What's new

Can China and India coexist in South Asia?

We don't mind to have a war of attrition with India if you keep this attitude, we'll see who will have the last laugh in the end.
Have you ever wondered how ballistic cum cruise missile like Shaurya survives the high aero-thermal loads experienced while flying at highly depressed trajectories (like a cruise missile) at hypersonic speeds of ~ 8 Mach ?

One way to deal with that is to ensure uniform heat distribution over the missile body (prevent sustained localised heating)
This is done by rolling the missile while inflight via deflection of rear fin in the tandem fins configuration which results in a corkscrew effect forcing the missile to roll
There is also a ablative coating which not only provides thermal protection but also reduces drag & increases range
This allows Shaurya to survive while flying low within the dense atmosphere like a cruise missile at high hypersonic speeds. Similar Tandem Fin configuration is also seen in SMART & PRALAY missiles

Which IMO implies that both SMART & PRALAY also posses the capability to execute (and survive) flight trajectories similar to ballistic cum cruise missiles (eg depressed trajectories) if so required
 
We don't mind to have a war of attrition with India if you keep this attitude, we'll see who will have the last laugh in the end.
20221002_120918.jpg

Do you know why the Chinese always acts antsy here?
- Because PP15 leads directly to upper reaches of Galwan river (blue line) which has large Chines presence.
- Chinese fear Indian attack along this axis.
- Forget direct assault; even Indian artillery placed in Kugrang Valley can hit Chinese positions.
20221002_121408.jpg

+ This is close-up of the Chinese Army position in the upper reaches of Galwan River.
- This serves as a base to support Chinese positions opposite PP14 where clash took place in 2020.
- If this base goes, Chinese lose entire Galwan River valley!
- Also, if IA takes this place it can use it as a base to turn right/east and gain access to Aksai Chin.
- See the map below.
- Long story short, the Chinese are quite paranoid about Indian presence and threat emanating from this area.
20221002_121523.jpg
 
Have you ever wondered how ballistic cum cruise missile like Shaurya survives the high aero-thermal loads experienced while flying at highly depressed trajectories (like a cruise missile) at hypersonic speeds of ~ 8 Mach ?

One way to deal with that is to ensure uniform heat distribution over the missile body (prevent sustained localised heating)
This is done by rolling the missile while inflight via deflection of rear fin in the tandem fins configuration which results in a corkscrew effect forcing the missile to roll
There is also a ablative coating which not only provides thermal protection but also reduces drag & increases range
This allows Shaurya to survive while flying low within the dense atmosphere like a cruise missile at high hypersonic speeds. Similar Tandem Fin configuration is also seen in SMART & PRALAY missiles

Which IMO implies that both SMART & PRALAY also posses the capability to execute (and survive) flight trajectories similar to ballistic cum cruise missiles (eg depressed trajectories) if so required
This one?

 
@beijingwalker
See...lessons to learn from Ukraine war..:-

Russia does not have advanced jammers or long range aam nor stealth tech in their jet...so air force use is close to nil....both sides are placing aad....so this gives both of them area denial to jets....
So deep strike munitions are only used like
Glide bombs,cruise missiles, ballistic missiles tactical...

So plaaf is useless against our barak 8, akash prime, s400, spyder....our rafale can still fare better...

So who is winning you the war?
Devastating artillery fire and rocket artillery for face to face battle and cruise missiles for deep strikes on HQ, ammo, rail and fuel depots...
Even atgm is keeping enemy tanks at bay...plus maintaing logistics is a huge factor....

Bringing military from eastern districts requires huge logistics..that can be easily cut down and filled...even russia is facing problems despite having tonnes of oil

If logistics is stuck on the road...you need jets like rafale and su30 mki to take the charge and defying s400, you have to do deep strikes on Chinese logistics
 
@beijingwalker
See...lessons to learn from Ukraine war..:-

Russia does not have advanced jammers or long range aam nor stealth tech in their jet...so air force use is close to nil....both sides are placing aad....so this gives both of them area denial to jets....
So deep strike munitions are only used like
Glide bombs,cruise mssls, ballistic missiles tactical...

So plaaf is useless against barak 8, akash prime, s400, spyder....our rafale can still fare better...

