British team, not the Americans, visited India’s INS chakra

[ashok321]

British team, not the Americans, visited India’s Russian nuclear submarine http://defenceupdate.in/british-team-not-americans-visited…/

As per the lease agreement, the Russian Naval personnels are guaranteed to be on board all the time.
So actually it must have been them reporting this incidence to their superiors back homeland.

I fail to understand why these things are played out in different shapes & colors?

Yet one more perplexing thing. Why would the Indian Navy spend millions more dollars on Russian submarine - a rented floating structure.

These rescue crafts are customized for each submarines, its not the case of one size fits all type.
Hence they must have asked the Russian (prior) permission.

 

[leapx]

UK has excellent rescue submarine. PLA navy bought a LR7 from UK.

But why did Indian show the submarine to British without informing Russians？ All you have to do is to give them the dimension of interface. I feel
something fishy going on.

 

[cerberus]

Indian media and Russian media both are agree on it.
secondly, this submarine still belongs to Russia and you haven't asked for their permission.

India don't need Russian permission
Clause mentioned say that and my argument base on Naval experts


As for going by media this news terms fake and just propoganda by french lobby

 

[ashok321]

Crisis in India-Russia ties: The French Connection

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/crisis-in-india-russia-ties-the-french-connection/20171111.htm

Adding an intriguing twist to the controversy, another Russian news portal, NEWS.ru, reported on Friday that the Kommersant report is a motivated plant.

NEWS.ru said 'French lobbyists' had planted the Kommersant report in order to scuttle the second submarine lease, and forcing the Indian Navy to lease a French nuclear submarine instead.

Kommersant is a Russian daily newspaper with a circulation of 125k. And since 2 days there is no news of its editor being arrested.

So this plant thingy is beyond me.
More, the French never offered their nuclear submarines for lease to India.


Following is what India bought from the James Fischer Defence UK:

25 ton DSAR 500

How it works:

Actually the above is the US system, however the modus operandi is the same.

India don't need Russian permission
Clause mentioned say that

Your's is a tall claim.

The lease agreement is confidential, let alone the reporters, not even sailors are privy to such document which remains (exclusively) with MOD and the Admiral.

 

[Great Sachin]

love it

 

[cerberus]

Your's is a tall claim.

The lease agreement is confidential, let alone the reporters, not even sailors are privy to such document which remains (exclusively) with MOD and the Admiral.

Documents Verified by CGDA officials . before Sinning

Learn what CGDA first

 

[Basel]

Reports in Russia sparked a controversy, but it was actually a British team that had to check compatibility with its submarine rescue system

Days after a massive controversy in Russia, over reports that India had allowed a US Navy team to visit the INS Chakra nuclear submarine leased from Moscow, details have emerged that provide greater clarity.

ThePrint has learned that while no team from the US visited the secretive nuclear attack submarine, that is on a 10-year lease, a foreign delegation did go on board a few months ago that may have generated the controversy.

Sources said that a team from James Fischer Defence UK went on board to examine the compatibility of its submarine rescue systems with the nuclear boat.

India contracted two submarine rescue vessels from the British company in 2016 in a $273 million deal. The rescue vessels are to be delivered by 2018 and all Indian submarines are being inspected by the British team as part of the deal.

Sources said that an inspection by the British team took place a few weeks ago, during which it took certain measurements, and checked the hatches and other systems for integration. A similar exercise is believed to have been carried out on the INS Arihant as well.

As reported by ThePrint, the Chakra has been at Visakhapatnam for several weeks after it was crippled in an accident that damaged it’s sonar dome. Russian teams have assessed the extent of damage caused and will be carrying out repairs.

After reports in Russia about of a US team visiting the submarine, there was no official statement by India. However, sources have confirmed on condition of anonymity that the information was inaccurate. ThePrint also checked with US officials, who have also denied any such visit.

However, Russia has been unhappy about India’s growing ties with the US that it believes have exposed some of their weapons systems and ships.

The visit by a US Navy team, that is part of a joint working group on aircraft carrier technology, to the INS Vikramaditya was viewed seriously by Russia. While India has bought the ship, it has proprietary technologies that Russia does not want shared.

https://theprint.in/2017/11/11/british-eam-visited-indian-nuclear-submarine/amp/

Nothing changes for Russians because US or UK both are allies and rival of Russia since WW-I.

british = americans since both parties are allies.

the british will tell everyone in NATO what Russia has.

I think its really wrong for what india has done.
Russia should supply Pakistan with more 100 nukes.

Actually sale of advance naval platform like subs, ships and AShMs to Pakistan will be much better option for Russia.

 

[ashok321]

Documents Verified by CGDA officials . before Sinning

Learn what CGDA first

Comes under MoD:

However, this fails to solve the following gibberish coming from you:

India don't need Russian permission
Clause mentioned say that

Please furnish the copy here if you are privy to.
Stupidubidu...

