Cameron's inflammatory comments against Pakistan: I meant Pakistanis are terrorists..

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Brits are known to jump the boat just ask Ottoman's how they were backstabbed by their once allies big backstabbers these brits

 

[amit27]

I am talking about their actions against the Pakistani state.

The British PM did not refer to the Pakistani state or people exporting terror, he meant there was a nexus between some groups and perhaps a element in the ISI who still maintain links to such groups. No action will be taken on the Pakistani state which is a democratic goverment but he is trying to prod pakistan to act against groups like the Haqqani network, LET and others whether the Pakistani goverment can act is another question time shall tell.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The British PM did not refer to the Pakistani state or people exporting terror, he meant there was a nexus between some groups and perhaps a element in the ISI who still maintain links to such groups. No action will be taken on the Pakistani state which is a democratic goverment but he is trying to prod pakistan to act against groups like the Haqqani network, LET and others whether the Pakistani goverment can act is another question time shall tell.

He did not name the ISI or Army specifically either, giving himself wiggle room to back out of (or 'clarify') anything pretty much.

 

[fatman17]

^to secure a $1.1B arms package, one can also 'sell their mothers" in this day and age.

 

[Agni 5]

I am talking about their actions against the Pakistani state.

This is said by British PM. not by some banana republic leader.

British is Veto member of UN security council.

You will see the action soon.

 

[SMC]

What actions are being taken? He is saying this while in india to put some music to indian ears. Once he's out of india, this statement will be history, and things will go on as usual.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

This is said by British PM. not by some banana republic leader.

British is Veto member of UN security council.

You will see the action soon.

Yes, Pakistan might see action soon, but you will see action now.

Thanks for stopping by to troll.

 

[IceCold]

Well If Pakistan is such a bad guy then may i suggest Mr Cameron to stop any kind of links with Pakistan, be it on trade or other projects if any at all and declare openly that Pakistan supports terrorism as a state policy.
Maybe this will open up our pathetic bunch of politicians and there appeasement policy towards ghoras aka masters.

On a side note you cannot expect this government to stand up to it, Zadaris son is studying and living in UK and they all have been given shelter by the UK. Even Musharraf is there. So we wont see a response from GOP nor anyone else for that matter not like the one we would wanna watch, like expelling of a British diplomat. Sad but true.

 

[amit27]

He did not name the ISI or Army specifically either, giving himself wiggle room to back out of (or 'clarify') anything pretty much.

This is the British way of doing things not to burn all the bridges. The British PM was also told not to mention Kashmir too much or the fact that there is 500 million Indians living in poverty as this might be deemed offensive, this is a well put together PR campaign as up until a few years ago UK was India's 4th biggest trade partner and now in 2010 China, USA, UAE have overtaken and this trip is trying to rebalance that.

 

[Bang Galore]

Will the lies and propaganda uttered by Cameron and pushed by the media have an impact on an uninformed global public? Absolutely.

Well, this from someone slightly less uninformed.

‘Headley’s disclosures can wreck Pak-US ties’

WASHINGTON: David Headley’s revelation that LeT planned the Mumbai attacks with possible help from the ISI is a ‘ticking time-bomb’ that could wreck the US-Pakistan relationship and take the subcontinent to disaster, a former CIA official has warned. Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official and now with the prestigious Brookings Institute, said Pakistan should carry out a ‘thorough house cleaning’ of its military after the Pakistani-American LeT operative’s revelations that attackers had links to the ISI.
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Pakistan should carry out a thorough house cleaning of its military after revelations by Mumbai terror accused David Headley that its spy agency ISI had links to the attackers, a former CIA official has said. "Thanks to David Headley's extraordinary confessions, we now know how thoroughly LeT
planned its 2008 Mumbai attack and how closely linked it is to al-Qaeda - and perhaps to the Pakistani military," said Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official and now with the prestigious Brookings Institute.

"There is no excuse for not executing a more robust crack down on Lashkar-e-Taiba and its front organisations from the Pakistani government and for not conducting a thorough house cleaning within the Pakistani army," Riedel said commenting on the recent statements of top Indian officials that Headley's interrogations had given ample proof of ISI's involvement in the Mumbai terrorist attack.

"Headley revelations, if true, paint a picture of official Pakistani military cooperation in an act of mass causality terror that raises very worrisome and alarming questions about our most important partner and India’s nuclear-armed neighbour," he said.

"The truth about Mumbai and the future of Lashkar-e-Taiba is the ticking time bomb that could wreck the nascent US-Pakistan partnership Secretary Clinton is rightly trying to build and that could take the subcontinent to disaster," Riedel said.

