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Breaking: Qassem Soleimani Confirmed Dead by Iraqi State Media

that's because the lack of nationallism omong iraqis you see the iranians love their persian magians and jews more than theylove afghan or arab shias, the turks love their tengrist brothers more than they love their sunni nieghbors while our people prefer sunni turk or kurd over shia arab in the south while the shia prefer iranians and pakistani shias over their own iraqi sunni brothers!! at the same time iranians prefere iranian jew over shia arab becuase they are nationalists who love their culture and land more than our retards who prefer sect over their blood and land.

I will be honest now, I have only experienced this with Iraqi Shia Arabs to date among all Arabs. When I discussed politics (in this case online, not experienced it in person yet) with some of the Iraqi Shia Arabs from the South (mainly), people who openly and proudly told which Arab tribe and clan they belonged to, that they have relatives in KSA and recent ancestors from KSA/Arabia/other areas of the Arab world (as almost every Iraq Shia Arab has), despite all this and sharing everything in common, they gave me the impression that they would side with a Shia non-Arab that shares their ideology, over that of their own brethren. I don't know if those individuals were part of Iraqi families that were wronged by the Saddam regime (say Marsh Arabs) but it was very strange to witness.

It is funny because Iraqi Shia Arabs used to be one of the biggest Arab nationalists not long ago, they still got it in them, as seen recently, but as usual it is the tiny minority of Wilayat al-Faqih drones, not 99% of all Iraqi Shia Arabs.

For Gods sake, Iraqi Shia Arabs are some of the most traditional Arabs out there. In many ways due to less Westernization/poverty/political isolation due to the state of Iraq, they often tend to be very conservative in terms of Arab customs, more so than the average Saudi Arabian for instance from my experience.

To be honest, I cannot hate my own people, and I consider them cousins/siblings now living across an artificial border less than 100 years old. It just pains me when I see how much their elites (clerics in included) have taken advantage of them, as they are truly some of the traditional barriers of Arabism, not talking about the political aspect here.

I still remember how locals in Northern KSA hosted almost 200.000 Iraqi Shia Arabs like their own after the uprising in 1991. Including filth like Nouri al-Maliki.

I remember the many recent visits, the football match in Basra, the KSA expo in Basra etc. We are one people that should not allow for political regimes/foreigners to separate us as this will not work. Similarly the bonds between people of Southern KSA and Northern Yemen will never be broken, no proxy war will change this as can be seen.
 
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Apparently it was not a secret trip. In a way I feel he wanted this to happen. He was reaching 70 soon and he didn't want to die in bed. He probably ignored all security measures.


On the contrary, Iran's reaction has been very calm so far. Not even a single word of threat from IRGC.
This has nothing to do with threats,we`re far beyond that now,the only question is what form the retaliation will take,will it be blatant ie the public assassination of a high ranking military or political figure by the irgc ie a drone or missile strike,or will it involve some degree of plausible deniability ie an iraqi hezbollah operation that targets high value american personnel with iran issuing no statement afterwards.Those are really the only options available.
 
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Pentagon say's Trump ordered this.

Historically, American Presidents who start wars get reelected to office so if anything this is Trump trying to save his presidency and get reelected because he knows Dems don't have the votes to kick him out and getting reelected will basically make his impeachment look more like a badge of honor!

the guy is an amauteur and an absolute shortsided moron when it comes to geopolitical policy.....

and when it comes to decisions of this magnitude... trump doesn't just sit in his house and one day make it randomly...

top level national security/military advisors bring him the info... the pros and cons, and recommendations..

and that place is packed with deepstate neocons and Zionists...

and trump will commit political suicide if he goes to war with Iran... Iran is not an Iraq or Afghanistan where there will be this short term high of tactical military victory with the decline in support corresponding with mounting casualties..

a war with Iran will be catastrophic for the US. they will see losses they haven't since ww2/civil war. Iran will hit them hard, and painfully and there will be immediate questions of what has this madman gotten the US into...

I highly doubt Trump even knows who Soleimani is, let alone comprehend the magnitude of this move. the intel community sure does though.
 
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Bear in mind, Iran had people like Shahkd Hamedani and Tehrani Moghaddam who where never introduced to the public before their death.
We can expect people of Shahid Solemanis calibre in the background.

I highly doubt it. Soleimani is irreplaceable. This is much bigger than you think.
 
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Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei says those who assassinated IRGC Quds Force Commander Major General Qassem Soleimani must await a tough revenge.

