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President Bush said Wednesday he would order U.S. forces to go after Osama bin Laden inside Pakistan if he received good intelligence on the fugitive al Qaeda leader's location.

"Absolutely," Bush told CNN's Wolf Blitzer in an interview scheduled for air Wednesday afternoon.

Although Pakistan has said it won't allow U.S. troops to operate within its territory, "we would take the action necessary to bring him to justice."

But Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, told reporters Wednesday at the United Nations that his government would oppose any U.S. action in its territory.

"We wouldn't like to allow that at all. We will do it ourselves," he said.

A January airstrike on suspected al Qaeda figures on the Pakistan border provoked protests by tens of thousands of Pakistanis and complaints by Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, who said U.S. officials launched the attack without consulting his government.

Bin Laden's followers killed nearly 3,000 Americans in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania on September 11, 2001. In response, the United States and its allies overthrew Afghanistan's ruling Taliban, which had allowed al Qaeda to operate within its territory -- but bin Laden slipped the U.S. noose and is believed by many to be hiding in the rugged mountains along the Afghan-Pakistani border five years later.

Pakistani authorities recently signed a peace agreement with pro-Taliban tribal leaders in the country's restive northwest after two years of clashes with the traditionally autonomous tribes that left more than 600 Pakistani troops dead. But Aziz told CNN earlier this month that top terrorist leaders like bin Laden would have "no immunity" under the agreement.

"This notion that anybody who has a record as a terrorist will get safe haven -- we would not even think of doing that," he said.

U.S. and NATO troops are now battling a Taliban resurgence in southeastern Afghanistan, and both Afghan and Pakistani officials have accused each other of not doing enough to capture pro-Taliban militants sneaking across the border.

Bush: Ahmadinejad 'knows the options before him'
Bush on Wednesday also defended his decision not to meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the United Nations this week, telling CNN that Ahmadinejad "knows the options before him." (Watch President Bush explain why he takes Ahmadinejad's words seriously -- :27)

The U.N. Security Council has called on Iran to stop its uranium enrichment efforts, which the Bush administration says are aimed at developing nuclear weapons. Iran says it wants to produce fuel for civilian power plants, and it has so far refused to halt enrichment.

Bush said the United States has agreed to talks with Iran "only if they verifiably suspended their enrichment program.

"He knows the options before him. I've made that very clear," he said. "In order for there to be effective diplomacy you can't keep changing your word."

European negotiators are trying to reach an agreement with the Iranians that will stay the threat of U.N. sanctions against Iran for flouting the Security Council's demand while talks toward a permanent resolution continue. But Bush said that "time is of the essence," and he is concerned that Tehran is "trying to buy time" in the dispute.

Both Bush and Ahmadinejad addressed the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday -- Bush in the morning, Ahmadinejad in the evening.

Bush addressed the Iranian people directly during his speech, telling them that Americans "respect" their country and that they "deserve an opportunity to determine your own future.

"The greatest obstacle to this future is that your rulers have chosen to deny you liberty and to use your nation's resources to fund terrorism and fuel extremism and pursue nuclear weapons," he said. "Despite what the regime tells you, we have no objection to Iran's pursuit of a truly peaceful nuclear power program."

The United States and Iran have not had diplomatic ties since 1979, when Iranian militants, who had overthrown the U.S.-backed Shah Mohammed Palavi, seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and held American diplomats hostage for more than a year. Bush labeled Iran part of an "axis of evil" in 2002, along with Iraq -- which the United States invaded the following year -- and North Korea.

In his speech, Ahmadinejad criticized what he called the "abuse" of the Security Council by "hegemonic powers." He mentioned the United States by name only once during his speech, but criticized major powers he said "seek to rule the world relying on weapons and threats.

"All of our nuclear activities are transparent, peaceful and under the watchful eyes of the IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency] inspectors," he said. "Why, then, are there objections to our legally recognized rights? Which governments object to these rights? Governments that themselves benefit from nuclear energy."

The White House said Bush did not watch the Iranian leader's speech. Asked whether he found anything encouraging in it, the president said, "Not really."

Ahmadinejad's speech was more restrained than previous addresses in which the Iranian president has questioned the existence of the Holocaust and called for the Israel's eradication.

Referring to those comments, Bush said, "My judgment is you've got to take everybody's word seriously in this world.

"You can't just hope for the best," he said. "You've got to assume that the leader, when he says that he would like to destroy Israel, means what he says. If you say, 'Well, gosh, maybe he doesn't mean it,' and you turn out to be wrong, you have not done your duty as a world leader."

The president is not the highest authority in Iran, which is an Islamic republic led by religious clerics.

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This is not a war on terror this is a war against Islam.

