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[Chinese-Dragon]

Judging from what you said. You are racist against the black. You can say whatever the hell you want. You can even say yourself is black from Kenya, that does not mean you are or I have to believe you, I believe what I see and hear, and from that, you are RACIST against black.

I don't honestly care about Black Life matter or not, this particular incident is NOT ABOUT BLACK LIFE MATTER anyway. A dude killed 5 coppers out of no reason at all. It's straight up murder, unless you are telling me Black Live Matter is a legitimate reason to go outside and kill copper as you please, otherwise BLM movement have nothing to do with this particular incident.

COPS LIVE MATTER

I support both Black lives matter AND Cops lives matter.

Like I said, I believe all human lives are equal. So why wouldn't I support both?

 

[jhungary]

I support both Black lives matter AND Cops lives matter.

Like I said, I believe all human lives are equal. So why wouldn't I support both?

So you keep saying you believe all human lives are equal, then where are your opinion on these issue??

Ignorance or Racism: Being Black in China
Thursday, April 3, 2014 | By: Kendall Tyson

I am accustomed to living with the color of my skin at the forefront of my mind. As a black woman from the United States, I constantly experience the repercussions of living in a society with race heavily etched into its social make-up. So, when I prepared to move to China, the fear of racism, discrimination, and prejudice became an imminent concern.

So, what was the first thing I did as I packed my bags? I did what any other sensible person would do when faced with complex, nuanced problems such as race and identity: I googled “Being Black in China.” What I found simultaneously shocked and reassured me.

Racism, discrimination, prejudice were all red-hot words that caused many people’s blood to boil. I read accounts of foreigners visiting or living in another country with the fear that they will experience issues of social, even racial, tension. This seemed to be especially true of people of black, African, or African-American descent, who notoriously experience racism, as minorities in other countries.

I found comments on China’s social media site, Weibo, calling Africans “devils” or stating that they hated Africans, who are permanently or living long-term in China. I also found comments of users describing “high-quality” light-skinned black girls, versus “ugly” dark-skinned black girls. However, I also found accounts of black foreigners, who found living in China an exceptionally pleasant and rewarding experience.

So, incidentally, my Google search didn’t give me a definitive answer to the question of how black people experience China. Today, after living in China for almost a year, I reached the conclusion that there is no definite answer.

Thus, when one of my colleagues wrote an article titled Being Black in China, I read it excitedly, but hesitantly.

TWOC’s recent article, Being Black in China, explored the world of black and Chinese social relations, through an interview with Jennifer Bonne: an athlete from the Seychelles, who currently studies at Beijing Sports University.

Bonne offered her perspective on living in Beijing and interacting with Chinese people:

“I don’t know maybe it is because I am self confident, but I feel proud; I feel here like I am one in a million. I feel special and there is a typical spotlight, but, let’s say, it is something positive rather than negative.”

Jennifer’s experience and perspective, while completely valid and respected, represents only one perspective of the black experience in China. Like myself, several others noted the article focused on one person. Naturally, the article elicited a flurry of response from many of our readers in the world of social media.

“Coincidentally you’ve chosen to write from the perspective of someone who seems to ignore the bigotry that happens to them or doesn’t take it as seriously as others might,” stated a Tumblr netizen.

In order to address the many passionate comments of our readers, I interviewed black, African, and African-American students at Beijing, University.


Kendall Tyson (far left) and Peking University Students

Similarly to Jennifer, many of the students were enthusiastic about studying at Beijing, University. They too experienced the celebrity-like attention and often found the curiosity from locals endearing, rather than insulting.

“I can sense that Chinese are so curious; when they see you, they touch your hair, they took pictures,” explained Hanatalovldona Ramahalosa, a student from Madagascar.

However, Ramahalosa also described a devastating experience of her friend traveling in rural China.

“They asked him to speak, because they wanted to make sure he was human. He said he was never coming back to China,” Ramahalosa recalls.

Ramahalosa’ roommate, Syuzan, interjected that racism is more prevalent in the rural regions of China. In larger cities, such as Beijing, which has experienced an influx of foreigners, since the 2008 Olympics, the blatant racism is less prevalent.

However, Syuzan, also pointed out that this doesn’t extend to a lack of prejudice in the workforce: “You can’t find a job teaching [English] if you are black.”

In many cases, Chinese people seem to want white language partners. To many black and African people living in China, this isn’t a new thought. I’ve seen several signs in cafés and dormitories asking for tutors, yet adding the disclaimer that only white male Canadians or Americans apply.