 

[cerberus]

Comes under MoD:

However, this fails to solve the following gibberish coming from you:



Please furnish the copy here if you are privy to.
Stupidubidu...

You furnish gibberish you just said that it's violations of contract

 

[ashok321]

You furnish gibberish you just said that it's violations of contract

You came on the following shik:

India don't need Russian permission
Clause mentioned say that

Now justify.

 

[Kinetic]

Grave violation of technology protection , first french subs technical secrets stolen and sold in black market now Nuclear submarine exposed + and Damaged

Suddenly cheerleading for another country!!! What ever it is FGFA and S-400 gonna comt to hunt you.

 

[Assasin Ezio]

still a third party. violation of agreement.

Is this your excuse?

I bet the Russians are pissed!

Grave violation of technology protection , first french subs technical secrets stolen and sold in black market now Nuclear submarine exposed + and Damaged

british = americans since both parties are allies.

the british will tell everyone in NATO what Russia has.

I think its really wrong for what india has done.
Russia should supply Pakistan with more 100 nukes.

so after russian media pressure Delhi has caved inn and accepted that a NATO force has checked out the submarine.

this is not good and breaks terms of agreement with Russia.

No, it's just baniyas being baniyas.

originally they said "no one" from any other country went on Chakra ride, now slowly they are coming closer to truth

Yep because NATO was not designed as an anti-Russia bloc right?

Yeah that should make the Russians feel much more secure. After all, the British are not the strongest allies of the Americans and they are certainly not anti-Russia.

Yes this is a totally reasonable thing.

If United States ever sell any modern weapons such as F-35 to India, than US might as well sell one to Russia as well.

Indians like to play double faced poker. No principles...just pretend.

it's very bad for the reputation of indian navy.giving access to anyone except the owner of sub is a violation and it will create panic among russian policy makers.

Is it British????? Now, it's time to panic for the Russians......

Nothing changes for Russians because US or UK both are allies and rival of Russia since WW-I.



Actually sale of advance naval platform like subs, ships and AShMs to Pakistan will be much better option for Russia.

Lol.
How do you kids think the British company will be able to build the submarine rescue systems without being even allowed to visit the submarines to check system compatibility and hatch measurements of the submarines for which the rescue system is meant.


BTW the Russians won't care since they themselves called for British help with submarine rescue when their nuclear submarine Kursk sank.

Actually sale of advance naval platform like subs, ships and AShMs to Pakistan will be much better option for Russia.

Keep dreaming.
The Russians dont care cause they used British help themselves for submarine rescue Atleast twice.

 

[Basel]

Lol.
How do you kids think the British company will be able to build the submarine rescue systems without being even allowed to visit the submarines to check system compatibility and hatch measurements of the submarines for which the rescue system is meant.


BTW the Russians won't care since they themselves called for British help with submarine rescue when their nuclear submarine Kursk sank.


Keep dreaming.
The Russians dont care cause they used British help themselves for submarine rescue Atleast twice.

Wake up kid, your best friend had sent it's Boomer to Pakistan and gave full access to PN to see it's capabilities, Russia will sell weapons to Pakistan, the question is does Pakistan want export version of Russian weapons?? Su-35 we're turn down because PAF wanted Russian or highly customize version while Russia wants to sale export version.

 

[DarX]

Lol.
How do you kids think the British company will be able to build the submarine rescue systems without being even allowed to visit the submarines to check system compatibility and hatch measurements of the submarines for which the rescue system is meant.


BTW the Russians won't care since they themselves called for British help with submarine rescue when their nuclear submarine Kursk sank.


Keep dreaming.
The Russians dont care cause they used British help themselves for submarine rescue Atleast twice.

Son this submarine has been LEASED by India. Please don't act like India owns it.

 

[Assasin Ezio]

Wake up kid, your best friend had sent it's Boomer to Pakistan and gave full access to PN to see it's capabilities, Russia will sell weapons to Pakistan, the question is does Pakistan want export version of Russian weapons?? Su-35 we're turn down because PAF wanted Russian or highly customize version while Russia wants to sale export version.

B.S.
Russians never sent any boomer to Pakistan. It was RNS Severemorsk
Also PAF getting Su-35 is now regarded as a joke even on PDF.

Meanwhile a top Russian official himself said the recent reports were a lie:

The Chairman of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) of Russia, Dmitry Shugaev, said that information about admission of specialists from the United States to the Russian-made submarine Chakra in India is a lie. "We will by no means be succumbed to these provocations," Mr. Shugayev said on the air of the Rossiya 24 television channel.

The media reports that the representatives of the US naval forces allegedly visited the nuclear submarine Chakra-2, which Russia transferred to India in leasing, are untrue and are "thrown in". This was stated by Dmitry Shugaev, head of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) of Russia.