CALIPHATE'S LAST YEAR (1923 PHOTOS of ISTANBUL)

[cabatli_53]

Thanks Allah. After 90 years passed establishement of Turkish republic rising with a high speed in terms of technology, defence industry, social, economical, cultural and civilzation areas, There are some darkage insects whose b@tts are paining with succesfull revolutions of young republic proceeding under the way of M. Kemal Ataturk and Those advancements are proceeding on the lights great leader enlightened even today under the red-white flag of our proud democratic and secular Republic. Today's elected Turkish governments also clearly state that All their aims are to catch the contemporary civilization, economical and technological level Ataturk targetted in 1920's and hanging the posters of Ataturk in their rooms but Some of insect brains whose missions are to throw mud to the personallity of great leader with their imaginations/paining b@tts with their hatret senses they feed on Democratic-Seculat and Social Turkish Republic along with establisher team under the command of Ataturk, While they always imagine Turkish Republic as a shame part of Ottoman dictatorial times. Those are the same Morons who shame themselves to share the achievements of Turkish Republic cause of hatret senses they feed on, While They always prefer telling Ottoman times and Those insects don't know even Turkish but examining the Turkishness and purpose of M. Kemal Ataturk with Independance war cause of the city He borned with their littile minds. They are so idiot that They prefer ignoring Selanik was a Turkish city in those years...

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

the truth is unfortunately the last caliph was T. E. Lawrence he was an englishman, better known as Lawrence of Arabia he saved the muslim world and Islam from Turks and he turned back to England!

Mr Lawrance , was nothing else but , a Ramond Davis of that time , he was sent in with weapons and money and he came with his espionage tactics , his mission was to destroy the supply lines for Ottoman Empire, with out supplies their soliders would not be able to fight

Don't ever call that British Scum bag anything else but a scum bag he was

He simply funded gorillas (Present day example Libya) and then a proxy war was fought the gorillas( Arabs) were promised (Money and land) they got in reality was Israel

Perhaps , with out war may be Turkish people would have found democracy but their problem was really that , Europe stopped paying them tax for "Sea Routes that Ottoman's controlled"

With out that terrif / tax what ever the empire became poor and had social problems

Mr Attaturk , was just a general , who wanted to preseve "Remaining Ottoman Empire" residents dignity and we respect that greatly

Instead of a prolonged war , europe gave Turkey something back to prevent a on going war and fear of Turkish people's anger later so they agreed a sease fire

As for UK / British Agents like Lawrance hope he died a painful death on his bike lol who knows may be he himself we deceived... once a liar always a liar

 

[Quasar]

Today's Turkish governments elected also clearly state that All their aims are to catch the contemporary civilization Ataturk targetted in 1920's and hanging the posters of Ataturk in their rooms

might be hard for some to try to visualize the scene so let me just use a picture to help them to form a mental image of the role and the importance of Gazi Mustafa Kemal Ataturk for Turkish society regardless of any political position!

what is crucial here is

this is from his private, party (AKP) office!

taken by foreign media!

the message communicated via this picture is quite obvious!

if still not! I recommend people to read and check his speeches on secularism in Tunisia and Egypt!




and who knows may be someday some people may understand secularism and laicism (Laïcité) or the difference between the two!

 

[W.11]

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[silko]

syria has just got s300 and cruise missiles and russian ship guarding syria, now turkey if invades will suffer in the place of nato, so nato is trying to play safe by using turkey as the next piece in their chess board

happy gaming

we have made a statement on the Syrian issue that we won't INTERFERE MILITARILY!!!

geeezzz i have to write it everywhere now!

 

[Cerian]

we have made a statement on the Syrian issue that we won't INTERFERE MILITARILY!!!

geeezzz i have to write it everywhere now!