“They don’t realize that so much of Canada and the US is black,” laughed Ramahalosa.


Kendall Tyson (woman on right) at a language partner mixer in Wudaokou, Beijing

Seemingly, much of the racism or prejudice seems to stem from a lack of knowledge about black people. When speaking to my teacher at Beijing, University, a Chinese woman, she explained that most of what she knew about black people was from movies, in which they were usually criminals or athletes.

Nearly all of the interviews mentioned the perception that many Chinese people are afraid of black or African males. Armand Holmes, both a writer at TWOC and student at Beijing, University explained that he also experienced the misconception of the black male criminal.

Once, while walking at Beijing, University with several friends, Holmes walked toward the trashcan to throw something out. He didn’t notice a Chinese woman standing next to the bin. However, the woman clearly noticed him walking toward her and screamed. Despite the fact that she was on a crowded street and Armand was with several friends, she still viewed him as a threat.

On the other hand, Holmes frequently meets Chinese friends playing basketball on campus. In many ways, China seems to suffer from placing black men in two categories: a threat or a basketball superstar.


Armand Holmes (middle) at a bar partying with new Chinese friends

The common misconceptions of black woman are less easily defined. Sometimes our skin is fawned over, other times we are told to not tan or to be more pale.

In the article where Bonne is interviewed, she jokes about the lack of darker foundation and black hair products in China. While this is presented as a light problem, it reflects the larger difficulty of living in a society, where white is still the epitome of beauty.

Personally, I’ve had Chinese women tell me I should use whitening soap; however, I’ve also had people tell me that the only reason I am able to get a job in China as a teacher is because I don’t look too dark. My Irish heritage from my mother’s side of the family definitely shines through. With hazel eyes and light brown curly hair, I obviously have a little something-something mixed in me.

Of course, this doesn’t mean that all Chinese people find dark skin unappealing. Bonne, as well as several of the Beijing, University interviewees mentioned intercultural dating. However, while spotting black and Chinese couples isn’t impossible, it presents its own difficulties from strange looks to familial disapproval.

“My grandparents would never want me to marry a black person,” a Beijing University student of Chinese heritage explained.

Over and over again, in the conversation about black and Chinese relations, I’ve heard the word “curiosity,” or “ignorance.” While some black people don’t find the reactions they receive from Chinese people offensive, some have had truly troubling experiences. Like any country, ethnic relations in China are complex.

As one blogger explained: “It’s up to the person who experienced the prejudice or the racism to call it what it is.”

Maybe you should start your own "Black Life Matter" in China too, or are you only care about black in a foreign land?? Again, unless you actually go start a Black Life Matter Chinese Chapter, you are a hypocrite for calling yourself A supporter of Black Life Matter and a supporter of All Life Equal.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

So you keep saying you believe all human lives are equal, then where are your opinion on these issue??

Ignorance or Racism: Being Black in China
Thursday, April 3, 2014 | By: Kendall Tyson

I am accustomed to living with the color of my skin at the forefront of my mind. As a black woman from the United States, I constantly experience the repercussions of living in a society with race heavily etched into its social make-up. So, when I prepared to move to China, the fear of racism, discrimination, and prejudice became an imminent concern.

So, what was the first thing I did as I packed my bags? I did what any other sensible person would do when faced with complex, nuanced problems such as race and identity: I googled “Being Black in China.” What I found simultaneously shocked and reassured me.

Racism, discrimination, prejudice were all red-hot words that caused many people’s blood to boil. I read accounts of foreigners visiting or living in another country with the fear that they will experience issues of social, even racial, tension. This seemed to be especially true of people of black, African, or African-American descent, who notoriously experience racism, as minorities in other countries.

I found comments on China’s social media site, Weibo, calling Africans “devils” or stating that they hated Africans, who are permanently or living long-term in China. I also found comments of users describing “high-quality” light-skinned black girls, versus “ugly” dark-skinned black girls. However, I also found accounts of black foreigners, who found living in China an exceptionally pleasant and rewarding experience.

So, incidentally, my Google search didn’t give me a definitive answer to the question of how black people experience China. Today, after living in China for almost a year, I reached the conclusion that there is no definite answer.

Thus, when one of my colleagues wrote an article titled Being Black in China, I read it excitedly, but hesitantly.

TWOC’s recent article, Being Black in China, explored the world of black and Chinese social relations, through an interview with Jennifer Bonne: an athlete from the Seychelles, who currently studies at Beijing Sports University.

