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Cables tie Pakistan to 2009 hit on CIA; official says not so
Published April 14, 2016
Associated Press

Recently declassified U.S. government cables suggest Pakistan's intelligence service paid a U.S.-designated terrorist organization $200,000 to carry out one of the deadliest attacks against the CIA in the spy agency's history.

But a U.S. intelligence official said the information was uncorroborated and inconsistent with what is known about the 2009 suicide bombing at Camp Chapman in Khost, Afghanistan, near the Pakistani border.

Seven CIA employees were killed when a Jordanian doctor and double agent gained access to the base after tricking the Americans into believing he would lead them to Ayman al-Zawahri, then Al Qaeda's No. 2. The correspondence released by the National Security Archive at George Washington University dates to the weeks after the attack.

A Jan. 11, 2010, document says the head of the Haqqani network, a Taliban-allied group the U.S. considers terrorists, held two meetings with senior officials of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence the month of the bombing.

"The first discussed funding for operations in Khowst province" and "funds were later provided to tribal elders in Khowst province for their support of the Haqqani network," the cable says, using an alternative spelling for the area. At the second meeting, Pakistani intelligence officials gave "direction to the Haqqanis to expedite attack preparations and lethality in Afghanistan."

A Feb. 6, 2010, cable, which like the other was heavily redacted, is more specific. Network leader Siraj Haqqani and another individual were provided $200,000, it says, "to enable the attack on Chapman." The document refers to several individuals involved in the plot, including an Afghan border commander, "to enable a suicide mission by an unnamed Jordanian national."

The Jordanian would have been Humam al-Balawi, the supposed Al Qaeda turncoat whom the CIA codenamed "Wolf." As the CIA ushered him on to its base on Dec. 30, 2009, al-Balawi detonated a suicide bomb. A Jordanian intelligence official and an Afghan driver also died, while six people were injured. It was the most lethal attack against the CIA in the 15-year Afghanistan war and possibly since the 1983 embassy bombing in Beirut.

The reports aren't authoritative. Each one states: "This is an information report, not finally evaluated intelligence."

The U.S. intelligence official described the information as a "raw, unverified and uncorroborated report" that clashes with the general consensus of the attack as primarily an Al Qaeda plot, and not one that involved the Haqqani network. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Pakistan's embassy in Washington had no immediate comment on the cables.

The U.S. has long cited the links between the Pakistani intelligence and the Haqqanis, a group that includes criminal and insurgency elements, and which uses Pakistani territory as a rear operating base. When Adm. Mike Mullen stepped down as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 3 1/2 years ago, he went so far as to call the network a "veritable arm" of Pakistan's ISI.

But no evidence of Pakistani funding of the group for the Camp Chapman attack had previously surfaced publicly. The source of the information on both cables is unclear. The National Security Archive received the documents after a Freedom of Information Act request.

One hand extended for a hand-out. The other to stab us in the back.:usflag:
 
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The US still needs Pakistan...nothing will come of this for now.
 
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The first line says "suggest". This is all based on a suggestion with no proof. It is not worth the paper it is written on. We should be careful of hostile propaganda built on suggestions.
 
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Cables tie Pakistan to 2009 hit on CIA; official says not so
Published April 14, 2016
Associated Press

Recently declassified U.S. government cables suggest Pakistan's intelligence service paid a U.S.-designated terrorist organization $200,000 to carry out one of the deadliest attacks against the CIA in the spy agency's history.

But a U.S. intelligence official said the information was uncorroborated and inconsistent with what is known about the 2009 suicide bombing at Camp Chapman in Khost, Afghanistan, near the Pakistani border.

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The reports aren't authoritative. Each one states: "This is an information report, not finally evaluated intelligence."

The U.S. intelligence official described the information as a "raw, unverified and uncorroborated report" that clashes with the general consensus of the attack as primarily an Al Qaeda plot, and not one that involved the Haqqani network. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak publicly on the matter.


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But no evidence of Pakistani funding of the group for the Camp Chapman attack had previously surfaced publicly. The source of the information on both cables is unclear. The National Security Archive received the documents after a Freedom of Information Act request.