Mushy ko bhi samjh ayi ho gi chamcha gerri ki

A war is coming to our country or would the loyal mushy avert it by allowing US troops to operate inside Pakistan.
 
Mushy's foreign policy has failed badly

No country would allow any other army to operate in its territory
 
Mushy's foreign policy has failed badly

How so? Please enlighten us all. Also remind me which other Pakistani leader has not collaborated with the US and while you do so, please tell me which other leader of Pakistan would have been successful in terms of foreign policy in such situation?

In addition, please tell me why would Bush not say that when asked a pointed question about Bin Laden being sighted in Pakistan by intelligence?
 
How so? Please enlighten us all. Also remind me which other Pakistani leader has not collaborated with the US and while you do so, please tell me which other leader of Pakistan would have been successful in terms of foreign policy in such situation?

Had there been democracy in Pakistan things would have been different

In addition, please tell me why would Bush not say that when asked a pointed question about Bin Laden being sighted in Pakistan by intelligence?

Mushy could atleast issued a strong statement
 
Had there been democracy in Pakistan things would have been different

It was during Nawaz Sharif's democracy when the US launched the Cruise missile strikes against Pakistani northwest. How were things any different then? It was during Nawaz Sharif's democracy that a CIA funded Pakistani unit with recently retired operators from the SSG were being trained to go and hunt OBL.
It was during the BB's democracy when she started the process of nuclear roll back and was told to shove her efforts by no less than Gen Abdul Waheed Kakar.

Democracy provides no protection against such situations, rather security (economic and military) against coercive diplomacy by the major powers is what matters.


Mushy could atleast issued a strong statement
In a rare face off, US President George W Bush has threatened to send American forces in pursuit of Osama bin Laden.

His threat invited a firm refusal by President Pervez Musharraf who said his troops were capable of doing the job themselves.

Responding to a question if he would order US forces to go after bin Laden in Pakistan if he received good intelligence on the fugitive al Qaeda leader's location, President Bush in an interview on Wednesday said "absolutely".

"We would take action necessary to bring him (bin Laden) to justice," said Bush, who is meeting Musharraf at the White House next week.

Later addressing a press conference, Musharraf said that he would not allow the sovereignty of his country to be breached by the US.

"We will do it ourselves. We are able to do everything, wherever we locate anybody. There have been many such occasions where we have located al Qaeda or Taliban activity and we have struck with full force very successfully," Musharraf said when asked about Bush's comment.


Bush praised the Pakistani President for his efforts to dismantle al Qaeda terror network. (PTI)

http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?slug=US+to+send+troops+to+Pak:+Bush++++&id=93559

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I think he was plenty forcefull in his rebuttal.
 
I trust mushy, he is our leader and I hope he protects our sovereinty. If he lets the US on our soil what next? Indian troops looking for terrorist in azad kashmir?
 
I trust mushy, he is our leader and I hope he protects our sovereinty. If he lets the US on our soil what next? Indian troops looking for terrorist in azad kashmir?

Kaiser, this thread leads to the one about US threatened to Bomb Pakistan. We should either merge threads or something...:smile: whatcha say?
 
I trust mushy, he is our leader

We should always question our leaders, never trust them; that is when they go corrupt.
 
Just to make the Yankees happy. Its not bad to have a small unit of American soldiers inside the Pakistani territory. What is so bad that we can't allow the Yankees in our country? If they want to be the hunters let them be, let them have a taste of something more dangerous than Iraq. I bet even if we allow them, they wouldn't even get a chance to fire a single bullet aiming at an enemy. The most they can do would be firing some rounds to show their fire power.
 
The most they can do would be firing some rounds to show their fire power.

Which might land on some wedding in village and will be termed as collateral damage.
 
Mushy's foreign policy has failed badly.

No country would allow any other army to operate in its territory
No country would or should compromise its integrity or souvereignity but we're dealing here with a superpower so you can't fight him with might, all you have left is diplomacy.
Please be informed that GoP was only informed about the first raid on Afghanistan when the tomahawks were already en route to their target, an A.Q Military Camp in Southern Afghanistan.
Why was GoP not informed or even asked to authorise the use/abuse of its aerospace;
Due pro-AQ/Taliban elements in Islamabad which are very well present in Mush government aswell as in the opposition.
They might have leaked the vital info to Bin Laden.

Can't blame Mush for this.
 
Mushy's foreign policy has failed badly

No country would allow any other army to operate in its territory

I reserve this for today... In light of how Mush took the offensive to Bush on this, what do you think about his foreign policy now.

Please do take a look at the US threatened Pak thread and see my reply on how the US media has been covering Mush's glorious offensive. Bush will continue being chewed up for a while on this. It was even frontpage on Google News yesterday.
 
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