There are some conditions in which Turkey will intervene militarily according to official accounts. If such an intervention happens, it will be very limited to achieve a certain goal; to create a buffer zone near the Turkish border for refugees.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well I don`t see an issue with Turkey helping Syrian residents , after all Mr Asad , is a dicatator

I prefer Turkey to help free Syria , if possible and begin expansion of Ottoman Empire and bring back some self respect back

But I don`t feel a war is necessarily but if Mr Asad feels its ok to drop bombs on his people then he is wrong

What happened to Libya (Dictator)
What happened to Syria (Dictator)
What happened to Egypt (Again a proxy dicator Military)
What happened to Algeria (Again war with France Dictatorship)

As you can see , after the `BETRAYAL`for 30-80 years the Masters let the dictators enjoy it
and now they are reclaiming the land as it has oil and resources , France you see it building bases , in UAE , other countries having war with Algeria to steal that

Libya has and its resources have already been stolen as we speak

THE ARAB SPRING is it not strange that it happened on all these lands `where` people were promised somethings special ....

But !!! What did they get in return for helping British 80 years ago ?

Poverty , lack of job and low life

Its about time people of that region woke up

Its what you call

" THE PEOPLE WERE SLEEPING .... because the history books in their schools , do not contain this
the are in perpetual sleep , because they do not learn this in school because its deemed not
related to them - because they are told , it was not their history lol ... "

Almost like people are sleeping just like they were in matrix ,in these make believe countries where they get little ration to just get by ...

 

[mohamadira]

Its good to reflect over history and learn from it but it is also important to look forward and not back, one of the reasons why the Muslim world lagged behind and still does is because we became so stuck in our past and so stagnant that we forgot to adapt with time.

but if you reject scientific thought for eg, all muslims in this forum reject evolution. how will you progress?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well we support Evolution and infact we want us to evolve back to Ottoman Empire
This time however , the empire will expand from the map above all the way to Indonesia

Nothing wrong with Evolution

We hope this evolution would commence nothing wrong in peaceful expansion

Science was invented by Muslims , so please save the scientific argument

 

[asad71]

1. The Sultan of Turkey was the last Caliph of the Muslims. Living in a Dar ul Harb under the British we used to offer Friday prayer "khutba" in his name. With the annulment of the Caliphate we had lost our spiritual head. It was a great shock indeed.

2. For WCC(Western Christian Civilization) there were two urgent items in their agenda to be achieved in the last century.

a. Scrapping of the last Caliphate and the demotion of the Turkish empire (FYI, the Caliphs of Istanbul never called themselves Turkish monarchs, but Caliphs of Islam. Even the people were not known as Turks but Muslims with Arabic an important language). WCC leaders the British empire now ruled supreme.

b. Elimination of the growing Islamic influence in SA observed during the Khilafat Movement. For this they pressed into service the Aga Khani Ismailis and manufactured the Qadyianiat. Finally, with the aid of Hindu leaders, they stage-manged division of British India in a manner that left the Muslims greatly disadvantaged and broken into three parts.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well , Subcontinent (India , Pakistan - Afghanistan - Bangladesh) was ruled by British around the same time when Ottoman Empire was expanding or has had expanded to its max limits

The scenario was very simple in Europe

Europe initially inferior to Ottoman Empire , in term of education and social rights but they translated all the books and knowledge done in Ottoman Empire funded Universities and Education facilities which started a revolution in Europe


Also during 1400-1800 , major war happened at sea where all the Turkish ships were destroyed , so Ottoman Empire lost their ability to command the waters and collect "Taxes" - that is something that weakened the Empire

(Why does USA pays so much attention to collecting taxes ? ever wondered that ? Because they teach history in their schools)


Plus they ran these "Campaigns - Propaganda" in Ottoman lands , that went something like

a) The reason why you are poor is because of your language
b) The reason why you are feeling hardship is because of your government
c) The reason why you are feeling there are no jobs is because , all jobs are for one group

This propaganda was used again in Bangladesh
and this is also something USA is trying so hard to do in Iran


But the idiots Bedouins of desert , were so stupid they believed what ever was fed to them

Example: Look at present day Libya , in search of better future , they sold all oil assets to France and Britain

Also Britain always managed to win Most Friendly Nation status to move its assets weapons across Ottoman Empire they stole land and then went and got treaties with Ottomans , a mistake

Destruction of Ottomans was more of a "Opportunistic Kill " ..

