What's new

Cambodia Publicly Endorses China Position on South China Sea | Voice of America

. .
You thanks for President of Indonesia who said that U shape claim of Chine is baseless. good progress. :sarcastic:

But general secretary of Vietnam did not concured with him :lol:

20140123155643-china-vn.jpg
 
. . .
In the light of today, could you make a comment on that ? tell us anything you have in mind about that.
I think today we should look forward to our common ASEAN future.
There might be the day ASEAN become a federation of states, the way US is federation of many smaller states.
If that day come, then there need no war among us.
Hypothetical, yes. But who knows the future.

For today, if every ASEAN states satisfies with current border, if ASEAN states could solve border dispute peacefully, there will be no war. We S.E.A people has suffered for too long poverty and backwardness. Let tomorrow be the day where our children enjoy European's prosperity like wealth, quality of life, and scientific achievement. Our children will be called Professors, Bankers, Lenders, Teachers, etc. Let the future problem be solved by our children's ingenuity. Let the world respect us people the way European have been respected.
 
.
I think today we should look forward to our common ASEAN future.
There might be the day ASEAN become a federation of states, the way US is federation of many smaller states.
If that day come, then there need no war among us.
Hypothetical, yes. But who knows the future.

For today, if every ASEAN states satisfies with current border, if ASEAN states could solve border dispute peacefully, there will be no war. We S.E.A people has suffered for too long poverty and backwardness. Let tomorrow be the day where our children enjoy European's prosperity like wealth, quality of life, and scientific achievement. Our children will be called Professors, Bankers, Lenders, Teachers, etc. Let the future problem be solved by our children's ingenuity. Let the world respect us people the way European have been respected.

:kiss3:

images
 
.
that is siam kingdom at the height of power in 17, 18 and 19 century. we conducted 3 military campaigns against siam, with the decisive battle against siam navy (300 warships) at Mekong river in year 1785. we expelled the siamese out of laos and cambodia, driving them back to their homeland.
View attachment 208472

victory monument over siam
View attachment 208480
This map includes numerous vassal states, not just core Siam.
Ancient Siam was peaceful. We even helped Nguyen Ahn ascendary to Vietnam's throne. Though our force were destroyed, Nguyen Ahn was finally the King of Vietnam, as our Rama1 King wished. However, the good relationship ended when Nguyen Ahn's son ascend to Vietnam's throne. New Vietnam King invaded and interfere our vassal states internal politics. Forgot all the thing Siamese King help, just like forgot all Chinese help during Vietnam war, even many generations later. Vietnamese's property is a constant over time.
 
.
I think today we should look forward to our common ASEAN future.
There might be the day ASEAN become a federation of states, the way US is federation of many smaller states.
If that day come, then there need no war among us.
Hypothetical, yes. But who knows the future.

For today, if every ASEAN states satisfies with current border, if ASEAN states could solve border dispute peacefully, there will be no war. We S.E.A people has suffered for too long poverty and backwardness. Let tomorrow be the day where our children enjoy European's prosperity like wealth, quality of life, and scientific achievement. Our children will be called Professors, Bankers, Lenders, Teachers, etc. Let the future problem be solved by our children's ingenuity. Let the world respect us people the way European have been respected.

The closest thing ASEAN will become in the future is similar to EU as I doubt any country in ASEAN is willing to surrender most of its sovereignty.
 
.
This map includes numerous vassal states, not just core Siam.
Ancient Siam was peaceful. We even helped Nguyen Ahn ascendary to Vietnam's throne. Though our force were destroyed, Nguyen Ahn was finally the King of Vietnam, as our Rama1 King wished. However, the good relationship ended when Nguyen Ahn's son ascend to Vietnam's throne. New Vietnam King invaded and interfere our vassal states internal politics. Forgot all the thing Siamese King help, just like forgot all Chinese help during Vietnam war, even many generations later. Vietnamese's property is a constant over time.
that is the problem with your country thailand and your darling china. your help came with strings attached, had a price. more than we were willing to pay. siam sought hegemony in indochina, wanted annexing laos and cambodia. the chinese, well, they demanded vietnam to kowtow before them, accepting all of their demands, from rejecting the USSR to their dominance in the SC sea. in short, you both are self-indulgent.

I don´t expect you to understand such a basic thing. least the chinese.

The closest thing ASEAN will become in the future is similar to EU as I doubt any country in ASEAN is willing to surrender most of its sovereignty.
the EU is a success model, based on mutual respect and equatility. it is not about surrendering sovereignty. member states transfer a part of their sovereignty to a supranational instance. but get some rights in this instance in return. one country one vote. rotating chairmanship. the largest country germany has the same right and obligation like the smallest one as luxembourg. the system guarantees no country can impose its will on others.

only delusional indonesians clowns constantly dream of being the boss in asean.

germany pays more 12 billions of dollar a year to support other less developed member states. however, germany has the same vote like all other states. can indonesia pay the same amount to support others? let say $5 billions at start?
 
Last edited:
.
that is the problem with your country thailand and your darling china. your help came with strings attached, had a price. more than we were willing to pay. siam sought hegemony in indochina, wanted annexing laos and cambodia. the chinese, well, they demanded vietnam to kowtow before them, accepting all of their demands, from rejecting the USSR to their dominance in the SC sea. in short, you both are self-indulgent.

I don´t expect you to understand such a basic thing. least the chinese.


the EU is a success model, based on mutual respect and equatility. it is not about surrendering sovereignty. member states transfer a part of their sovereignty to a supranational instance. but get some rights in this instance in return. one country one vote. rotating chairmanship. the largest country germany has the same right and obligation like the smallest one as luxembourg. the system guarantees no country can impose its will on others.

only delusional indonesians clowns constantly dream of being the boss in asean.

germany pays more 12 billions of dollar a year to support other less developed member states. however, germany has the same vote like all other states. can indonesia pay the same amount to support others? let say $5 billions at start?

It was mentioned in this manner :

"There might be the day ASEAN become a federation of states, the way US is federation of many smaller states.
If that day come, then there need no war among us
."

While the 50 states of US can govern itself, those states are not fully independent compared to the European Union where each nation-states still has some degree of independence from one another.
 
.
It was mentioned in this manner :

"There might be the day ASEAN become a federation of states, the way US is federation of many smaller states.
If that day come, then there need no war among us
."

While the 50 states of US can govern itself, those states are not fully independent compared to the European Union where each nation-states still has some degree of independence from one another.
NO, Asean is not EU, least the US. at present, at best Asean can develop to another Asian EU. but that is a long way to go, maybe in 50 years, until Asean has a central bank, a central government, a central parlament and so on. by keeping the national sovereignty. other than that is unrealistic.
 
. .
NO, Asean is not EU, least the US. at present, at best Asean can develop to another Asian EU. but that is a long way to go, maybe in 50 years, until Asean has a central bank, a central government, a central parlament and so on. by keeping the national sovereignty. other than that is unrealistic.

Besides, ASEAN is only "united" in name but in practice... I doubt it.
 
. .
Back
Top Bottom