

In case you haven't noticed yet, Iran has long ago won the battle for the control of the middle east. And if you were wondering about this, the truth (clear as day) starring you in the face is that Iran accomplished this without nukes.

So hopefully this answers your question on why Iran refuses to pursue nukes or WMD's.

You can't use nukes! even if you have them.

People should understand that Iran needs to acquire nuclear weapons. You can't live in the world where Israel, Pakistan, USA and maybe Saudi Arabia have nukes while Iran doesn't.

If USA decides to attack Iran, only nukes with ability to destroy US tactical air force in the airbases of Saudi Arabia with nuclear weapons will save Iran.

Iran needs minimum 30-40 nuclear warheads as an ability to destroy critical military infrastructure of the enemy.

While Iran can produce it by its own, it will have to leave nuclear agreement and if Iran leaves nuclear agreement harsh sanctions will be imposed.

The problem with sanctions is that Iran can't borrow money from international markets and make investments. Iran needs investments and foreign money and technology- and sanctions are a problem.

So it makes sense to continue legally developing IR-10 centrifuges to solve their problems, improve enrichment facilities and build many nuclear power plants legally, i/e build advanced nuclear infrastructure while avoiding sanctions-----at the same time secretly buy 10-15 nukes from NK.

NK has has enough nukes to protect itself, now what will they do with plutonium and uranium they produce? Iran can offer billions, while USA can offer to leave sanctions and allow NK to trade iron and buy oil --which is nothing....

NK can sell plutonium to Iran secretly, and no one will know and no one can prove it has happened. And Iran needs to secretly possess those nukes for the worst day.

And remember how USA reacted when NK tested thermonuclear bomb----Trump met with Kim and they started to talk. They will do the same with Iran if Iran tests nuclear weapon, since Iran is the most important country in the oil rich Persian Gulf

 

[GWXP]

In case you haven't noticed yet, Iran has long ago won the battle for the control of the middle east. And if you were wondering about this, the truth (clear as day) starring you in the face is that Iran accomplished this without nukes.

So hopefully this answers your question on why Iran refuses to pursue nukes or WMD's.

You can't use nukes! even if you have them.

You should hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Are you prepared (without nukes)?

I can imagine a scenario when Israel bombs Iranian targets in Syria and conflict escalates into Lebanon and to the point when Israel nukes Tehran----if Iran doesn't have a nuclear deterrence they can do it....

We can assume that USA has a military option against Iran --a massive air campaign----Qaddafi didn't have a bomb and you know what they did with him-----Kim from NK has nukes and after decades of humiliation and sanctions from USA-----US president met with him in Singapore and Hanoi talking with him as an equal and promising "massive economic success" for NK------isn't it a lesson for Iran?

How Iran can use nukes?-----
at minimum
1) you can use nukes as a negotiation tool-----for example give up nukes as an exchange for USA removing sanctions and recognizing Iran as a dominant power in the Persian Gulf region
at maximum
2) after you have nukes you feel more confident against USA because if you have nukes USA doesn't have a military option----------that mean that you can confidently destabilize Bahrain, Shia regions of Saudi Arabia, threaten to block the Straight of hormuz---without being afraid of American military response------------

USA knows that if Iran will have nukes it will be more assertive in the Persian Gulf region and it will have a negative effect on oil prices, --that is why if Iran will have nukes, USA will talk politely and enter negotiations offering to remove sanctions in exchange of Iran playing stabilizing rather than destabilizing role in the Straight of hormuz and oil rich Arabian peninsula.

If you don't have nukes----you are not equal---US and Israel can threaten you since they have a military option, while you can't respond.

As for winning the battle for the Middle East---------you can't hold what you have if you don't have nukes, because opposing side always has a military option

So hopefully this answers your question on why Iran refuses to pursue nukes or WMD's.

What a childish claim. Grow up. The opposing side can turn you into ash while you can do nothing--- and now you say Iran is not after nukes. Of course Iran is after nukes---you don't want to become Iraq 1991 or 2003 or Libya 2011.

