Business life stirring in those 'ghost' cities :)

[TaiShang]

What I know about those "ghost cities" is that they were built too fast before the people moved in but they suit the requirements eventually. And the core buildings and streets were built before other facilities like water and electricity were developed which gives an impression that there a significant number of unoccupied buildings but in reality they are only cities waiting to be populared once they are completed.

Exactly. The purpose is, given China's fast pace of urbanization and the potential, to prevent large scale slum development in China's cities. One needs to do this proactively, hence the impression of empty buildings.

I do not know how else to carry out urbanization? Let people move in, set up shackles and slums, and then destroy and dislocate those people and then build the homes and other structures?

I guess China simply does not want to become an India or Brazil 2.0.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Exactly. The purpose is, given China's fast pace of urbanization and the potential, to prevent large scale slum development in China's cities. One needs to do this proactively, hence the impression of empty buildings.

I do not know how else to carry out urbanization? Let people move in, set up shackles and slums, and then destroy and dislocate those people and then build the homes and other structures?

I guess China simply does not want to become an India or Brazil 2.0.

Yes, when those 10+ million people move to the urban cities every single year, we want to have the infrastructure in place to accomodate them. Housing, roads, water, electricity, hospitals, schools, and *shock* yes toilets too.

Not just inject them directly into slums. When has that ever had a good result?

What will happen (as we have seen in other places) is that they get used to the slums, and refuse to be moved. And often the slums will be located in PRIME real estate, in the middle of major cities for example.

What do you do then? Forcibly remove them in order to make room for infrastructure building? Or just leave them there and become famous for them like Mumbai?

Why not build the infrastructure FIRST? Then you avoid that whole mess. Except that people will start crying about "ghost cities".... even though our infrastructure per capita is still way behind developed countries. How are we ever supposed to become a developed country if we don't build up our infrastructure base?

 

[TaiShang]

What will happen (as we have seen in other places) is that they get used to the slums, and refuse to be moved. And often the slums will be located in PRIME real estate, in the middle of major cities for example.

Plus all the crime, dirt, and filth that are associated with slums. Especially in populist polities like India, allowing slum development and granting legal papers for illegal land occupations is a significant source of loyal vote. But this only worsens the situation. Once those people are settled in slums built on illegal land, it is damn hard to move them away. And most politicians won't do that for the sake of vote.

Thankfully, China is not India and there is no Mumbai in China. Those cities are really eye-sores, to say the least.

 

[ghoul]

I don't know why westerners' arse is on fire because of China's rise. It is all natural. Chinese civilization has always outclassed the west in terms economy and science and technology throughout the history.

 

[cirr]

Plus all the crime, dirt, and filth that are associated with slums. Especially in populist polities like India, allowing slum development and granting legal papers for illegal land occupations is a significant source of loyal vote. But this only worsens the situation. Once those people are settled in slums built on illegal land, it is damn hard to move them away. And most politicians won't do that for the sake of vote.

Thankfully, China is not India and there is no Mumbai in China. Those cities are really eye-sores, to say the least.

There are plenty of tier-3 cities in China that look and function way better than Mumbai.

Suzhou，a prefecture-level city and hence also a tier-3 city，has far far greater GDP than Mumbai does。