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Building up the case against PAKISTAN

The US/NATO doesnt have the stomach for this potential fight.....the Zionist and rightwing lobbies/Military Industrial Complex with their media are trying to set the stage for a demonisation and then conflict......I think they will fail miserably.......

more likely US/NATO have a good excuse to come out of this region with honor....if they have other designs then I'm afraid they will lose in the long term....
 
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The US/NATO doesnt have the stomach for this potential fight.....the Zionist and rightwing lobbies/Military Industrial Complex with their media are trying to set the stage for a demonisation and then conflict......I think they will fail miserably.......

more likely US/NATO have a good excuse to come out of this region with honor....if they have other designs then I'm afraid they will lose in the long term....
don't worry you have Isi and Pam army on your side not that they can do much but still add to numbers but don't count on them they can't even protect their garrison city
 
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don't worry you have Isi and Pam army on your side not that they can do much but still add to numbers but don't count on them they can't even protect their garrison city

I think they were all involved and colluded together...i.e a DRAMA staged? extracts from the following articles may indicate some light on this area.....

ref:Osama bin Laden dead: Pakistan played 'pivotal role' in operation to kill al-Qaeda leader - Telegraph


Lieutenant General Asad Durrani, former head of Pakistan's Intelligence Service also told the BBC it was "more likely" the Pakistani government did know about the raid.

"It is more likely that they did know as far as ISI concerned they had some idea about the presence and of course as far as the operation itself is concerned it is not conceivable that it was done without the involvement of Pakistani security forces at some stage maybe late enough but the indications are that they were involved and they were told they were in position," said Lieutenant General Durrani who was director general of the ISI in the 90s.

"The army chief was in his office, the cordons were turned around that particular place police as well as the military.

"The pakistani helicopters were also in the air so that indicates that they were involved but as far as the knowledge is concerned it is possible that the one would not know about him all the time, but small part of it did know the idea was that."

ref:Pakistan's military, the brunt of much of the speculation, has been largely quiet, although officials from the Inter-Services Intelligence have released some details about the raid based on interviews with Bin Laden relatives left behind by the US Navy Seal team.
A senior ISI official said that Bin Laden's 12-year-old daughter had witnessed her father being killed and confirmed his death. "She said she saw him being shot," said the official.

The official did not know the name of the girl, adding that between 18 and 19 people were in the compound at the time of the attack.

He said the ISI had raided the Abbottabad house as it was under construction in 2003 in search of Abu Faraj al-Libbi, an al-Qaida lieutenant who was eventually captured two years later.

But satellite imagery from 2004 shows an empty field on the site, and later images suggest that construction started a year later, shortly before US officials say Bin Laden and his family moved in.

Pakistan's role is coming under intense fire in the US Congress. Patrick Meehan, chair of a House subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence, expressed frustration, wondering aloud if the country was driven by "divided loyalty, complicity [or] incompetence". Democrat Jackie Speier called it "the elephant in the room".

Inside Pakistan, media coverage has focused on whether the government or military had advance knowledge of the raid – a sensitive issue given widespread anti-American sentiment and worries about breaches of sovereignty.

The foreign ministry statement said reports that US helicopters had taken off from Ghazi airbase inside Pakistan were "absolutely false and incorrect". It continued: "Neither any base or facility inside Pakistan was used by the US forces."

Questions have been raised about how US helicopters managed to enter Pakistani airspace, conduct a violent raid lasting 40 minutes, then return unhindered to Afghanistan.

The foreign ministry said the US choppers "made use of blind spots in the radar coverage due to hilly terrain", facilitated by "mountainous terrain, efficacious use of latest technology and 'nap of the earth' flying techniques".

Pakistan's military, the brunt of much of the speculation, has been largely quiet, although officials from the Inter-Services Intelligence have released some details about the raid based on interviews with Bin Laden relatives left behind by the US Navy Seal team.
A senior ISI official said that Bin Laden's 12-year-old daughter had witnessed her father being killed and confirmed his death. "She said she saw him being shot," said the official.

The official did not know the name of the girl, adding that between 18 and 19 people were in the compound at the time of the attack.

He said the ISI had raided the Abbottabad house as it was under construction in 2003 in search of Abu Faraj al-Libbi, an al-Qaida lieutenant who was eventually captured two years later.

But satellite imagery from 2004 shows an empty field on the site, and later images suggest that construction started a year later, shortly before US officials say Bin Laden and his family moved in.

Pakistan's role is coming under intense fire in the US Congress. Patrick Meehan, chair of a House subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence, expressed frustration, wondering aloud if the country was driven by "divided loyalty, complicity [or] incompetence". Democrat Jackie Speier called it "the elephant in the room".

