California shooter studied at Al-Huda institute: teacher

[VCheng]

I had to smile here, and don't take this the wrong way, but your argument mirrors those who support some form of 'military led autocratic rule' that would 'clean the system' because 'Pakistan cannot afford to be patient and allow the democratic process to work out its kinks'.

Sir, the military and its use of religion is part of the core problem. Mopping the floor with a dirty mop ain't gonna clean it, ever.

 

[RoadRunner401]

I had to smile here, and don't take this the wrong way, but your argument mirrors those who support some form of 'military led autocratic rule' that would 'clean the system' because 'Pakistan cannot afford to be patient and allow the democratic process to work out its kinks'.

We are in this mess because of Military Inc. The only way forward for Pakistan, is to allow the democracy to flourish.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Sir, the military and its use of religion is part of the core problem. Mopping the floor with a dirty mop ain't gonna clean it, ever.

We are in this mess because of Military Inc. The only way forward for Pakistan, is to allow the democracy to flourish.

I agree - unconstitutional actions on the part of the military are by no means the solution.

We appear to have some form of a hybrid system in place right now where the elected government appears to have 'outsourced' some of the tactical decision making to the military in Karachi, FATA and Balochistan, that seems to to have delivered some short term success, but we really need the civilian government to develop and articulate a long term plan to address religious extremism and allow civilian LEA's to take responsibility for tactical actions from the military.

 

[VCheng]

I agree - unconstitutional actions on the part of the military are by no means the solution.

We appear to have some form of a hybrid system in place right now where the elected government appears to have 'outsourced' some of the tactical decision making to the military in Karachi, FATA and Balochistan, that seems to to have delivered some short term success, but we really need the civilian government to develop and articulate a long term plan to address religious extremism and allow civilian LEA's to take responsibility for tactical actions from the military.

Yes, the present "arrangement" has paid off some dividends in improving security, but it remains a patently illegal and nonviable system in the long run.

 

[airmarshal]

No sympathy for Mulla Burqa of Lal Masjid but I think this report of some official meeting Sharif in London, his real home, are not true.

In those days the American were and still are piecing together the evidence. It was too early then to point a definitive finger at Lal Masjid.

If you have come across Al-Huda women, they are arrogant, think of you as immoral and immodest and have a very high opinion of themselves. Many of them have a very condescending attitude towards 'goras'. To them they are immoral and worthless.

But they still choose to live in the west. Utilize fully the liberty and rights provided by these countries. Al Huda women talk to you as if what they know about Islam is definitive, complete absolute and no argument is entertained. They seem to have closed their minds as much as their faces behind their veils. This to me, is the first step to radicalization. Of course it does not lead to terrorism but it does open that avenue treading on which perverts the mind further.

I m no 'liberal' as is defined in Pakistan. I hate both extremes.