Bringing the different factions together as one in Pakistan

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Recently we have discussed the various different elements that have caused instability and disunity in Pakistan over the past 4 decades. Now, more importantly, we need to discuss WHAT can be done to bring together the various different factions in Pakistan, for the betterment and progress of our country.

What are your thoughts guys?

 

[hussain0216]

Our identity needs to be Pakistani

Dosent Matter if it's Pakistani muslim, xtian, Sikh, Jew (not Hindu obviously)

Ethnocentric politics has been poison for us

Amendment 18 itself is based upon division and ethnocentric politics


Dosent matter if its PTM, ANP, PPP, MQM, BLA, all these are ethnocentric regional parties and all they want is regional power so they can be kings in their own fiefdoms, PMLN was the only slightly national party but they and now Punjabcentric

Only PTI is a Pakistani party at the moment and wants a national consensus, supports the military, supports our national and strategic interests


It has to start from education, a single curriculum based upon Pakistani nationalism start with the kids from the start

The state needs to CRUSH ethnocentric politics, our people are ignorant and jahil and they are not educated or smart enough to understand the poison of ethnocentric politics and how it ties them down

Because of this shit, everytime we try to build a dam , road, industry we have some sort of bastard opposition

We try to secure PAKISTAN Western border - Pashteens start crying about law au bar afghanis

We try to develop header and Balochistan and the Baloch start crying


We try to build dams or developed islands Sindhi start moaning


Now we want punishment of looters and we get PDM


Honestly it's a clusterfuck and we are only saved because we have a majority of loyal patriotic citizens across all provinces and the military


It has to end and we REALLLLLLLY have to become a Monster and hunt our enemies down and tear India apart from within

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Does the average Pak citizens realise they are being played by international powers? Once upon a time i only knew of one raving anti Pakistani lunatic known as Altaf Hussain. Today dozens of activists have appeared since the past 5-10years. From PTM, Baloch nationalists, Sindi nationalists, GB nationalists, Azad Kashmiri nationalists enjoying life of luxury in the west while inciting violence across pakistan. All paid and fully funded maggots to cause mischief, lies and instability across Pakistan.

 

[Microsoft]

Recently we have discussed the various different elements that have caused instability and disunity in Pakistan over the past 4 decades. Now, more importantly, we need to discuss WHAT can be done to bring together the various different factions in Pakistan, for the betterment and progress of our country.

What are your thoughts guys?

Education. It doesn't matter what your opinion is as long as everyone focuses on their own improvement everything will sort itself out. It's what Voltaire said "One must cultivate one's own garden". I think this can be taught through quality low level education where people learn to think for themselves. This way they will learn that their own interests are the best drivers.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Need a strong patriotic media network that will promote Pakistan and celebrate its vast native ethnicities and languages. The current media is garbage which only focuses on political parties.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Recently we have discussed the various different elements that have caused instability and disunity in Pakistan over the past 4 decades. Now, more importantly, we need to discuss WHAT can be done to bring together the various different factions in Pakistan, for the betterment and progress of our country.

What are your thoughts guys?

What factions? Name a few, so that we discuss with precision.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Does the average Pak citizens realise they are being played by international powers? Once upon a time i only knew of one raving anti Pakistani lunatic known as Altaf Hussain. Today dozens of activists have appeared since the past 5-10years. From PTM, Baloch nationalists, Sindi nationalists, GB nationalists, Azad Kashmiri nationalists enjoying life of luxury in the west while inciting violence across pakistan. All paid and fully funded maggots to cause mischief, lies and instability across Pakistan.

In that case does it raise the uncomfortable possibility that a significant number of Pakistanis like being the slaves/errand boys/girls for non-Pakistanis even when they are hostile towards us? If that is the case then why is it happening? What can we do to prevent it?

I also believe that Pakistan needs to follow the model of successful South American nations like Chile and now Colombia to get us out of our current rut. The diversity we have in Pakistan is more akin to South American/Latino nations than it is to Asian nations.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

In that case does it raise the uncomfortable possibility that a significant number of Pakistanis like being the slaves/errand boys/girls for non-Pakistanis even when they are hostile towards us? If that is the case then why is it happening? What can we do to prevent it?

One thing is certain we are too hospitable and roll the red carpet for anyone including enemies. We are not a nation with a strong identity. Look abroad the vast majority of Pakistanis in Europe and Gulf states are in low paid jobs, earning a basic minimum wage to send to their loved ones in their village. We hardly have any political power.
We seem to be a hired gun for the Arabs.

