BVR missiles to be test fires from Tejas in July

[SP!TF!R3]

Python is AAM and near BVR, Tejas is also integrated with R73. And BVR for now will be I-Derby ER ( around 100 KM range). Astra is stll in development and will take some time for refinements. Once that's done it will also be mated with Tejas.

I-Derby ER – All New Performance | Paris Air Show 2015 content from Aviation Week

Actually,Astra is mated with Tejas.

 

[I M Sikander]

Sun rising from West is possible but A thread about Tejas and we do not have Pakis foul mouthing and Pakistan actually making a moped engine is not possible.

When was the last time you guys contribute an iota of RnD for Chinese FC 1. Donn bother answering that question. I know it's null, nada, nothing, ziltch. For heavens sake you guys cannot even make tires for its landing gear. Like you people know anything other than Unboxing,riveting & painting . Those three words describe are your entire aircraft building experience.

And you guys had to rush those toys to deployment in IOC standard because you did not had anything better to field in numbers. If I am not mistaken FOC for JF17 still not achieved yet right ?? For morons who still will argue on this point, let me explain this in your language. It's like car which you got straight out from the assembly line. When you got your car it just had 4 wheels,steering column and seats. Everything else will be put in it at a latter date. It was a car ,for sure when you inducted it, but alebit incomplete when you compare it to the features available and the one written on the can. There is no pride in inducting a "Fighter" which can't even fire a BVR or drop bombs.

Lastly why didn't your Father and the actual developer induct this in it's arsenal ?? Bcoz they know it s FoookingCrap(of grade)1 even your decision makers though of a name came up with JunkFighter17(th Version) !!

The picture says it all.

Stop giving childish examples of cars to validate your nonsense logic.
Go and do some home work on jf17 before posting utter nonsense, which makes you a laughing material in forums.

 

[Matrixx]

IAF is asking too much....first start using Tejas and then add all these weapons

 

[SP!TF!R3]

LOL.

JF-17 block I's was integrated with WVR and BVR missiles. Stop living in fool's paradise. We have videos of JF-17 firing BVRs and we have confirmation of director of JF-17 program stating that JF-17's default deployment across PAF bases was "2 BVRs, 2 WVRs, and three fuel tanks"....and the interviewer asked if JF-17 was ready? to which answer was "If you mean ready as in to go up, engage enemy planes, and fire at them with its weaponry? Then yes, its absolutely ready"....

But offcourse, you "missed" that interview and continued to believe in your blogs...

JF-17 is battle ready, has participated in exercises, and has secured export orders. Period.

Tejas isn't ready and is far behind JF-17. Period.

All JF-17s would be converted to block II standards with upgraded avionics, increased radar ranges and modes, and new weapon-systems (air-to-sea primarily).

We already have produced 8,7 JF-17 block IIs....while Tejas still has to go under BVR testing..LMFAO!!!!

JF-17 is yet to get FOC,though inducted into PAF 8 years ago.Thats an embarrassment.

 

[Matrixx]

Pakistan still have to develop its own fighter plane...we are developing our first fighter plane

Before you bring JF17 ...hope you know its know FC1 which is 100% developed by china and since it was a such disappointed and hopeless plane that China sold it Pakistan in the name of JF17.....and China never used it or inducted in Air force.

 

[I M Sikander]

Well, As chinese media pointed out Tejas is fighter of tomorrow and JF17 is fighter of today. Well, the manufacturing technology of tejas is lot different from JF17, the avionics, the subsystems are lot different.

Still living in fools paradise. Tejas is definately an aircraft of tomorrow. Because it is still under trial and yet ti be inducted.
Whereas paf has 2 complete sqrd of thunder in full operational form.
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* You can fit AESA to JF17 soon but the big question you will get is whether the existing engine is capable of providing enough power .

Stop worrying about aesa on thunder and first fit aesa on your lca.
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* You can claim JF17 has a ferry range of 3400 Km and Combat range of 1500 km and say Tejas has just 500 Km combat range.

but do the math = 3400/2 = 1700 so at a max JF 17 can go 1700 km from its air base and return with all external fuel tanks , so if there are no fuel tanks you will get <1000 km , may be 500 to 600 Km effective range.
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Who need your kindergarten mathematics to assess jf17 capabilities.
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* you can claim JF17 is inducted in large number , but the point is it did not replace F16 from your airforce, it just replaced a mig 19 derived fighter bomber. THe day JF17 replaces F16 you can claim it as super dooper, still Pakistan imports second hand f16 why ?
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Who told you that JF 17 will replace F16.
In that case according to your logic lca will take the role of rafale, mirage and sukhoi.



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So wait in 10 year we will have more Tejas in our navy than PAF having JF17.

My goodness ,you are such an immature fan boy of lca.
Stop making nonsense claims and first get FOC for this crap called lca.
By the way who idiot told you that IN will induct lca in hundreds. IN has proposed to only induct 50 lca.
Go and do some home work.