So who is winning you the war?
Devastating artillery fire and rocket artillery for face to face battle and cruise missiles for deep strikes on HQ, ammo, rail and fuel depots...
Even atgm is keeping enemy tanks at bay...plus maintaing logistics is a huge factor....

Bringing military from eastern districts requires huge logistics..that can be easily cut down and filled...even russia is facing problems despite having tonnes of oil

If logistics is stuck on the road...you need jets like rafale and su30 mki to take the charge and defying s400 ..you have to do deep strikes on their logistics
You are not Ukraine and China is not Russia
 
You are not Ukraine and China is not Russia
Fighter jets operating from Tibet airbase:
the case is, at such altitudes, you need a minimum speed to maintain enough lift to not stall. Maneuvers and other things require even higher relative speed to the wing.

So, the higher the altitude, thinner the air, greater the stall speed. Now, the problem does not end here. Due to the high variability of temperature throughout the day (freezing cold at night and ~20 deg. in day), combined with humidity conditions, the density of air keeps on changing dynamically, which cause erratic lift patterns, especially for aircraft with a low aerofoil (fighter jets).

To water down what I wrote above, a fighter jet will be able to take off with a long runaway run in morning and evening timeframes, at noon, it might overshoot the runaway with the same payload.

Ah, did I mention higher take-off and landing speeds (required for high-altitude runaways) cause more wear-and-tear of landing gear and frequent tire bursts ?
 
Bringing military from eastern districts requires huge logistics..that can be easily cut down and filled...even russia is facing problems despite having tonnes of oil
We have highways and high speed railways, and your ammunition can only last for 10 days based on your military leaders, we build our own weapon and ammo, it's not a problem for us.

 
You are not Ukraine and China is not Russia
Read this article:

Will be bombed by our cruise/ballistic missiles
 
Invade? Which government had every recognize Tibet as a country? Tibet is not Sikkim which used to be a well recognized sovereign state.
We don't mind to have a war of attrition with India if you keep this attitude, we'll see who will have the last laugh in the end.
Trying to be a big bully. For God's sake ( I forgot you don't believe in god) show some human compassion. They been living as refugees for more than 50 years.

Anyway, that is not our take. It is the take of Tibetan government in Exile. Recently, I have noticed that they have toned down their anger towards China and are seeking for a solution including autonomous status under China.
 
This one?

There is only one HIMARS. it is owned by USA
 
Trying to be a big bully. For God's sake ( I forgot you don't believe in god) show some human compassion. They been living as refugees for more than 50 years.

Anyway, that is not our take. It is the take of Tibetan government in Exile. Recently, I have noticed that they have toned down their anger towards China and are seeking for a solution including autonomous status under China.
Dalai Lama cult followers chose their own destiny, 99% Tibetans live in Tibet with average income and standard of living level that you Indians can only dream of.
 
In a normal world, loan money comes to the country ,contract is awarded to local contractors,employs locals ,most of it is spent locally and project is completed.

In In CPEC, China awards the contract to Chinese companies, source the material from China and also employs its citizens in the project ,only a small portion of the money actually comes to Pakistan. And the Pakistanis have to payback in dollars with high interest rates.
What high interest you idiot ? Chinese loans to pakistan and other developing countries have usually much lower interest rates compared to the west, you indians just like to make BS. Whats wrong with awarding some of the contracts to chinese companies such as building the dams and nuclear reactors that only chinese companies have the know how tech and experience to carry out the projects efficiently ? Whats wrong with hiring chinese engineers and experienced technicians in the projects to implemment them quickly and efficiently if pakistan doesnt have the qualified tech people in the beginning ? idiot, whats the project called, CPEC, right, china-pakistan economic corridor, dont you get it ? China is supposed to help pakistan build the projects as CPEC the name implies. So, you dont want chinese companies and tech people and management get involved in those projects and pakistan should build them alone ? Why dont ask for chinas help in the first place and dont call it CPEC, either pakistan is going to build the projects by itself or ask your good for nothing country to help build them and call the project IPEC instead. You good for nothing Indian stop making up all the BS narratives on pakistan-china bad relation all the time and stop talking nonsense to me all the time.
 
Back
Top Bottom