One hand extended for a hand-out. The other to stab us in the back.:usflag:

The title of your thread should be "someone somewhere said to someone that ISI is tied to the hit on the CIA (or not. we don't really know)"
It would better reflect the article's content

@Horus
 
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Cables tie Pakistan to 2009 hit on CIA; official says not so
Published April 14, 2016
Associated Press

Recently declassified U.S. government cables suggest Pakistan's intelligence service paid a U.S.-designated terrorist organization $200,000 to carry out one of the deadliest attacks against the CIA in the spy agency's history.

But a U.S. intelligence official said the information was uncorroborated and inconsistent with what is known about the 2009 suicide bombing at Camp Chapman in Khost, Afghanistan, near the Pakistani border.

Seven CIA employees were killed when a Jordanian doctor and double agent gained access to the base after tricking the Americans into believing he would lead them to Ayman al-Zawahri, then Al Qaeda's No. 2. The correspondence released by the National Security Archive at George Washington University dates to the weeks after the attack.

A Jan. 11, 2010, document says the head of the Haqqani network, a Taliban-allied group the U.S. considers terrorists, held two meetings with senior officials of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence the month of the bombing.

"The first discussed funding for operations in Khowst province" and "funds were later provided to tribal elders in Khowst province for their support of the Haqqani network," the cable says, using an alternative spelling for the area. At the second meeting, Pakistani intelligence officials gave "direction to the Haqqanis to expedite attack preparations and lethality in Afghanistan."

A Feb. 6, 2010, cable, which like the other was heavily redacted, is more specific. Network leader Siraj Haqqani and another individual were provided $200,000, it says, "to enable the attack on Chapman." The document refers to several individuals involved in the plot, including an Afghan border commander, "to enable a suicide mission by an unnamed Jordanian national."

The Jordanian would have been Humam al-Balawi, the supposed Al Qaeda turncoat whom the CIA codenamed "Wolf." As the CIA ushered him on to its base on Dec. 30, 2009, al-Balawi detonated a suicide bomb. A Jordanian intelligence official and an Afghan driver also died, while six people were injured. It was the most lethal attack against the CIA in the 15-year Afghanistan war and possibly since the 1983 embassy bombing in Beirut.

The reports aren't authoritative. Each one states: "This is an information report, not finally evaluated intelligence."

The U.S. intelligence official described the information as a "raw, unverified and uncorroborated report" that clashes with the general consensus of the attack as primarily an Al Qaeda plot, and not one that involved the Haqqani network. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Pakistan's embassy in Washington had no immediate comment on the cables.

The U.S. has long cited the links between the Pakistani intelligence and the Haqqanis, a group that includes criminal and insurgency elements, and which uses Pakistani territory as a rear operating base. When Adm. Mike Mullen stepped down as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 3 1/2 years ago, he went so far as to call the network a "veritable arm" of Pakistan's ISI.

But no evidence of Pakistani funding of the group for the Camp Chapman attack had previously surfaced publicly. The source of the information on both cables is unclear. The National Security Archive received the documents after a Freedom of Information Act request.

One hand extended for a hand-out. The other to stab us in the back.:usflag:
Yes we attack them( a super power) and then they give us billions of dollars, sounds very legit

And for Haqqanis, they are American creation we are not totally responsible for them.Americans should have neautralised them and Osama when they had a chance and they had already used them.
Reagan+with+Taliban.jpg


Every terrorist in afghanistan has a history with USA
 
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One line from one anonymous guy and then paragraphs giving dates, names and places. HAHAHAHAHA !!!! The End. :rofl:
No need to fret. There are three possibilities.

(i) That United States government with all it's myriad agencies with budgets larger then some countries in it's collective genius has failed to apprehend the truth (that Pakistan is guilty) which apparently is obvious (as in this "evidence") and is clear to all and sundry including experts here at PDF.

(ii) That United States knows the truth but in the geopolitical calculus the measure of benefit from Pakistan as a ally outweighs the measure of a Pakistan as a enemy.

(iii) That United States is aware that one titbit doth not maketh for proof of guilt.

If it is the first then you have far, far, far bigger problems than Pakistan to contend with. Your government is frigged, good and proper. If it is second well, it's just business sucker. I though happen to go with the third option.
 