Bonne offered her perspective on living in Beijing and interacting with Chinese people:

“I don’t know maybe it is because I am self confident, but I feel proud; I feel here like I am one in a million. I feel special and there is a typical spotlight, but, let’s say, it is something positive rather than negative.”

Jennifer’s experience and perspective, while completely valid and respected, represents only one perspective of the black experience in China. Like myself, several others noted the article focused on one person. Naturally, the article elicited a flurry of response from many of our readers in the world of social media.

“Coincidentally you’ve chosen to write from the perspective of someone who seems to ignore the bigotry that happens to them or doesn’t take it as seriously as others might,” stated a Tumblr netizen.

In order to address the many passionate comments of our readers, I interviewed black, African, and African-American students at Beijing, University.


Kendall Tyson (far left) and Peking University Students

Similarly to Jennifer, many of the students were enthusiastic about studying at Beijing, University. They too experienced the celebrity-like attention and often found the curiosity from locals endearing, rather than insulting.

“I can sense that Chinese are so curious; when they see you, they touch your hair, they took pictures,” explained Hanatalovldona Ramahalosa, a student from Madagascar.

However, Ramahalosa also described a devastating experience of her friend traveling in rural China.

“They asked him to speak, because they wanted to make sure he was human. He said he was never coming back to China,” Ramahalosa recalls.

Ramahalosa’ roommate, Syuzan, interjected that racism is more prevalent in the rural regions of China. In larger cities, such as Beijing, which has experienced an influx of foreigners, since the 2008 Olympics, the blatant racism is less prevalent.

However, Syuzan, also pointed out that this doesn’t extend to a lack of prejudice in the workforce: “You can’t find a job teaching [English] if you are black.”

In many cases, Chinese people seem to want white language partners. To many black and African people living in China, this isn’t a new thought. I’ve seen several signs in cafés and dormitories asking for tutors, yet adding the disclaimer that only white male Canadians or Americans apply.

“They don’t realize that so much of Canada and the US is black,” laughed Ramahalosa.


Kendall Tyson (woman on right) at a language partner mixer in Wudaokou, Beijing

Seemingly, much of the racism or prejudice seems to stem from a lack of knowledge about black people. When speaking to my teacher at Beijing, University, a Chinese woman, she explained that most of what she knew about black people was from movies, in which they were usually criminals or athletes.

Nearly all of the interviews mentioned the perception that many Chinese people are afraid of black or African males. Armand Holmes, both a writer at TWOC and student at Beijing, University explained that he also experienced the misconception of the black male criminal.

Once, while walking at Beijing, University with several friends, Holmes walked toward the trashcan to throw something out. He didn’t notice a Chinese woman standing next to the bin. However, the woman clearly noticed him walking toward her and screamed. Despite the fact that she was on a crowded street and Armand was with several friends, she still viewed him as a threat.

On the other hand, Holmes frequently meets Chinese friends playing basketball on campus. In many ways, China seems to suffer from placing black men in two categories: a threat or a basketball superstar.


Armand Holmes (middle) at a bar partying with new Chinese friends

The common misconceptions of black woman are less easily defined. Sometimes our skin is fawned over, other times we are told to not tan or to be more pale.

In the article where Bonne is interviewed, she jokes about the lack of darker foundation and black hair products in China. While this is presented as a light problem, it reflects the larger difficulty of living in a society, where white is still the epitome of beauty.

Personally, I’ve had Chinese women tell me I should use whitening soap; however, I’ve also had people tell me that the only reason I am able to get a job in China as a teacher is because I don’t look too dark. My Irish heritage from my mother’s side of the family definitely shines through. With hazel eyes and light brown curly hair, I obviously have a little something-something mixed in me.

Of course, this doesn’t mean that all Chinese people find dark skin unappealing. Bonne, as well as several of the Beijing, University interviewees mentioned intercultural dating. However, while spotting black and Chinese couples isn’t impossible, it presents its own difficulties from strange looks to familial disapproval.

“My grandparents would never want me to marry a black person,” a Beijing University student of Chinese heritage explained.

Over and over again, in the conversation about black and Chinese relations, I’ve heard the word “curiosity,” or “ignorance.” While some black people don’t find the reactions they receive from Chinese people offensive, some have had truly troubling experiences. Like any country, ethnic relations in China are complex.

As one blogger explained: “It’s up to the person who experienced the prejudice or the racism to call it what it is.”