For me it was the decision to not collect tax , of passing ships that went from Asia to Europe that killed Ottomans

We technically committing same mistake by allowing US Nato weapons and supply routes


also one cannot ..forget all the gold and jewls stolen from india for british ...

One one hand british empire was expanding

a) Canada (Settlement they paid to royals)
b) South Africa (Settlement)
c) Australia (Settlement)

The settlement was supported by military from UK , and they were supported by all the looted gold and riches from India ...

The extra resources meant ... British Empire was growing and Ottoman was getting poorer by the day

Modern day comparison

USA going down , Going up ... Chinese China town in every major country of world...

thankfully to Germans/japanese ... british empire was halted

For the last 100 years or so , we are technically living in a "Sleep Mode"

We just don't teach history in our schools , we teach .. 2 page none sense

The last 100 years of Ottoman Empire were , mostly nothing more then the people in that civilization trying to reform , and make improvements in governments

a) The technological advantage was gone
b) Naval Sea routes had been given up or lost to Britain / France others
c) No one was paying taxes to Ottoman Empire
d) European ships were carrying goods via Sea with out paying any tax to Ottoman
e) There was high unemployment rate due to all issues mentioned above

So when Ottomans tried to build a rail track form India to Europe , world war 1 broke out as British did not want to lose $$$ and trade routes

And rest is history

We see glimpses of that fear with China now which is why ... we see America building bases around Russia and China

Roman Catholic Church had not much influence , the actions by British were merely a greed for money and Status ...

But post world war 2 , the decision to create Israel was religious / sentimental for British because they were almost "EXTINCT" if it was not for the propaganda campaign lead by Jews in US media / newspaper to get US involved in world wars

 

[Majnun]

quaid e azam just appreciated kemal like he appreciated other people, not that he was inspired by yours, kemal has nothing to do with present turkey let alone 'muslim world' if that was the case many muslim countries would have followed your so called holy kemal

Quaid-e-Azam was inspired by Ataturk and wished to implement similar reforms in his own society. In fact, it was from reading about Ataturk that he came back into politics, otherwise he had left politics in the 1930s. It is true that Ataturk was a more radical leader and implemented his reforms more militantly than Quaid-e-Azam would ever have, but Quaid-e-Azam still greatly respected and admired Ataturk.

 

[DADU]

I find it ironic that an old man retiring to a French villa, swimming in speedo shorts with an entourage of ladies watching. And having his own mistresses (including white French) is able to call himself caliph??

Don’t get me wrong i respect turkey and ottoman empire as great periods .

But that was a fake caliphate ,its only useful purpose was to shine the ottoman sultans in the eyes of Muslims.

When turkey declared a war it didn’t just declared a war it declared a “jihad”.

Thus Muslims from all over the world could be rallied and called upon to join this “jihad” .

Having Personal possessions of the prophet(pbh) or controlling Mecca, medina doesn’t entitle you to a caliphate.
Only the 1st 10 caliphs were the true caliphs.

Though since Ataturk came in there has been a struggle between black or dark turks vs white turks.

The dark Turks are the Turks from Anatolia who are the majority and the white Turks are from the European, Greek and Armenian parts of turkey.

White Turks tend to be secularists, while the dark ones are Muslims and favourably nationalists.

The dark Turks have won and may both nations continue to see prosperity in the future.

No disrespect intended ( writing from experience i have many Turk friends who are mainly Muslim)

Peace

 

[silko]

^^^^

where do you have this stupid info from?

 

[khalidwaleed]

Its good to reflect over history and learn from it but it is also important to look forward and not back, one of the reasons why the Muslim world lagged behind and still does is because we became so stuck in our past and so stagnant that we forgot to adapt with time.

totaly wrong , if muslim world is lagging behind, it is because Muslims tried to imitate the west and lost our identity.
one should always look back to the history before taking any decision and should study what happened in the past when similar decisions were taken.

what happened in kemalist era?

what was the glorious events of kemalist?

for the past 10 to 15 years Turkey is booming because it have started weaning from kamalist ideologies.

long live AKP and Tayyip Erdoğan.