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JamD, are you trying to snitch on me by tagging Horus ? Is THAT the way you roll ? MEOW, MEOW !!!:nana:
I am doing my part to keep the forum free of misleading thread titles such as these. No need to get personal, emotional and lose your dignity. Perhaps you should've used the entire title of the actual article.
 
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1985 ? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Do you think Reagan was psychic and could see 30 years into the future and figure out that the ISI would take the Taliban under their wing, hide Bin Laden and support a whole bunch of other terrorists, like the Mumbai gang ? :rofl:

I am doing my part to keep the forum free of misleading thread titles such as these. No need to get personal, emotional and lose your dignity. Perhaps you should've used the entire title of the actual article.

Nothing 'emotional'. My dignity is fine. But you might want to check on yours.Now go cry for your mommie, junior:nana:
 
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Spy games a very difficult to proof...the closest you can get is "alleged" and "Suspect"
 
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already posted n answered.

Proud of ISI

@boomslang ....... When History will be written it will be said that ISI with the help of America defeated the Soviat Union in Afghanistan and another sentence will be added that ISI with the help of America defeated America in Afghanistan; Late Lieutenant General (R) Hameed Gul. D.G. ISI (1987-1989)

Im glad that none but u people yrself are proving it.

This further vindicates that ISI has minds of geniuses.
 
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Cables tie Pakistan to 2009 hit on CIA; official says not so
Published April 14, 2016
Associated Press

Recently declassified U.S. government cables suggest Pakistan's intelligence service paid a U.S.-designated terrorist organization $200,000 to carry out one of the deadliest attacks against the CIA in the spy agency's history.

But a U.S. intelligence official said the information was uncorroborated and inconsistent with what is known about the 2009 suicide bombing at Camp Chapman in Khost, Afghanistan, near the Pakistani border.

Seven CIA employees were killed when a Jordanian doctor and double agent gained access to the base after tricking the Americans into believing he would lead them to Ayman al-Zawahri, then Al Qaeda's No. 2. The correspondence released by the National Security Archive at George Washington University dates to the weeks after the attack.

A Jan. 11, 2010, document says the head of the Haqqani network, a Taliban-allied group the U.S. considers terrorists, held two meetings with senior officials of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence the month of the bombing.

"The first discussed funding for operations in Khowst province" and "funds were later provided to tribal elders in Khowst province for their support of the Haqqani network," the cable says, using an alternative spelling for the area. At the second meeting, Pakistani intelligence officials gave "direction to the Haqqanis to expedite attack preparations and lethality in Afghanistan."

A Feb. 6, 2010, cable, which like the other was heavily redacted, is more specific. Network leader Siraj Haqqani and another individual were provided $200,000, it says, "to enable the attack on Chapman." The document refers to several individuals involved in the plot, including an Afghan border commander, "to enable a suicide mission by an unnamed Jordanian national."

The Jordanian would have been Humam al-Balawi, the supposed Al Qaeda turncoat whom the CIA codenamed "Wolf." As the CIA ushered him on to its base on Dec. 30, 2009, al-Balawi detonated a suicide bomb. A Jordanian intelligence official and an Afghan driver also died, while six people were injured. It was the most lethal attack against the CIA in the 15-year Afghanistan war and possibly since the 1983 embassy bombing in Beirut.

The reports aren't authoritative. Each one states: "This is an information report, not finally evaluated intelligence."

The U.S. intelligence official described the information as a "raw, unverified and uncorroborated report" that clashes with the general consensus of the attack as primarily an Al Qaeda plot, and not one that involved the Haqqani network. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Pakistan's embassy in Washington had no immediate comment on the cables.

The U.S. has long cited the links between the Pakistani intelligence and the Haqqanis, a group that includes criminal and insurgency elements, and which uses Pakistani territory as a rear operating base. When Adm. Mike Mullen stepped down as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 3 1/2 years ago, he went so far as to call the network a "veritable arm" of Pakistan's ISI.

But no evidence of Pakistani funding of the group for the Camp Chapman attack had previously surfaced publicly. The source of the information on both cables is unclear. The National Security Archive received the documents after a Freedom of Information Act request.

One hand extended for a hand-out. The other to stab us in the back.:usflag:

You didn't provide the link/source of this article? Where is the link?
 
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