Maybe you should start your own "Black Life Matter" in China too, or are you only care about black in a foreign land?? Again, unless you actually go start a Black Life Matter Chinese Chapter, you are a hypocrite for calling yourself A supporter of Black Life Matter and a supporter of All Life Equal.

Some people are ignorant in every country, so what?

If you've ever met a black person before, you'll know that they are exactly the same as every other human being. Same self-confidence, same self-doubts, just like everyone else.

And I don't need to start a "Black lives matter" in Hong Kong, because HK police don't go shooting them down every other day. Their biggest complaint here is people using the phrase HG and I agree nobody should say that.

 

[jhungary]

Some people are ignorant in every country, so what?

If you've ever met a black person before, you'll know that they are exactly the same as every other human being. Same self-confidence, same self-doubts, just like everyone else.

And I don't need to start a "Black lives matter" in Hong Kong, because HK police don't go shooting them down every other day. Their biggest complaint here is people using the phrase HG and I agree nobody should say that.

So when did the US police shoot the black people EVERYOTHER DAY? If you say since Hong Kong Police does not shoot Black people every other day, therefore there are no reason for HK to have Black Life Matter. Then is it a bit hypocritical to support one in the US too?

Police shooting (On black, white or Asian) are very rare in the US, there are 571 Police shooting This year. And guess how many of those are found unjust? 3. They are

The shooting of Greg Gunn on Feb 2016
The shooting of David Joseph on Feb 8, 2016
The shooting of Daniel Shaver on Jan 26, 2016

Of the 3 where the officer was found unjust, only Greg Gunn and David Joseph were black, also with another 4 under investigation including the Alton Sterling and Philando Castile

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...killings-us-database#philando-castile-2016566

Now, do tell me when did the Cop in US shooting Black people every other day? Consider US have roughly 55 times the population then Hong kong, 571 police shooting is not exactly a large number.

Black Live Matter were never about police "executing" black man on the street, it was always about civil rights and discrimination against black people in the US.

So, either you are ignorant about the situation, or you are a hypocrite to only look at problem outside your home. Take your pick.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

So when did the US police shoot the black people EVERYOTHER DAY? If you say since Hong Kong Police does not shoot Black people every other day, therefore there are no reason for HK to have Black Life Matter. Then is it a bit hypocritical to support one in the US too?

Police shooting (On black, white or Asian) are very rare in the US, there are 571 Police shooting This year. And guess how many of those are found unjust? 3. They are

The shooting of Greg Gunn on Feb 2016
The shooting of David Joseph on Feb 8, 2016
The shooting of Daniel Shaver on Jan 26, 2016

Of the 3 where the officer was found unjust, only Greg Gunn and David Joseph were black, also with another 4 under investigation including the Alton Sterling and Philando Castile

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...killings-us-database#philando-castile-2016566

Now, do tell me when did the Cop in US shooting Black people every other day? Consider US have roughly 55 times the population, 571 police shooting is not exactly a large number.

Black Live Matter were never about police "executing" black man on the street, it was always about civil rights and discrimination against black people in the US.

So, either you are ignorant about the situation, or you are a hypocrite to only look at problem outside your home. Take your pick.

Do you ever read the international news?

It is full of stories of black people being shot by police in America. Not in Hong Kong.

I agree some Chinese people are ignorant when it comes to foreigners, I always make sure to correct people when they say things like HG because it is just plain rude. But they are not being gunned down by the HK police, so it's a pretty ridiculous comparison.

 

[jhungary]

Do you ever read the international news?

It is full of stories of black people being shot by police in America. Not in Hong Kong.

I agree some Chinese people are ignorant when it comes to foreigners, I always make sure to correct people when they say things like HG because it is just plain rude. But they are not being gunned down by the HK police, so it's a pretty ridiculous comparison.

Dude, how do you define "Full of Stories"? Let's see

As I point out, there are only 571 police shooting in the US resulting Casualty, "Full of Stories" can be no more than 571, and of those, only 3 were unjust, 4 were under investigation. I don't think Police legitimate shooting black people or anyone during a commission of a crime (Which occurred 564 times) would be making international headline. So, technically, there are 7 or a bit more dodgy shot which turns out to be legit that makes international headline, still, even if all 571 shooting make International headline, that is not full of stories. As I said, US have a population of 320 MILLIONS. 571 shooting is not exactly a large number.

