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Breaking: Plane with 71 on board goes missing after taking off from Moscow

Are there any important Russians on the airplane?
 
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99% CIA/Mosad/PKK

May have been a proxy pay back for recent F16 downing
The shadows won't appear in front they will always float around and do bidding from proxy

When Turkey decided to move into PKK area , they also had a loss of Military plane under questionable circumstances
 
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We don't consider those extremists Muslims they are Jews and Christians

because those extremists work for their cause.

name a single terrorist organization that has not received weapons or money from USA.

The No True Musalman fallacy.
 
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71 killed in Moscow region passenger plane crash: What we know so far


Saratov Airlines’ Antonov An-148 jet carrying 65 passengers and six crew crashed after take-off outside Moscow. As salvage efforts are underway at the crash site, we sum up everything we know so far about the deadly accident.
HOW IT WENT MISSING
Domodedovo air traffic control lost contact with Saratov Airlines flight 703, bound for Orsk, several minutes after take off, an official from Russia’s Air Transport Agency (Rosaviatsiya) told local media. He said communication with the crew was cut and the plane vanished from radar screens.

Earlier in the day, debris was spotted from the air. Emergency services immediately deployed rapid response teams to the reported crash site, but rescuers and medics had to reach it on foot, walking through the countryside buried under snow.

Preliminary reports say the wreckage is spread across an area between adjacent villages. The Emergencies Ministry said the search-and-rescue operation will work around the clock, with the crash site observed by drones.

PASSENGERS AND CREW
Sixty-five passengers were on board the plane, along with six crew. Later on Sunday, the Emergencies Ministry published the full list of all 71 people killed in the crash. Among them were three children and three foreigners, reportedly citizens of Switzerland, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan.

Later, the airline said the captain on the ill-fated flight, Valery Gubanov, was an experienced pilot who had accumulated 5,000 flight hours. Two technicians who conducted the last maintenance of the plane were also reportedly on board the aircraft at the time of the crash, according to Saratov transport prosecutor’s office.

POSSIBLE CAUSES OF CRASH
It is premature to say what caused the crash and investigators say they have not yet pinpointed a single version of events. The debris and dead bodies are scattered over a wide area, and rescue efforts are complicated by the snowfall and strong winds that have gripped the Moscow region this Sunday.

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Later in the day, a flight recorder with the plane’s flight parameters has been found at the An-148’s crash site, the emergency operational headquarters has said. Preliminary reports indicate the pilots did not report any technical failures, nor did they activate a mayday call, according to Russia’s Investigative Committee.

A number of Russian agencies will probe the airline’s safety and maintenance standards, as well as the operations of Domodedovo air traffic control. Observers say every investigation of such a tragedy should focus on three main issues.

“You know, we’re dealing with the weather, we’re dealing with the crew, what was their training like, did they have enough rest before ... sadly, in today’s world, we’re going to be listening and looking for anything that could’ve been a threat of terrorism on board,” Mark Weiss, former American Airlines captain and aviation expert, told RT.

He said investigating the role of weather conditions and de-icing is equally crucial. “Pilots are trained to deal with crises, and every take-off is predicated on some type of catastrophic event ... so what [the investigators] are going to be looking for is certainly the weather factor [and] was the airplane properly de-iced,” Weiss said.

The crash might have been caused by weather conditions, human error or technical failure, according to TASS, citing an emergency source. However, the source said there were no extreme weather conditions in the Moscow region at the time.

THE AIRLINER
The An-148 is a twin-engine narrow body airliner developed by Ukraine’s Antonov Corporation back in the early 2000s. The aircraft, designed for regional short-haul routes, made its maiden flight in 2004 and was cleared for civilian use in 2009.

The crashed An-148, capable of carrying 85 passengers, was manufactured in 2010, according to TASS. From 2015 to 2017 – the year it was handed over to Saratov Airlines – the plane was kept in storage due to a lack of spare parts. In the meantime, Saratov Airlines’ spokeswoman Elena Voronova told RIA Novosti the jet was well-maintained and cared for.

This was the second accident involving an An-148. In 2011, an Antonov An-148 crashed during a test flight in the Belgorod region of Russia, killing all six crew on board, including two flight cadets from Myanmar. An investigation found that the crew permitted the aircraft to accelerate more than 60 knots above its maximum speed in an emergency descent, which caused it to break up in flight.


https://www.rt.com/news/418490-saratov-airlines-crash-summary/
 
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I see the usual conspiracy blame game has begun.

That being said, my condolences to the citizens of Russia.

This is not a conspiracy blame few things here have scientific reasons like the rate of decent that is too fast.
 
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This is not a conspiracy blame few things here have scientific reasons like the rate of decent that is too fast.

This very well may have been no accident/terrorisim

I just don't think it wise to assume it was from any specific source until more facts come out from the Russian government agencies.
 
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This very well may have been terrorism, I just don't think it wise to assume it was from any specific source until more facts come out from the Russian government.
It could be any thing and it will all depend on facts but every one knows science to some extent and few things that are known show the picture. At this point all one can do is feel sad for the victims. RIP
 
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How sure are you? It could well be :lol:


100% sure. Same happened at flight AF 447. The pitot tubes were frozen, autopilot got deactivated. Pilots were surpised and did misread what was going on. They pull up because tehy think they get too fast, when infact they get slower and slower until they stall and fall down like stone.
 
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100% sure. Same happened at flight AF 447. The pitot tubes were frozen, autopilot got deactivated. Pilots were surpised and did misread what was going on. They pull up because tehy think they get too fast, when infact they get slower and slower until they stall and fall down like stone.
I know, I was just mocking the conspiracy theorist here.

And I understand what happens, thanks.:) I watch air crash investigation vids a lot.

Are you a pilot?
 
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100% sure. Same happened at flight AF 447. The pitot tubes were frozen, autopilot got deactivated. Pilots were surpised and did misread what was going on. They pull up because tehy think they get too fast, when infact they get slower and slower until they stall and fall down like stone.

A more sensible explanation in comparison to the conspiratorial BS being spread here. A random Russian jetliner was taken down because of something happened in Turkey or Syria is just a ridiculous idea.
 
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I know, I was just mocking the conspiracy theorist here.

And I understand what happens, thanks.:) I watch air crash investigation vids a lot.

Are you a pilot?


No, i´m a mechanic at an airline.

Let say it that way, if we happen to be in an A320 or A330 and something happenes, i would know how to land it as long as the airport has a well calibrated ILS system.
 
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