 

[Indian Patriot]

Looks like many generation of scientists will come before this fighter in finally inducted

Tejas, Arjun, Pinaka etc. are all cash-cows for DRDO. The longer these projects take to materialise the more money the DRDO can fleece from the GOI. After all DRDO people also have to look after their pockets and feed their families.

 

[I M Sikander]

Pakistan still have to develop its own fighter plane...we are developing our first fighter plane .

Keep on reinventing the wheel. I hope one day HAL will be able yo satisfy its one and only customer iaf .
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china and since it was a such disappointed and hopeless plane that China sold it Pakistan in the name of JF17.....and China never used it or inducted in Air force.

Paf is the prime customer not chinese airforce.
And by the way Chinese and paf are so much dissappointed with thunder that they started marketing this jet in air shows around the world and even got its export orders.
Whereas your lca is still waiting for its FOC.

 

[Indian Patriot]

IAF is asking too much....first start using Tejas and then add all these weapons

Asking too much? LOL!!

What is the point of flying tejas if it cannot fire any weapons?

 

[surya kiran]

Tejas, Arjun, Pinaka etc. are all cash-cows for DRDO. The longer these projects take to materialise the more money the DRDO can fleece from the GOI. After all DRDO people also have to look after their pockets and feed their families.

Hey FOOL,

Where is your answer of the 4th Generation Nag, CAG report on Arjun, Kaveri not being embagroed, artillery not being produced and INSAS. LOOOSER!

DUMASS FOOL. I know you have blocked me. But its so much fun trolling you in every thread for others to see what all you claimed.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

The issue is with cone...not the radar... The cone reduces the range of radar not increases it...and there is no EL/M-2032 radar ''integrated'' on Tejas yet...its running aroung with a local one...Please look for good indian articles regarding tejas....Don't tell us what will tejas get in future...Talk about what it is now....present..

MMR radar was integrated back on LSP-3 .
U can get elta range on open net sources anywhere if u don't believe me.

 

[Mustang06]

Best of luck



How about Pappu and bunty?

There is nothing wrong with the name, all you guys need to do is improve your management in HAL and clearly it is a big miss management faults



Our program is working according to our plan and our 2 sdq is for land base attack role and that is why you guys didn't saw BVR on that and IFR is an additional options and have nothing to do with plane lethal capabilities and our many f16 don't have that and doesn't mean that f16 is not a good fighter.

This is first sensible reply I have in a Tejas thread!

 

[Trisonics]

The picture says it all.

Stop giving childish examples of cars to validate your nonsense logic.
Go and do some home work on jf17 before posting utter nonsense, which makes you a laughing material in forums.

There is no need for any Home Work. Comparing the development and production cycles for Tejas and JF 17 are like comparing Apples and Oranges. India and Pakistan decided to go on different routes for their respective projects. The goals are different too.

India wants an eco system where it has capabilities to design, test and build aircraft whereas Pakistan wanted a sanction free project that It can control, repair and have part ownership, they are two separate roads. India has built so many parts of the eco-system that do not get enough news. Search and you will find technical papers on many aspects of Tejas even in some journal papers. Testing environment was something we did not have, today we can claim to have good resources. Same story with composites. Engine was a failure as far as Tejas is concerned but is already a stepping stone. We even have gained experience in cultivating test pilots, making displays, reasonable success with radars.

Ever wondered why Pak cannot even build a two seater version of the JF 17? or full FBW or weapon systems or radar or engine? Why should you depend on China for everything? Answer is above, since you really did not want that capability but wanted to have a stake in the project with some input provided on how its should turn up to be at the design stage. India on the other hand took a very ambitious route and has met reasonable success. How they take off from here will be the key.

Hence, makes little sense in comparing the two, heck, I doubt even if the JF 17s manufactured in Pak are from raw-materials, they are knocked down kits from China that are assembled.

The only reasonable thing one can compare are the final products, that is the aircraft themselves because the project plans and goals for both are not the same.

 

[AUz]

JF-17 is yet to get FOC,though inducted into PAF 8 years ago.Thats an embarrassment.

Nothing is more embarrassing than producing a junk fighter that can't even fly even after 25 years

And who told you JF-17 doesn't have FOC? your "bhartratsh!t" forum that nobody goes to and you inferior indians come here to interact with us superior Pakistanis and feel happy? LOL.

 

[SP!TF!R3]

Nothing is more embarrassing than producing a junk fighter that can't even fly even after 25 years

And who told you JF-17 doesn't have FOC? your "bhartratsh!t" forum that nobody goes to and you inferior indians come here to interact with us superior Pakistanis and feel happy? LOL.

That shows the extent of your knowledge..

Ask @Oscar about FOC of JF-17..he himself said that JF-17 is under development and as not every component is integrated and tested,so JF-17 didn't get FOC yet.

Ignorance is a bliss until you poke others..