Again, you know nothing about how Policing and Black Community works, you even know up until now, the primary group being killed by Police is American Indian instead of black? Talk about hypocrisy

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Dude, how do you define "Full of Stories"? Let's see

As I point out, there are only 571 police shooting in the US resulting Casualty, "Full of Stories" can be no more than 571, and of those, only 3 were unjust, 4 were under investigation. I don't think Police legitimate shooting black people or anyone during a commission of a crime (Which occurred 564 times) would be making international headline. So, technically, there are 7 or a bit more dodgy shot which turns out to be legit that makes international headline, still, even if all 571 shooting make International headline, that is not full of stories. As I said, US have a population of 320 MILLIONS. 571 shooting is not exactly a large number.

Again, you know nothing about how Policing and Black Community works, you even know up until now, the primary group being killed by Police is American Indian instead of black? Talk about hypocrisy

Do you think I see any real difference in White Americans and Black Americans?

They are both Americans to me, no difference. Same with Americans of Native American descent, Chinese descent, Middle Eastern descent, Hispanic descent, they are all Americans to me, no difference.

I support Black lives matter, Blue/cops lives matter, and All lives matter, because they all matter exactly the same.

 

[jhungary]

Do you think I see any real difference in White Americans and Black Americans?

They are both Americans to me, no difference. Same with Americans of Native American descent, Chinese descent, Middle Eastern descent, Hispanic descent, they are all Americans to me, no difference.

I support Black lives matter, Blue/cops lives matter, and All lives matter, because they all matter exactly the same.

dude, are you on drugs??

What the hell are you talking about?? How about Criminal Life Matter? Or Terrorist Live Matter? All of these criminal along with a few terrorist is American too.

As I said, you are really being hypocrisy

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

dude, are you on drugs??

What the hell are you talking about?? How about Criminal Life Matter? Or Terrorist Live Matter? All of these criminal along with a few terrorist is American too.

As I said, you are really being hypocrisy

My position is very clear, all lives matter equally, regardless of ethnicity, religion or nationality.

Whereas you are the one getting extremely upset at anyone who supports Black lives matter.

As I said, you are really being hypocrisy

What does this sentence even mean? Do you mean "being hypocritical"?

 

[jhungary]

My position is very clear, all lives matter equally, regardless of ethnicity, religion or nationality.

Whereas you are the one getting extremely upset at anyone who supports Black lives matter.

Am I getting upset?

As I said, I don't really care about all these political correct stuff, I am just talking about how you come to be a hypocrite and comment on something you have absolutely no idea.

What does this sentence even mean? Do you mean "being hypocritical"?

That mean I should not use iPhone anymore. That was autocorrect and I am too tired to care, it's almost 5 am here.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Am I getting upset?

As I said, I don't really care about all these political correct stuff, I am just talking about how you come to be a hypocrite and comment on something you have absolutely no idea.



That mean I should not use iPhone anymore. That was autocorrect and I am too tired to care, it's almost 5 am here.

I support Black lives matter because I believe black lives are equally as valuable as White/Hispanic/Asian lives.

I don't know why you are so upset about that.

Being black is something a person is born with, they can't change it. So it's wrong to discriminate against someone for something they were born with.

Being a criminal/terrorist on the other hand is a choice, they were not born with it, they chose to do it, and must suffer legal consequences for it.

 

[Desert Fox]

Uh, what are you talking about?

@Desert Fox is our resident Neo-Nazi supporter, his previous avatar was of a Nazi. He has always had a problem with black people, referring to them as despicable and subhuman in the last few days alone.

I'm arguing against that view, Hell I'm a supporter of the Black lives matter movement. Like @Desert Fox secretly wants to be.

You're still but hurt by me??

If you support a movement of thugs such as BLM then it is safe to assume you also support the ETLM in Xinjiang.

Martin Luther King was a genuine civil rights activist who actually brought positive change. Meanwhile your beloved BLM destroy their own neighborhoods & businesses by rioting and looting.

 

[Oldman1]

You're still but hurt by me??

If you support a movement of thugs such as BLM then it is safe to assume you also support the ETLM in Xinjiang.

Martin Luther King was a genuine civil rights activist who actually brought positive change. Meanwhile your beloved BLM destroy their own neighborhoods & businesses by rioting and looting.

 

[Desert Fox]

Why are you so upset about my support of Black lives matter?

Would you support an organization that supported the murder of Chinese police men??

Weren't you the one whining when the Turks were cheering the terrorist attacks on Chinese in Xinjiang??

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Would you support an organization that supported the murder of Chinese police men??

Weren't you the one whining when the Turks were cheering the terrorist attacks on Chinese in Xinjiang??

And when did Black lives matter actually kill anyone?