BSF calls 'Dhruv' choppers useless

[crankthatskunk]

baseless rant... Dhruv is service with many client, they never claimed any thing like this... Service ceiling of dhruv is very good...

Look like BSF has no resources to use these birds...

Denials, denials and more denials. Why you Indians always reject your own media news? Why not accept, everything India produced to date is rubbish and does not work and does not fulfill the requirements of your own forces. Get a reality check my friends.

 

[Kinetic]

Denials, denials and more denials. Why you Indians always reject your own media news? Why not accept, everything India produced to date is rubbish and does not work and does not fulfill the requirements of your own forces. Get a reality check my friends.

What Rest of the world build also rubbish? US? Most of them do not feel the requirements of US forces. What about F-16 block 50/52 can fulfill PAF's retirements while F-16IN rejected by IAF for not fulfilling requirements?

Why not accept, everything India produced to date is rubbish and does not work

Everything this mortal world produce is rubbish and does not work. Be happy now.

 

[desioptimist]

May be it does not meet BSF's requirements.

 

[duhastmish]

with dhruv these army men cant make $ which they milk from - foreign deals .

dhruv is useless. get them some dollors or euros and see the smile on their face.

 

[crankthatskunk]

What Rest of the world build also rubbish? US? Most of them do not feel the requirements of US forces. What about F-16 block 50/52 can fulfill PAF's retirements while F-16IN rejected by IAF for not fulfilling requirements?


Everything this mortal world produce is rubbish and does not work. Be happy now.

Now Now, hang on, for Pete sake, check it, F16 one of the most used aircraft all around the world. India's rejection of F16 is good thing for the world. They instead have selected Rafael which is rejected by everyone else in the world. No foreign client to date. At least it would save F16 from humiliations it would have suffered in Indian hands. After all Indian own media says, the weapons which works fine all around the world become Junk in Indian's hands.

Rafael is not used by any except home producer France, so it wouldn't make any difference to anyone in the world, if it becomes a useless junk in Indian hands.

 

[Kinetic]

Now Now, hang on, for Pete sake, check it, F16 one of the most used aircraft all around the world. India's rejection of F16 is good thing for the world.

I am gonna have fun with this guy!!!! India's rejection of F-16 is good for the world!!!! F-16 Block 50/52 are in India for years through various exercises.

They instead have selected Rafael which is rejected by everyone else in the world. No foreign client to date.

Mig-21 is used by rest of the world, so you may prefer it over Rafale through your certain thoughts. A perfect example of grapes are sour.

At least it would save F16 from humiliations it would have suffered in Indian hands.

Frustration! More humiliation than scrambling F-16 of Abbottabad? More humaliation than P-3C? But both are rejected by India we are going for EFT/Rafale, Apache, P-8I.

After all Indian own media says, the weapons which works fine all around the world become Junk in Indian's hands.

BS!!!! India operates and have some of the best weapons in the world. That you cannot even dream for. Even Gripen is rejected by Sweden to you. We rejected Gripen-NG. lol

Rafael is not used by any except home producer France, so it wouldn't make any difference to anyone in the world, if it becomes a useless junk in Indian hands.

lol Just like PAK FA! Phalcon!!! C-17!!! Apache!!!

When you cannot afford something you call that junk!!! Rafale is Junk now!!!!!

people, watch it!

 

[crankthatskunk]

am gonna have fun with this guy!!!! India's rejection of F-16 is good for the world!!!! F-16 Block 50/52 are in India for years through various exercises.

How exactly, when you are the figure of fun due to your ridicalous attitude. The F16 may have been in India, but still owned and operated by the Americans not Indians.

The Americans were tempting you to buy them,so they have to show the product to you. But what would have happened to them once they came under your use, no one can guarantee.

Mig-21 is used by rest of the world, so you may prefer it over Rafale through your certain thoughts. A perfect example of grapes are sour.

Precisely my point, they became "Flying coffins" in the hands of indian.

Frustration! More humiliation than scrambling F-16 of Abbottabad? More humaliation than P-3C? But both are rejected by India we are going for EFT/Rafale, Apache, P-8I.

Only fools give such comments. Pakistanis were on board in Abbotabad, otherwise, you all should know it takes firing of ground base missiles and helicopters are history. They were in Pakistani airspace for at least 4 hours, you think Pakistanis wouldn't be able to do anything in 4 hours to the helicopters? Secondly, Americans were so ineffective that despite using the Stealth version of BH to give the story credence, they crashed one. Therefore, Americans have to bring the two Chinooks in to Picture, who were in the air in Pakistan, as a backup, for the precise reason. Chinook could have not come from Afghanistan after the crash, it would have taken them more than 1 1/2 hour to reach Abbotabad.

Radar detecion was a hoax, tell me were Chinooks stealth too?
Get your head examined, and learn to analyse the information.

We know who is involved in the attack on the Mehran base, don't worry we have captured few alive and everything would be taken care off, soon.