 

[FuturePAF]

Our identity needs to be Pakistani

Dosent Matter if it's Pakistani muslim, xtian, Sikh, Jew (not Hindu obviously)

Ethnocentric politics has been poison for us

Amendment 18 itself is based upon division and ethnocentric politics


Dosent matter if its PTM, ANP, PPP, MQM, BLA, all these are ethnocentric regional parties and all they want is regional power so they can be kings in their own fiefdoms, PMLN was the only slightly national party but they and now Punjabcentric

Only PTI is a Pakistani party at the moment and wants a national consensus, supports the military, supports our national and strategic interests


It has to start from education, a single curriculum based upon Pakistani nationalism start with the kids from the start

The state needs to CRUSH ethnocentric politics, our people are ignorant and jahil and they are not educated or smart enough to understand the poison of ethnocentric politics and how it ties them down

Because of this shit, everytime we try to build a dam , road, industry we have some sort of bastard opposition

We try to secure PAKISTAN Western border - Pashteens start crying about law au bar afghanis

We try to develop header and Balochistan and the Baloch start crying


We try to build dams or developed islands Sindhi start moaning


Now we want punishment of looters and we get PDM


Honestly it's a clusterfuck and we are only saved because we have a majority of loyal patriotic citizens across all provinces and the military


It has to end and we REALLLLLLLY have to become a Monster and hunt our enemies down and tear India apart from within

Why not Pakistani Hindus? If they are our citizens, they need to be included just like anyone else. The whole point is to show that under our system they are better off then if they align with India. It also creates a permanent underclass in our society, which is morally wrong and also geo strategically dangerous.

Look at the Muslims in France. Alienation breeds only problems.

We don’t have an all Green flag. We need to remember all the people the white part represents. I remember the words of Mervyn Leslie Middlecoat of the Pakistan Air Force to his daughter, which she relayed later in life;

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=183605242544241

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Why not Pakistani Hindus? If they are our citizens, they need to be included just like anyone else. The whole point is to show that under our system they are better off then if they align with India. It also creates a permanent underclass in our society, which is morally wrong and also geo strategically dangerous.

Look at the Muslims in France. Alienation breeds only problems.

Hindus should be included, the controversial ones for me are the Qadianis.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

One thing is certain we are too hospitable and roll the red carpet for anyone including enemies. We are not a nation with a strong identity. Look abroad the vast majority of Pakistanis in Europe and Gulf states are in low paid jobs, earning a basic minimum wage to send to their loved ones in their village. We hardly have any political power.
We seem to be a hired gun for the Arabs.

Why is that ONLY us Pakistanis do this? WHAT is the reason behind this? EVERY other race, nationality does the opposite. indians, East Asians, Arabs, Turks, Iranians, Jews, White people, Black people etc do the EXACT opposite to what we do in terms of hospitality. The ONLY other people that I can think of as being hospitable as us, even towards their enemies are Brazilians. But even they are not at the same level as we are.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Abolish provinces

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Why not Pakistani Hindus? If they are our citizens, they need to be included just like anyone else. The whole point is to show that under our system they are better off then if they align with India. It also creates a permanent underclass in our society, which is morally wrong and also geo strategically dangerous.

Look at the Muslims in France. Alienation breeds only problems.

As long as they are Pakistani, they will be accepted. Hindu Pakistanis are our people. We will love and protect them too.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Why is that ONLY us Pakistanis do this? WHAT is the reason behind this? EVERY other race, nationality does the opposite. indians, East Asians, Arabs, Turks, Iranians, Jews, White people, Black people etc do the EXACT opposite to what we do in terms of hospitality. The ONLY other people that I can think of as being hospitable as us, even towards their enemies are Brazilians. But even they are not at the same level as we are.

It is becuase Pakistanis are generally very nice to foreigners. If you are
Native Eurropean - you have white privilege,
Arab - pure brothers from the holy land
Indian - our beloved desi brothers & neighbours
BD - Once part of our country, still our brother
Afghanistan & iran- our beloved cousins
Black - beloved people of Hazarat Billal (RA)
China - our iron brother
Turkey - our historicle brothers
UK - our beloved rulers

Except

Brit Pakistani- scam them with twice the cost

......and it continues, Pak seem to want to call every nationality as brother.

 

[FuturePAF]

Hindus should be included, the controversial ones for me are the Qadianis.

Yes that is the controversial minority. But as with the Mormons in America, we need to find a way to include them as a non-Muslim minority, for their sake and the sake of the stability of society. We don’t need to be bogged down in religious quarrel, which would only distract from national development.

In secular matter they should be judged by their actions (such as Abdus Salam), and in religious matter allowed to practice privately amongst themselves.

Many may only be qadiani by birth/family, and in the proper safe venue, if any are interested, a debate to show where their beliefs are incompatible with Islam, could be arranged for those who earnestly feel they are true Muslims and want to come back into the fold.