Inside Pakistan, media coverage has focused on whether the government or military had advance knowledge of the raid – a sensitive issue given widespread anti-American sentiment and worries about breaches of sovereignty.

The foreign ministry statement said reports that US helicopters had taken off from Ghazi airbase inside Pakistan were "absolutely false and incorrect". It continued: "Neither any base or facility inside Pakistan was used by the US forces."

Questions have been raised about how US helicopters managed to enter Pakistani airspace, conduct a violent raid lasting 40 minutes, then return unhindered to Afghanistan.

The foreign ministry said the US choppers "made use of blind spots in the radar coverage due to hilly terrain", facilitated by "mountainous terrain, efficacious use of latest technology and 'nap of the earth' flying techniques".
 
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A lot of contradictions in US/Pakistan statements.....lies upon lies.......eventually truth will come out.....'DRAMA' ....'ENGINEERED'????
 
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Dude...do you think we have nothing better to do than fire nukes at India.
If someone says this thing in India about Pakistan, does it mean he represents all of India?
Just one comment from an online account and you assume this is the view of majority in Pakistan?
India and Pakistan will be absolutely desperate if they fight a war and go nuclear...it is like setting fire to your neighbors house and then hoping you will not catch fire.

Sadly it seems that Pakistan is working on the set fire to your own house and hope the neighbors burns down as well theory of getting India.
 
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A lot of contradictions in US/Pakistan statements.....lies upon lies.......eventually truth will come out.....'DRAMA' ....'ENGINEERED'????

you may not get in near future but after 5 or 6 years may be obama or other cia official write a books about the abotabbad incident then we will get the truth
 
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Some prove of propanganda ive noticed against Pakistan

1) Bin Ladin lived in $1million mansion. American ppls image of a mansion is 1 were there are hollywood stars, they have swimming pools, stylish houses while the house he lived in is vastly different and a common looking house.

2) They r showing pictures of 2 pakistanis, protesters condemning the death of bin laden, stating "Protesters in Pakistan demonstrate against the bin Laden killing" Pakistan: We Told American CIA Of Osama Bin Laden Compound In Abbottabad Two Years Ago | World News | Sky News

Pakistan has 180million ppl, they r sayin just because 2 ppl r condeming doesnt mean the whole country supports them.


3) we have given Pak 3billion and they r hiding him, PAk has lost 4000 soliders, captured many terrorist excluding bin ladin, the Army is hated in half the country, wat more do these Americans want us to do.
 
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America has never "directly" attacked a country with nuclear weapons.

Look what happened in the 2008 Georgian war, they just backed off when Russia entered.

Even North Korea, with their one or two fission devices, can scare off the USA. The North Koreans made multiple lethal attacks on American allies (South Korea), and can get away with it easily.
 
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America has said that they reserve the right to strike anywhere inside Pakistan.

I bet they meant to say we are going to terminate Haqqani network by eliminating its leadership

America no longer can afford this war, they need to show their innocent citizens some Success.
 
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I'd personally exclude PA and other forces from this equation. Every Pakistani is on their own now, start stockpiling weaponry and food and some First Aid kits etc as this Nuclear capacity and latest toys are just plain Topi Dramas to deceive the masses nothing else. The Generals of the army are use to luxury lives and they won't move their fat assses but to escape the scenes.


It looks like we are going to start off with our own Army first as they obey orders from their masters to massacre their own people on whose behalf they've these luxurious filtthy lives. Bunch of bloody goons they are.

civil war anyone ?
 
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The thing I notice about Pakistanis is their general paranoid frame of mind on this forum. Instead of questioning why one of the world's most notorious terrorist was holed up in your country and who is responsible for this fiasco, you start imagining the scenario of an imminent invasion by the USA. You really need to change your mindset. You have no strategic assets or otherwise which makes you worth invading by the USA, India or any other nation. You overstate your importance. With 90% of the world is glad that Osama bin Laden is dead and stating so, 5% of the world saying that they don't really care about Osama and the remaining 5% mourning his death, you instead focus and plan on the disintegration of your country. You elect your leaders and then curse them. You praise your army when they stand toe to toe against the Indian army but curse them for ridding your country of its trash or failing to stop the Americans from killing a self confessed mass murderer. Some poster here even went so far to state that the very men and women who defend you against dangers within and outside your borders will turn their guns on you. Pakistan doesn't need enemies outside its borders when it has citizens of your calibre

very well said.
 
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Desiman @ can you refrain yourself from praising by post, preferably "Thanks" is what you need to click.

if you got anything to share on the Topic, please go ahead.
 
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