BS!!!! India operates and have some of the best weapons in the world. That you cannot even dream for. Even Gripen is rejected by Sweden to you. We rejected Gripen-NG. lol

We know you throw lots of money at weapons, despite your constant rumbling about "indigenous". Don't you understand, it is counter productive for your own arguments? If you were capable to produce good weapons yourself, you wouldn't import technological advanced weapons.

Proven, your indigenous weapons are useless junks not capable of taking care of your defense needs. Thank you for making my point.
But if you still insist on how good your "indigenous" weapons are, you would have trouble explaining why are you importing?

Remember this urgent requirement came in to existence because your DRDO despite spending billions and decades came up with LCA late and useless. So you ended up with a problem to plug the gaps.

lol Just like PAK FA! Phalcon!!! C-17!!! Apache!!!

Foolish, really foolish, and you think you can make fun of me?

Man, the whole world knows who is working and producing PAK FA. Your only contribution in this "indigenous" plane is buckets load of "dosh".

Here the confirmation good weapons become useless in Indian hands, now try to blame your own media.

 

[Zabaniyah]

^^^^Over 70% of India's weapon inventory are all imported, making India the largest importer of weapons in the world.

Apparently Arjun is India' first 'indigenous' MBT. Nearly 60% of the parts needed to assemble the early production models of the beast were all imported. But now (at least apparently), some parts now come from local sources, thereby reducing its reliance on foreign suppliers.

By the way, the helicopters used in the Abbotabad raid by the Americans were no ordinary choppers. They were stealth prototypes never seen in public. The Comanche project was probably the closest the public eye can get to as far stealth choppers go

I doubt even Indian air-defenses could have detected those choppers. Oh, and the incident took place in an army cantonment

 

[shrivatsa]

Nearly 60% of the parts needed to assemble the early production models of the beast were all imported.

prove this

 

[Kinetic]

How exactly, when you are the figure of fun due to your ridicalous attitude.

Ridiculous attitude are from those who cannot made any thing beyond a gyrocopter and talk about other countries helicopter.

The F16 may have been in India, but still owned and operated by the Americans not Indians.

India have regular exercises with Singapore and India watched most advanced F16IN, so your F-16 does not matter. lol

The Americans were tempting you to buy them,so they have to show the product to you. But what would have happened to them once they came under your use, no one can guarantee.

Yes we buy them, we do not take them as aid nor we let them has base in our country to kill our own people.

Precisely my point, they became "Flying coffins" in the hands of indian.

Really? When Pakistanis fighters crashes, what you call them?

Only fools give such comments. Pakistanis were on board in Abbotabad, otherwise, you all should know it takes firing of ground base missiles and helicopters are history. They were in Pakistani airspace for at least 4 hours, you think Pakistanis wouldn't be able to do anything in 4 hours to the helicopters? Secondly, Americans were so ineffective that despite using the Stealth version of BH to give the story credence, they crashed one. Therefore, Americans have to bring the two Chinooks in to Picture, who were in the air in Pakistan, as a backup, for the precise reason. Chinook could have not come from Afghanistan after the crash, it would have taken them more than 1 1/2 hour to reach Abbotabad.

Pakistanis did not knew about the raid until it was over. CIA Director said no one in Abottabad was even aware of the raid until Navy SEALs destroyed the chopper with bombs. lol

Just two example for you..... lol I will give more if you want...

Rachel Maddow Show

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com - Pakistan support for bin Laden?

Direct White House press conf.. John Brennan, the counter-terrorism chief of the US, explains the operation that killed Osama.

Did Pak provide support system to Osama?

Radar detecion was a hoax, tell me were Chinooks stealth too?

Hoax for you, everything is hoax for you. Chinook was not part of the raid in Pakistan.

Get your head examined, and learn to analyse the information.

For a madman rest of the world are needed to examine their heads.

We know who is involved in the attack on the Mehran base, don't worry we have captured few alive and everything would be taken care off, soon.

You even do not know who has been caught and how many attackers were there. lol

We know you throw lots of money at weapons, despite your constant rumbling about "indigenous". Don't you understand, it is counter productive for your own arguments? If you were capable to produce good weapons yourself, you wouldn't import technological advanced weapons.

This is beyond your knowledge why countries need to import weapons. China can buy better weapons from US or Europe, Pakistan can buy better weapons from US or Europe but think why they can not. Because either China will not not allowed to buy and Pakistan cannot afford or allowed to buy.

Proven, your indigenous weapons are useless junks not capable of taking care of your defense needs. Thank you for making my point.
But if you still insist on how good your "indigenous" weapons are, you would have trouble explaining why are you importing?

These are 'junk' burning people like you see. Who neither can get or build them. See we make stealth frigates, destroyers, surface to air missile, ballistic missile defence, we make MBT, we make electronic warfare systems, we make satellites, we make launch vehicles, we make aircraft carriers, if your your brain cannot take that that you are far far behind just think that you are not enough capable. Thats it.

Remember this urgent requirement came in to existence because your DRDO despite spending billions and decades came up with LCA late and useless. So you ended up with a problem to plug the gaps.

Talking about LCA is too much for you. India designed and developed LCA, its IOC already there and FOC soon but when you cannot do it its funny you talk about India.