The former CIA official, who helped draft the new Afghanistan policy of the Obama Administration, said Headley is a convicted conspirator and may have his own reasons to mislead and lie, but his newest accusations are raising a firestorm in India.
'Pak should carry out thorough house cleaning of its military'

..................Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Kabul said that Headley's comments have included "a revealing set of facts" which the United States has now shared with the Pakistanis.

"Washington and New Delhi are both now waiting for Islamabad to respond. The Indians who have resumed their official dialogue with Pakistan after suspending it in the wake of 26/11 seem uncertain about how to proceed next. They have suspected Pakistani collusion in the Mumbai attacks from the start but could not prove it before Headley's statements," Riedel said.



- Hindustan Times

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Bang galore:

Surely you do not believe that after having Headley under their control for so long and with the ability to lock him up and throw the key away, that the US did not know everything that Headely had to tell them about Mumbai or anything else terrorism related.

Surely you are not so arrogant as to presume that Headley was only able to be convinced to talk by India's 'super sleuths' sent to interrogate him with his lawyer present?

The fact is the US has know whatever it is Headley has had to say about Mumbai, and the US-Pak relationship has not changed much on that count. Now either this means that they do not care about what he has to say on the Mumbai attacks issue, and therefore are dismissing India, or that the rather fantastic stories about the ISI-Mumbai attack links published in the Indian press are less than credible, and are not a cause of worry for the US.

 

[ek_indian]

Unnecessary discussion. If Pakistan has to change its policy of "strategic assets", there was ample opportunities. So it is naive to expect any policy shift. Paksitan also have important position in WoT so we are unlikely to see any action of whatever kind.

However, a diplomatic debacle for Pakistan. Clearly a not-so-good job by Pakistan's foreign ministry.

 

[Bang Galore]

Bang galore:

Surely you do not believe that after having Headley under their control for so long and with the ability to lock him up and throw the key away, that the US did not know everything that Headely had to tell them about Mumbai or anything else terrorism related.

Surely you are not so arrogant as to presume that Headley was only able to be convinced to talk by India's 'super sleuths' sent to interrogate him with his lawyer present?

The fact is the US has know whatever it is Headley has had to say about Mumbai, and the US-Pak relationship has not changed much on that count. Now either this means that they do not care about what he has to say on the Mumbai attacks issue, and therefore are dismissing India, or that the rather fantastic stories about the ISI-Mumbai attack links published in the Indian press are less than credible, and are not a cause of worry for the US.

Not half as arrogant as people who believe that anyone in the world is buying the obfuscations that that many in Pakistan are so desperately trying to sell.

You are confusing different issues and I am not convinced that is accidental. Would the Americans have the ability to ferret out the information from Headley? Absolutely ! Does it necessarily follow that the Americans want this out in the public domain? Not at all! One of the supposed criticisms voiced from the Americans on the Headley issue was that it was revealed openly in the public domain. They have not disputed anything that Indian sources have said. On others threads like you have done above, you have questioned the claims of the Indian sources. Headley was interviewed in the the presence of his lawyer as well as the FBI. No one has come forward & cast doubts on the veracity of Indian claims. You can choose to believe what you want, however no amount of verbal & mental contortions will change the fact that Pakistan is now increasingly being viewed as the villain of the piece. No amount of name calling & hand wringing is going to change that.

As for why Americans keep quiet, why should that be surprising? According to the documents on WikiLeaks, they have not gone public with many of the accusations preferring to handle it in private meetings.

But at the same time there are elements in this context that pass the test of probability and plausibility. Among these is the case of Stephen Kappes, the CIA’s deputy head, confronting the ISI in July 2008 with evidence of its role in a deadly suicide attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul.
WikiLeaks fallout: US, UK, India criticize Pakistan as terror haven - CSMonitor.com

 

[third eye]

Bang galore:

Surely you do not believe that after having Headley under their control for so long and with the ability to lock him up and throw the key away, that the US did not know everything that Headely had to tell them about Mumbai or anything else terrorism related.

Surely you are not so arrogant as to presume that Headley was only able to be convinced to talk by India's 'super sleuths' sent to interrogate him with his lawyer present?

The fact is the US has know whatever it is Headley has had to say about Mumbai, and the US-Pak relationship has not changed much on that count. Now either this means that they do not care about what he has to say on the Mumbai attacks issue, and therefore are dismissing India, or that the rather fantastic stories about the ISI-Mumbai attack links published in the Indian press are less than credible, and are not a cause of worry for the US.

... Or they know whats happening and wish to shut a blind eye to it till their ends are met and retain the option of using it at a later date when it suits them .

 

[EgO Boy]

When a leader of the stature of British PM speaks then generally the entire world listens!!
Have that in your mind.

CAMERON WHO ???