The problem is that the closer you come to produce nukes the more it is likely that USA will attack Iran for preventing this to happen. That is why an accommodating nuclear deal was signed in 2014
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

 

[Tokhme khar]

You are clueless. No further comments.

You should hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Are you prepared (without nukes)?

I can imagine a scenario when Israel bombs Iranian targets in Syria and conflict escalates into Lebanon and to the point when Israel nukes Tehran----if Iran doesn't have a nuclear deterrence they can do it....

We can assume that USA has a military option against Iran --a massive air campaign----Qaddafi didn't have a bomb and you know what they did with him-----Kim from NK has nukes and after decades of humiliation and sanctions from USA-----US president met with him in Singapore and Hanoi talking with him as an equal and promising "massive economic success" for NK------isn't it a lesson for Iran?

How Iran can use nukes?-----
at minimum
1) you can use nukes as a negotiation tool-----for example give up nukes as an exchange for USA removing sanctions and recognizing Iran as a dominant power in the Persian Gulf region
at maximum
2) after you have nukes you feel more confident against USA because if you have nukes USA doesn't have a military option----------that mean that you can confidently destabilize Bahrain, Shia regions of Saudi Arabia, threaten to block the Straight of hormuz---without being afraid of American military response------------

USA knows that if Iran will have nukes it will be more assertive in the Persian Gulf region and it will have a negative effect on oil prices, --that is why if Iran will have nukes, USA will talk politely and enter negotiations offering to remove sanctions in exchange of Iran playing stabilizing rather than destabilizing role in the Straight of hormuz and oil rich Arabian peninsula.

If you don't have nukes----you are not equal---US and Israel can threaten you since they have a military option, while you can't respond.

As for winning the battle for the Middle East---------you can't hold what you have if you don't have nukes, because opposing side always has a military option


What a childish claim. Grow up. The opposing side can turn you into ash while you can do nothing--- and now you say Iran is not after nukes. Of course Iran is after nukes---you don't want to become Iraq 1991 or 2003 or Libya 2011.

The problem is that the closer you come to produce nukes the more it is likely that USA will attack Iran for preventing this to happen. That is why an accommodating nuclear deal was signed in 2014
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

 

[GWXP]

Iran has long ago won the battle for the control of the middle east.

Won the battle for control of the ME? Assad had nearly fallen, Syrian and Iraq are destroyed after ISIS and Nusra

Iran is under sanctions and since Iran doesn't have nukes, USA treats Iran as a marginal power by putting more pressure and talking aggressively, at the same time Kim from NK has nukes and they treat him as equal

You are clueless. No further comments.

So is Kim Jon Un from North Korea who already has nukes.
Saddam and Qaddafi are also clueless--they didn't have nukes ---you know what happened to them

 

[Tokhme khar]

lol.....equating the DPRK with Iran is a joke! Iran is an ideological power. The DPRK is not a threat. It is only a threat to itself!......lol

In case you were wondering, Iran decides what happens in the SyRaq, not the US. Same goes for Lebanon. In Yemen too, Iran has the upper hand............all this was done without having nukes.

Won the battle for control of the ME? it was not about this.
The plan was this: USA withdraws from Iraq in 2011 and Iran becomes a dominant power in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon and then it starts to harass Bahrain, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia where Shias are living in the oil rich region.

After Shia resistance starts in Saudi Arabia, Iran enters negotiations promising to stabilize Arabian peninsula and guarantee free flow of oil in exchange for removing sanctions and recognizing Iran as a dominant power in the Gulf, which means US military withdrawal from Kuwait and Bahrain---

And of course if you have nukes your negotiating positions are much better---

What happened in reality?----Assad had nearly fallen, Syrian and Iraq are destroyed after ISIS and Nusra

Iran is under sanctions and since Iran doesn't have nukes, USA treats Iran as a marginal power by putting more pressure and talking aggressively, at the same time Kim from NK has nukes and they treat him as equal


So is Kim Jon Un from North Korea who already has nukes.
Saddam and Qaddafi are also clueless--they didn't have nukes ---you know where they are

 

[GWXP]

If nukes are useless then why Russia/USA/China/India/Pakistan/Israel/NK have them? Why they don't want to rid from the "useless" nukes...LOL

Just one recent example. Several weeks ago India attacked Pakistan. If Pakistan didn't have nuclear deterrence India could use its superior conventional forces for a full out aggression

 

[Tokhme khar]

Going along with your teenage logic.....with 3000 active service nuclear warheads how come the US hasn't invaded Iran yet?