Foolish, really foolish, and you think you can make fun of me?

See what happen now. You are already funny. You never made a helicopter but talk about ALH, you are already laughable stuff.

Man, the whole world knows who is working and producing PAK FA. Your only contribution in this "indigenous" plane is buckets load of "dosh".

The whole world also knows about Pakistan. The whole world also knows about FGFA other than PAK FA except you. Talking about PAK FA!!!! lol

Here the confirmation good weapons become useless in Indian hands, now try to blame your own media.

Like P-3C? F-16? What is the point of these weapons if youcannot defend you country from raid and drones? lol Worthless crap for self chest thumping uploading by yourself? Why watch so much Indian media?


Cannot make a gyrocopter but here to talk about helicopter!!!!

 

[mautkimaut]

Ridiculous attitude are from those who cannot made any thing beyond a gyrocopter and talk about other countries helicopter.


India have regular exercises with Singapore and India watched most advanced F16IN, so your F-16 does not matter. lol



Yes we buy them, we do not take them as aid nor we let them has base in our country to kill our own people.




Really? When Pakistanis fighters crashes, what you call them?





Pakistanis did not knew about the raid until it was over. CIA Director said no one in Abottabad was even aware of the raid until Navy SEALs destroyed the chopper with bombs. lol

Just two example for you..... lol I will give more if you want...

Rachel Maddow Show

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com - Pakistan support for bin Laden?

Direct White House press conf.. John Brennan, the counter-terrorism chief of the US, explains the operation that killed Osama.

Did Pak provide support system to Osama?






Hoax for you, everything is hoax for you. Chinook was not part of the raid in Pakistan.



For a madman rest of the world are needed to examine their heads.



You even do not know who has been caught and how many attackers were there. lol



This is beyond your knowledge why countries need to import weapons. China can buy better weapons from US or Europe, Pakistan can buy better weapons from US or Europe but think why they can not. Because either China will not not allowed to buy and Pakistan cannot afford or allowed to buy.



These are 'junk' burning people like you see. Who neither can get or build them. See we make stealth frigates, destroyers, surface to air missile, ballistic missile defence, we make MBT, we make electronic warfare systems, we make satellites, we make launch vehicles, we make aircraft carriers, if your your brain cannot take that that you are far far behind just think that you are not enough capable. Thats it.


Talking about LCA is too much for you. India designed and developed LCA, its IOC already there and FOC soon but when you cannot do it its funny you talk about India.




See what happen now. You are already funny. You never made a helicopter but talk about ALH, you are already laughable stuff.


The whole world also knows about Pakistan. The whole world also knows about FGFA other than PAK FA except you. Talking about PAK FA!!!! lol

Like P-3C? F-16? What is the point of these weapons if youcannot defend you country from raid and drones? lol Worthless crap for self chest thumping uploading by yourself? Why watch so much Indian media?


Cannot make a gyrocopter but here to talk about helicopter!!!!

Leave it brother..You cant get life back in a dead horse by beating it nor can you debate with a Pakistani hell bent on ignoring Indian achievements

 

[Kinetic]

Leave it brother..You cant get life back in a dead horse by beating it nor can you debate with a Pakistani hell bent on ignoring Indian achievements

Thanks. Let him burn! What can they do more.

 

[Zabaniyah]

prove this

"The comparative trials are also being billed as a trial between indigenous and imported, with opponents of the Arjun being labeled as`foreign agents'. However, a point that the Army rightfully makes is that the T 90 being produced in India right now is perhaps more `indigenous' than the Arjun that has 60 percent of its parts imported. The engine, tracks, transmissions and gunners sight, together account for 60 percent of its cost and are all imported. Several officers including former Army Chief Gen VP Malik have reservations over the foreign content of the tank. "I am all for self-reliance. We have to make the Arjun more indigenous than it is today," Malik had said after the tanks had performed miserably in accelerated trials held in Rajasthan.

Arjun vs T 90: Tank trials to kick off next month - 3 -  2010: Defence & Internal Security Special on MSN India

India is world's largest importer of weapons.
BBC News - India is world's 'largest importer' of arms, says study

 

[shrivatsa]

"The comparative trials are also being billed as a trial between indigenous and imported, with opponents of the Arjun being labeled as`foreign agents'. However, a point that the Army rightfully makes is that the T 90 being produced in India right now is perhaps more `indigenous' than the Arjun that has 60 percent of its parts imported. The engine, tracks, transmissions and gunners sight, together account for 60 percent of its cost and are all imported. Several officers including former Army Chief Gen VP Malik have reservations over the foreign content of the tank. "I am all for self-reliance. We have to make the Arjun more indigenous than it is today," Malik had said after the tanks had performed miserably in accelerated trials held in Rajasthan.

Arjun vs T 90: Tank trials to kick off next month - 3 - 2010: Defence & Internal Security Special on MSN India

India is world's largest importer of weapons.
BBC News - India is world's 'largest importer' of arms, says study

60% 0f cost not 60% of parts

 

[Zabaniyah]

60% 0f cost not 60% of parts

The articles, like other articles say 60% of the parts.

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