Cambodia was a covid success story and using Chinese vaccines

[Han Patriot]

I just realuse something, Cambodia was almost vaccinated entirely by Sinovac vaccines and had very low mortality. But people say Chinese vaccines don't work. Indonesia using Chinese vaccines had less death than US or India.

 

[mili]

No surprise. Even from early days of the vaccine, there were many layman comments that China's inactivated vax using the entire virus are better than mrna using only the spike protein, especially when dealing with mutated virus.

Now expert studies also prove this.

 

[the_messenger]

Not only Cambodia, Mongolia, UAE as well. It is also a fact that during the peak of Delta in 2021 (around April - September), many countries in ASEAN depend on China Vaccine and Astra Zeneca: Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand as well as Pakistan and Vietnam. Some country use more chinese vaccine, some use more AZ
m-RNA only become widely available after the peak pass
The performance is good, very good. It make the effort to lock down China in 2022 become really confusing

 

[mili]

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The performance is good, very good. It make the effort to lock down China in 2022 become really confusing

No confusion at all, while the theory China inactivated vax is better is always there, it's safer to see how it goes in the real world outside of China first. Like an experiment.

 

[mili]

No surprise. Even from early days of the vaccine, there were many layman comments that China's inactivated vax using the entire virus are better than mrna using only the spike protein, especially when dealing with mutated virus.

Now expert studies also prove this.

Having said that, I always say that effectiveness against covid probably should not be the main concern of those who took mrna.

The west never had the chance to take China vax but it's heart breaking, pun intended, to see those who had the chance, like many in Thailand, but chose mrna instead and paid a heavy price.

Vaccine myocarditis update from Thailand

First some background for 1st time readers. Readers who are regular followers can skip this section and go straight to the Thailand study section. Background: It has long ago been established that the messenger RNA vaccines cause myocarditis, the controversial question now relates to what the...

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a study of 300 13-18 year olds from Thailand where most of the children were <15 should be fairly benign.

Unfortunately, the results are not reassuring.
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But it is certainly not good news that a small 301 patient study of Thai adolescents/teenagers picks up this much cardiac injury after a second dose of the Pfizer vaccine. (Recall that the Moderna vaccine has been shown to have myocarditis rates 3-4x Pfizer). I can assure you, and the mostly ER doctor contingent on twitter that brays about “mild myocarditis”, that there are no cardiologists who want to see their child have a cardiac troponin that is 2x normal or 40x normal after administration of some therapeutic.........................

 

[etylo]

I just realuse something, Cambodia was almost vaccinated entirely by Sinovac vaccines and had very low mortality. But people say Chinese vaccines don't work. Indonesia using Chinese vaccines had less death than US or India.

So is pakistan successful management of the pandemic with Chinese vaccines.

 

[Han Patriot]

So is pakistan successful management of the pandemic with Chinese vaccines.

Exactly but the MSM is saying the reason China is afraid to open is becUse yhey aint using Mrna.

China supplied the most vaccines to the most diverse country on earth. Yet we are the villain now, I don't think it's fair.

Science proved our vaccines to be safer and effective but msm bashed it till the people believe the contrary.

I can explain the Chinese Zero Covid strategy, it is actually rational, but nobody would believe me. Never in China even during the worst Shanghai lockdowns were there more than 1% of the population under quarantine. 99.5 of the population were never locked. The strategy was about using 3% growth to save roughly 2 mil lives. But now i guess China don't care anymore. Btw i am no zero covid supporter, 80s year olds dying is okay as long as i don't lose money. It's actually the Confucian mindset that forced us to do it. Imagine you have a 75 year old father with cancer, you can treat him if you pay a mil but he dies 5 years later. Was it worth it? Most Chinese will do it out of cultural fillial piety.

 

[etylo]

Not only Cambodia, Mongolia, UAE as well. It is also a fact that during the peak of Delta in 2021 (around April - September), many countries in ASEAN depend on China Vaccine and Astra Zeneca: Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand as well as Pakistan and Vietnam. Some country use more chinese vaccine, some use more AZ
m-RNA only become widely available after the peak pass
The performance is good, very good. It make the effort to lock down China in 2022 become really confusing

China is just too cautious on management of the pandemic, they are just horrified with the possibility of repeat of Wuhan out break.

Exactly but the MSM is saying the reason China is afraid to open is becUse yhey aint using Mrna.

China supplied the most vaccines to the most diverse country on earth. Yet we are ghe villain now, I don't think it's fair.

50 percent of world vaccines are produced in China, billions of Chinese vaccines are exported to many countries in the world. People in the west and india just want to see china doomed, they want to bash china no matter what china does.

 

[ziaulislam]

Exactly but the MSM is saying the reason China is afraid to open is becUse yhey aint using Mrna.

China supplied the most vaccines to the most diverse country on earth. Yet we are the villain now, I don't think it's fair.

Science proved our vaccines to be safer and effective but msm bashed it till the people believe the contrary.

I can explain the Chinese Zero Covid strategy, it is actually rational, but nobody would believe me. Never in China even during the worst Shanghai lockdowns were there more than 1% of the population under quarantine. 99.5 of the population were never locked. The strategy was about using 3% growth to save roughly 2 mil lives. But now i guess China don't care anymore. Btw i am no zero covid supporter, 80s year olds dying is okay as long as i don't lose money. It's actually the Confucian mindset that forced us to do it. Imagine you have a 75 year old father with cancer, you can treat him if you pay a mil but he dies 5 years later. Was it worth it? Most Chinese will do it out of cultural fillial piety.

Problem with China is zero COVID policy is killing more people of other causes then COVID

 

[etylo]

Problem with China is zero COVID policy is killing more people of other causes then COVID

Killing people of what causes becos of covid practice ?

 

[Beast]

No surprise. Even from early days of the vaccine, there were many layman comments that China's inactivated vax using the entire virus are better than mrna using only the spike protein, especially when dealing with mutated virus.

Now expert studies also prove this.

You must tag @Mista , becos this slayer keep slandering China vaccine.

Not only Cambodia, Mongolia, UAE as well. It is also a fact that during the peak of Delta in 2021 (around April - September), many countries in ASEAN depend on China Vaccine and Astra Zeneca: Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand as well as Pakistan and Vietnam. Some country use more chinese vaccine, some use more AZ
m-RNA only become widely available after the peak pass
The performance is good, very good. It make the effort to lock down China in 2022 become really confusing

Becos Xi thought Chinese cant stomach covid death and willing to save life more than personal freedom.

 

[Menthol]

I just realuse something, Cambodia was almost vaccinated entirely by Sinovac vaccines and had very low mortality. But people say Chinese vaccines don't work. Indonesia using Chinese vaccines had less death than US or India.

Of course, it's a success.

What people are using before m-RNA vaccine was invented?

And it's not a success?


If a professional says that the traditional vaccine is not successful, then he is stupid or he has a hidden agenda (like politics).

Covid-19 is full of geopolitical war.

 

[mili]

You must tag @Mista , becos this slayer keep slandering China vaccine.

He's likely already triple boosted with mrna, beyond help in more ways than one.

 

[Mista]

You must tag @Mista , becos this slayer keep slandering China vaccine.

Yeah sure, because I infiltrated Singapore, HK, Chile, Malaysia, and co-authored all these studies:

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[Beast]

Yeah sure, because I infiltrated Singapore, HK, Chile, Malaysia, and co-authored all these studies:

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Indeed, slander paid fabricate report. Typical cheap tactics against anything from China.