By the start of 2023, Ukraine's population has fallen back down to 1940 level (excluding Crimea because Ukraine didn't have Crimea until 1954)

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

It is a model number. Actual number is less because 8 million Ukrainians fled Ukraine since February 2022.

Ukraine Population (2024) - Worldometer

Population of Ukraine: current, historical, and projected population, growth rate, immigration, median age, total fertility rate (TFR), population density, urbanization, urban population, country's share of world population, and global rank. Data tables, maps, charts, and live population clock

www.worldometers.info

 

[Oldman1]

It is a model number. Actual number is less because 8 million Ukrainians fled Ukraine since February 2022.

Ukraine Population (2024) - Worldometer

Population of Ukraine: current, historical, and projected population, growth rate, immigration, median age, total fertility rate (TFR), population density, urbanization, urban population, country's share of world population, and global rank. Data tables, maps, charts, and live population clock

www.worldometers.info

Well the thing is that the Ukrainians can come back when the war is over. Right now many are working in factories building weapons and shipping them into Ukraine.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Well the thing is that the Ukrainians can come back when the war is over. Right now many are working in factories building weapons and shipping them into Ukraine.

Only if Biden is president. And he won't be president forever.

 

[Oldman1]

Only if Biden is president. And he won't be president forever.

No guarantee. For example after Bush, Obama continued the war in Afghanistan. So just cause we elect a different President doesn't mean their policy may change. Even from Bush to Biden, they still try to kill Al Qaeda. Death of Osama Bin Laden to death Al Wazahiri in second in command after 20 years.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

No guarantee. For example after Bush, Obama continued the war in Afghanistan. So just cause we elect a different President doesn't mean their policy may change. Even from Bush to Biden, they still try to kill Al Qaeda. Death of Osama Bin Laden to death Al Wazahiri in second in command after 20 years.

They never spent so much money like Biden did. They spent only a small fraction of what Biden spent. Not to mention GOP took back the House and the House controls budget.

 

[Oldman1]

They never spent so much money like Biden did. They spent only a small fraction of what Biden spent. Not to mention GOP took back the House and the House controls budget.

They spent hundreds of billions of dollars hunting down Al Qaeda especially over past 2 decades from ME to Afghanistan and in other countries like Yemen and Somalia.