Bulgaria opts for Swedish Gripen combat jets

[Penguin]

Bulgaria To Restart Fighter Jet Acquisition Process
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bulgaria-to-restart-fighter-jet-acquisition-process.518843/

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=6809521

Bulgarian combatants refuse to practice flying the country's obsolete fighter aircraft from the Soviet era.

It is the latest battle in the conflict about what new plans Bulgaria will buy - a multi-billion contract for Swedish Saab is also at stake.

- In my eyes we do not look very serious. It has been a decade without we succeed in renewing our fighter plane, "said Momchil Milev, journalist with a focus on military and security issues at the Bulgarian newspaper Kapital Weekly.

The Natoland Bulgaria is still flying with Soviet MiG aircrafts, which was bought 28 years ago, when Bulgaria still belonged to the Warsaw Pact. Since this summer, Italian fighter aircraft have been helped to patrol Bulgaria - and thus also NATO's airspace.

Following a procurement that stood among the used US F-16 plan and the new Swedish Jas Gripenplan, the Bulgarian government announced last spring that it was leaning for the Swedish battle flight - a deal worth about SEK 7 billion.

Since then, the country has received a new government saying that the procurement must be restarted as errors have occurred in the previous process. According to journalist Momchil Milev, the issue is primarily a power struggle between Bulgaria's strong men: Premier Minister and former bodyguard Boiko Borisov from center right-wing Gerb, and President Rumen Radev, until recently Bulgaria's air force chief representing the country's socialist party.

During the week, the conflict has taken a new turn after pilots refused to exercise the old Russian plan for safety reasons. An action it is now rumored that President Radev, the former air force chief, is himself involved in.

What decision in the fighter selection will eventually be made is again an open question. To Sweden's advantage, says Momchil Milev, the Gripen is the cheaper alternative. Geopolitical considerations, on the other hand, could result in the NATO member Bulgaria chooses US fighters.

 

[BDforever]

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=6809521

Bulgarian combatants refuse to practice flying the country's obsolete fighter aircraft from the Soviet era.

It is the latest battle in the conflict about what new plans Bulgaria will buy - a multi-billion contract for Swedish Saab is also at stake.

- In my eyes we do not look very serious. It has been a decade without we succeed in renewing our fighter plane, "said Momchil Milev, journalist with a focus on military and security issues at the Bulgarian newspaper Kapital Weekly.

The Natoland Bulgaria is still flying with Soviet MiG aircrafts, which was bought 28 years ago, when Bulgaria still belonged to the Warsaw Pact. Since this summer, Italian fighter aircraft have been helped to patrol Bulgaria - and thus also NATO's airspace.

Following a procurement that stood among the used US F-16 plan and the new Swedish Jas Gripenplan, the Bulgarian government announced last spring that it was leaning for the Swedish battle flight - a deal worth about SEK 7 billion.

Since then, the country has received a new government saying that the procurement must be restarted as errors have occurred in the previous process. According to journalist Momchil Milev, the issue is primarily a power struggle between Bulgaria's strong men: Premier Minister and former bodyguard Boiko Borisov from center right-wing Gerb, and President Rumen Radev, until recently Bulgaria's air force chief representing the country's socialist party.

During the week, the conflict has taken a new turn after pilots refused to exercise the old Russian plan for safety reasons. An action it is now rumored that President Radev, the former air force chief, is himself involved in.

What decision in the fighter selection will eventually be made is again an open question. To Sweden's advantage, says Momchil Milev, the Gripen is the cheaper alternative. Geopolitical considerations, on the other hand, could result in the NATO member Bulgaria chooses US fighters.

what is the unit price NG version ? and will you sell it to BD ?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

what is the unit price NG version ? and will you sell it to BD ?

Sweden will pay around $72M per plane.
A deal normally includes a lot of other things like weaponry, training and
after sales support so the contract will typically amount to more.
How much more is of course dependant on what extras.

If BD wants to buy Swedish advanced weapons, someone will evaluate
how Bangladesh meet human rights criteria, and decide if it is OK or not.

 

[BDforever]

If BD wants to buy Swedish advanced weapons, someone will evaluate
how Bangladesh meet human rights criteria, and decide if it is OK or not.

that is lame excuse, Sweden ran after India to offer because the MRCA deal is big.
Money talks.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

that is lame excuse, Sweden ran after India to offer because the MRCA deal is big.
Money talks.

I did not say that the end result would be that Bangladesh would be rejected.
Pakistan has been rejected for a variety of reasons, where the sequence of military coups
is a drawback, but only one of the reasons. That is not absolute, since Thailand was allowed to buy. I don't have insight in all the reasons for rejecting Pakistan.
Some suggested that Swden is not selling Gripen to Muslim countries, but that is not true.
Indonesia would be allowed, but I doubt any countries in the Middle East would get approval.

 

[BDforever]

Some suggested that Swden is not selling Gripen to Muslim countries, but that is not true.