In a statement on Friday, Ayatollah Khamenei said the “cruelest people on earth” assassinated the “honorable” commander who “courageously fought for years against the evils and bandits of the world.”

His demise will not stop his mission, but the criminals who have the blood of General Soleimani and other martyrs of the Thursday night attack on their hands must await a tough revenge, the Leader added.

“Martyr Soleimani is an international figure of the Resistance, and all the devotees of Resistance are now his avengers,” Ayatollah Khamenei noted.

The Leader said all the friends and foes must know that the Resistance movement’s struggle will continue more strongly, and a definite victory awaits those who fight in this auspicious path.

“The demise of our selfless and dear general is bitter, but the continued fight and achievement of the final victory will make life bitterer for the murderers and criminals,” he added.

In his statement, the Leader also offered condolences to the Iranian nation and General Soleimani’s family, and declared three days of national mourning over the tragedy.

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/01/03/615238/Leader-Soleimani-revenge-US
 
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With Iran or With US aside.
Can you simply Directly Attack a Serving General of the Armed Forces of a UN member State like that?
I mean Covert ops is one thing but this? Where will US stop? Who is secure now? Next day we will see a Russian Chinese or Pakistani General Being Targeted like that and Its a self defense?
And the next step would be partially Neutral Countries like Brazil, India, Argentine, Indonesia targetted?
You should either be US ally or you should be crushed and Subdued?

I am not a big fan of Iran and Its Policies. In fact Iran is pretty much hostile country to Pakistan. But you cannot simply take out a Serving General of any country without being in a state of war in a direct strike.
Qasim Sulemani Threatened Pakistan once. And i never liked that man from that day onward. But Leaving aside all the political BS of Arabs and Farsis, being a neutral person, Indeed he was a great soldier to his end and Served hi homeland well, Lived a soldier and died a soldier's Death. Rest in Peace.
 
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Excellent news! The bottom line is if you continue to threaten and attack Americans, you will be steamrolled. Well done Trump.
Can we say the same for the rest of the world or the rule only applies to Americans?
 
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WITHDRAW FROM JPOA, NTP----EXPELL ALL IAEA AND DECLARE MOBILIZATION AND TRANSPORT TROOPS TO THE BORDER OF KUWAIT, PREPARE THE NAVY

LET'S SEE WHETHER TRUMP IS READY FOR ANOTHER QUAGMIRE AND DESTRUCTION OF MIDDLE EASTERN OIL INFRASTRUCTURE

THIS WILL BE THE END OF AMERICAN SUPERPOWER

There are non-biased sources for researching the military capabilities of each country. Any further escalation by Iran will be the end of the regime, which is what KSA and Tel Aviv want.

With Iran or With US aside.
Can you simply Directly Attack a Serving General of the Armed Forces of a UN member State like that?
I mean Covert ops is one thing but this? Where will US stop? Who is secure now? Next day we will see a Russian Chinese or Pakistani General Being Targeted like that and Its a self defense?
And the next step would be partially Neutral Countries like Brazil, India, Argentine, Indonesia targetted?
You should either be US ally or you should be crushed and Subdued?

I am not a big fan of Iran and Its Policies. In fact Iran is pretty much hostile country to Pakistan. But you cannot simply take out a Serving General of any country without being in a state of war in a direct strike.
Qasim Sulemani Threatened Pakistan once. And i never liked that man from that day onward. But Leaving aside all the political BS of Arabs and Farsis, being a neutral person, Indeed he was a great soldier to his end and Served hi homeland well, Lived a soldier and died a soldier's Death. Rest in Peace.

He was an enemy combatant, who had no issue killing US soldiers. He signed his death warrant in 2005.
 
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I highly doubt it. Soleimani is irreplaceable. This is much bigger than you think.

Nobody is irreplaceable in the Republic. Iran does not allow it. Also Solemani was 62 years old he would likely be retiring by 65-67 anyway. It’s not like he was gonna command till he was 90 years old. There was talk he could leave as soon as this upcoming presidential election.

Furthermore, Solemani had his flaws. Which meant he was way too comfortable with the embracement of martyrdom in his operations. That lead to the deaths of countless soldiers/militiamen a tactic that belongs to the Iran/Iraq war era.

After leading Quds force since 1998, someone else will replace him and carry the torch and possibly introduce newer ideas and strategies.

Passing of the guard was going to happen sooner or later.
 
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