Well?

lol

If nukes are useless then why Russia/USA/China/India/Pakistan/Israel/NK have them? Why they don't want to rid from the "useless" nukes...LOL

Just one recent example. Several weeks ago India attacked Pakistan. If Pakistan didn't have nuclear deterrence India could use its superior conventional forces for a full out aggression

 

[GWXP]

US intelligence officials: North Korea will sell nuclear tech to Iran
https://thehill.com/opinion/nationa...cials-next-fear-north-korea-will-sell-nuclear

Iranian scientists believed to have attended North Korean nuclear test
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/15/iranian-scientists-believed-have-attended-north-ko/

Could North Korea help Iran develop nuclear weapons?
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/14/politics/north-korea-iran-nuclear-weapons-program/index.html

North Korea 'secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapons', British officials fear
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ea-secretly-helped-iran-gain-nuclear-weapons/

Could Iran Use Its $1.7 Billion Cash Jackpot To Buy North Korean Nukes?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/claudi...ckpot-to-buy-north-korean-nukes/#36a6ee303850

Going along with your teenage logic.....with 3000 active service nuclear warheads how come the US hasn't invaded Iran yet?

Well?

lol

it is never too late---ask Qaddafi and Saddam---they know better

In case you were wondering, Iran decides what happens in the SyRaq, not the US. Same goes for Lebanon. In Yemen too, Iran has the upper hand............all this was done without having nukes.

And also without ballistic missiles-----so you don't need them as well....LOL

 

[Tokhme khar]

Iran is a nuke threshold state. If there is a need, Iran can go nuclear, however in the current strategic scenario there is no likelihood of this happening.

Iran has long ago defeated the US for the control of the northern ME.

PS, you should be more concerned about Tajik/ Iran relations. They are not good these days.

US intelligence officials: North Korea will sell nuclear tech to Iran
https://thehill.com/opinion/nationa...cials-next-fear-north-korea-will-sell-nuclear

Iranian scientists believed to have attended North Korean nuclear test
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/15/iranian-scientists-believed-have-attended-north-ko/

Could North Korea help Iran develop nuclear weapons?
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/14/politics/north-korea-iran-nuclear-weapons-program/index.html

North Korea 'secretly helped by Iran to gain nuclear weapons', British officials fear
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ea-secretly-helped-iran-gain-nuclear-weapons/

Could Iran Use Its $1.7 Billion Cash Jackpot To Buy North Korean Nukes?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/claudi...ckpot-to-buy-north-korean-nukes/#36a6ee303850

 

[GWXP]

You can't use nukes! even if you have them.

I think people from Nagasaki and Hiroshima will not agree with you

 

[Tokhme khar]

Nukes don't bring security. And equating Saddam's Iraq, Qaddafi's Libya or Fat Kim's DPRK with Iran is hilarious!

lol

I think people from Nagasaki and Hiroshima will not agree with you

 

[yavar]

what joke section

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just reminder for Iranian members which do not understand technicalities

by Mordechai Vanunu in 1986.

wrong, example
Saudi Arabia today is tactical Atom bomb country as we speak .

MR Bin Salman just about to finish its first domestically assembled Rocket as we speak

and your best friend Trump was rushing to transfer sensitive nuclear technology to MBS Saudi arabia

you see Bin Salman can't keep the stock which came from Pakistan in fridge freezer

it needs facilities and for handling such sensitive stuff

only for Iranian members

 

[skyshadow]

only for Iranian members

ازمایش بمب ؟

 

[yavar]

ازمایش بمب ؟

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so don't worry or disappointed

 

[Mithridates]

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so don't worry or disappointed

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