Even I would not believe that

 

[Imran Khan]

I did not say that the end result would be that Bangladesh would be rejected.
Pakistan has been rejected for a variety of reasons, where the sequence of military coups
is a drawback, but only one of the reasons. That is not absolute, since Thailand was allowed to buy. I don't have insight in all the reasons for rejecting Pakistan.
Some suggested that Swden is not selling Gripen to Muslim countries, but that is not true.
Indonesia would be allowed, but I doubt any countries in the Middle East would get approval.

you have something else to say we reject human rights bla bla bla go man have milk

Even I would not believe that

whatever you talk to him he will reply we reject we did not sold this that bla bla bla he lost his brain in real world total 6 countries operate this jet . he lost his memory since then

that is lame excuse, Sweden ran after India to offer because the MRCA deal is big.
Money talks.

if he is markeeting manager i will sya he is worse markeeting guy ever
tell him how is human rights how is your girls free how is alcohol free in your country first before buy a jet you pay for it chutiya sala

 

[BDforever]

you have something else to say we reject human rights bla bla bla go man have milk


whatever you talk to him he will reply we reject we did not sold this that bla bla bla he lost his brain in real world total 6 countries operate this jet . he lost his memory since then


if he is markeeting manager i will sya he is worse markeeting guy ever
tell him how is human rights how is your girls free how is alcohol free in your country first before buy a jet you pay for it chutiya sala

and forgets to mention that many countries rejected it as overpriced item

 

[Imran Khan]

and forgets to mention that many countries rejected it as overpriced item

he even don't know its not first priority of nations . fighter jets are something but nations need trade business and relations first . he think world will change policy to satisfy Sweden ? what the hack is Sweden ? USA ? or a super power ? i have read his hundreds of such BS posts and wasted my total many hours he start from grippen end on human rights and we reject we sanction we block sale . lolllllzzz in today market some 20+ brands in market you can go anywhere to buy a 4th or 4+gen fighter .

 

[ziaulislam]

I did not say that the end result would be that Bangladesh would be rejected.
Pakistan has been rejected for a variety of reasons, where the sequence of military coups
is a drawback, but only one of the reasons. That is not absolute, since Thailand was allowed to buy. I don't have insight in all the reasons for rejecting Pakistan.
Some suggested that Swden is not selling Gripen to Muslim countries, but that is not true.
Indonesia would be allowed, but I doubt any countries in the Middle East would get approval.

can you cut the bullshit, Pakistan never opted for gripen, opted for saab2000 got it multiple times
so, a country which openly refuses united nations resolution is the best country....
i mean Sweden had no problem selling to nazi, so why i am surprised...
i mean, do UN even mean anything to champions of human rights...

the whole nazi iron ore came from sweden

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6370240

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

can you cut the bullshit, Pakistan never opted for gripen, opted for saab2000 got it multiple times
so, a country which openly refuses united nations resolution is the best country....
i mean Sweden had no problem selling to nazi, so why i am surprised...
i mean, do UN even mean anything to champions of human rights...

the whole nazi iron ore came from sweden

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6370240

Musharraf asked about Gripen during his visit to Sweden, and was turned down immediately.
Noone said that PAF was even asked.

Sweden traded with both sides during the war, but did not sell Weapons.
This is well within limits for neutral countries.
Without Swedish ball bearings the production of bombers like the Lancaster would
have been crippled.
Making judgements based on Nazi crimes mostly revealed after the war is ridiculous.

 

[ziaulislam]

Musharraf asked about Gripen during his visit to Sweden, and was turned down immediately.
Noone said that PAF was even asked.

Sweden traded with both sides during the war, but did not sell Weapons.
This is well within limits for neutral countries.
Without Swedish ball bearings the production of bombers like the Lancaster would
have been crippled.
Making judgements based on Nazi crimes mostly revealed after the war is ridiculous.

Where is your source where mushi asked for it. This absolutely makes no sense why would someone buy gripen if f 16 is available

 

[ziaulislam]

Where is your source where mushi asked for it. This absolutely makes no sense why would someone buy gripen if f 16 is available

Last part wow...what do you mean after the war is over ???
War crimes are war crimes...how does sweden takes high ground on issues of weapons when today its supplying weapon to india whise PM till he was elected was dedignated as terroist and when it has hx of supplying weapons to nazis

being hypocritical is one thing but this is absolutely ridiculous....atleast the French don't pretend to take moral high ground and clearly state that they don't want to sell because of what India offers ..

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Last part wow...what do you mean after the war is over ???
War crimes are war crimes...how does sweden takes high ground on issues of weapons when today its supplying weapon to india whise PM till he was elected was dedignated as terroist and when it has hx of supplying weapons to nazis

being hypocritical is one thing but this is absolutely ridiculous....atleast the French don't pretend to take moral high ground and clearly state that they don't want to sell because of what India offers ..

India is a stable democracy, unlike Pakistan.
Here at PDF, it is clear that many Pakistanis prefer the military to rule the country.
India never had a military coup.

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...’t-sell-gripen-jets-to-pakistan-(july-8).html

"ISLAMABAD --- In a setback to Pakistan’s efforts to get new generation Swedish-made Gripen fighter planes, Stockholm has said that it will not sell any weapons or weapon-related equipment to Islamabad.

“There is no question of selling them weapons or anything directly related to weapons,” Swedish Foreign Minister Laila Freivalds said after her talks with visiting Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf in Stockholm yesterday.

Before his talks with Freivalds, Musharraf, who is currently on a tour of Scandinavian countries, said that Pakistan might be interested in purchasing JAS Gripen fighter planes from Sweden. “Pakistan is looking for a high-tech aircraft. Gripen is one of several alternatives,” he was quoted as saying by Swedish newswire TT. "