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Mass brawl between right-wing group and anti-fascists as race riots spill onto streets of Birmingham
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 3:22 PM on 09th August 2009

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Police arrested 33 people during a clash between anti-fascists and a right-wing group as the centre of Birmingham turned into a war zone yesterday.
Terrified shoppers cowered in fear as a group came into violent contact with Unite Against Fascism marchers in a violent brawl that dominated the streets.

The so-called English and Welsh Defence League and Casuals United formed after British soldiers were abused by Islamic radicals at a homecoming parade in Luton earlier this year.
But Unite Against Fascism claim that the Casuals are made up of members of far-right groups and had planned to cause racial unrest in the city.

Two people were injured, according to West Midlands Police, and there were several reports of criminal damage including a car.

A force spokesman said the majority of the arrests were for disorder.
Scores of officers were involved in policing the rival protests, which had gathered near Birmingham's Bullring shopping complex around 7pm.
Gary Nichols watched the disturbances from his city centre flat and said he was unable to go outside for about two and a half hours.
He told the BBC: 'It started off with a group of white guys who were chanting, 'England, England'. I thought they were just football fans, but then a larger group of black and Asian people turned up and it all kicked off.
'You had people burning the Union flag. People were being kicked - some of them weren't anything to do with the protests.
'It all seemed to be very systematic - groups were arriving in cars and getting involved in the violence.'
Broken banners were left scattered on the ground outside the Bullring following the disorder.
West Midlands Police said they believed the English and Welsh Defence League and and Casuals United protesters gathered after communicating on social networking sites.
Footage from yesterday's event showed members singing the national anthem in the city centre.
Eyewitness Emily Bridgewater was shopping when violence broke out.

She said: 'Everything seemed fine until suddenly it all kicked off outside and there was stampeding and screaming.

'We ended up being locked in Primark, the shutters came down and the alarms went off as the riot police tried to regain control of the street.

'It was very frightening.'
Today Chief Inspector Mark Payne, from West Midlands Police, said there were 35 arrests, mainly for disorder.

Three people were injured and there were several reports of damage, including a car.

He said the force will consider applying for injunctions to stop troublemakers travelling to the West Midlands.

Ch Insp Payne said: 'As part of this investigation, police will be studying photographs and video images and will be arresting and prosecuting anyone identified found to be engaged in acts of criminality.

'We will also look at applying for injunctions to prevent people travelling to the West Midlands who are intent on causing trouble.'

He said the number of arrests may increase as investigations continue, and more reports come in to police.

'The events of yesterday are a very rare occurrence and normal city centre life resumed within a short space of time, he added.

'I want to reassure all members of the community that the city centre is, and will continue to be a safe place to live, shop and visit.

'It is important to be aware that West Midlands Police have no powers to ban or stop peaceful protests and would not seek to do so.

'However, if criminal acts or racially aggravated incidents are reported, then police will arrest and prosecute anyone found to be responsible.'

Local MP Khalid Mahmood, who had called for the Casuals march to be banned, said:
'I predicted this would happen when the Casuals announced their protest.
'Lots of innocent people, children and families, could have been hurt in this idiotic incident and I wholeheartedly condemn both sides for taking part in these scenes which have brought shame on Birmingham.'
He added: 'I condemn the Casuals for organising their protest and inciting this fighting but I equally condemn the anti-fascist campaigners who rose to the bait.
'People have a democratic right to protest. But perhaps in future West Midlands police should look at holding sensitive demonstrations on separate days.

'That way they might avoid the scenes which have blighted our city centre tonight.
The Unite Against Fascism march had been previously discussed with officers, the force said.
One shopper, who declined to be named, said broken banners were left scattered on the ground outside the Bullring following the disorder.

Police had vowed to deal robustly with anyone acting outside the law at the protests.
West Midlands Police said an investigation was being carried out into any criminality during the two separate protests.

A spokesman said although no formal request to march was submitted, they were aware of a group who planned to visit Birmingham to protest against Islamic fundamentalism.

Discussion and planning on online social networking sites led police to believe the group involved was the English and Welsh Defence League, or Casuals United.

The spokesman said it was aware of speculation that the group is linked to the British National Party (BNP), but no information or intelligence had been received to support that.

The group's website refers to itself as "an alliance of normal British people of various different colours/races who have come together in order to create a massive, but peaceful protest group to force our Government to get their act in gear."

A special post about the Birmingham demonstration called for supporters to make their voices heard but not get involved in violence.

It said: "If attacked we defend ourselves but we are there for a PEACEFUL PROTEST."

Police said the counter protest in Birmingham was organised by Unite Against Fascism.

The national group describes itself as aiming to alert British society to the rising threat of the extreme right, in particular the BNP.

A West Midlands Police spokesman said the group's leader co-operated with police throughout planning for the event.

Related link: Police arrest 31 at demonstration against Islamic fundamentalism | Mail Online
 
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The mail along with the sun are the biggest bull5hitters in the UK.....i watched it on tv,there was a small group of about 20-30 people chanting and then an organized anti facist march turned up at the same time and a scuffle broke out.....no race riot..nothing of the sort.
 
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ow! dabong1 you runied it for chicken little...
 
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Witness the systematic oppression and racism that befell Nazi Germany, befall Europe.... people today asked why did the Germans let the Nazis take over. They only need to look within themselves for that answer!

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UK's BNP the modern day remake of the SS-brown shirts!
 
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Alright i DESPISE the BNP and i hate them to the core.. But its utterly disgraceful at the same time if your in another country and you humiliate their countries troops, not only is it disrespectful its absolutely offensive. How would you like it if some foriegners came to Pakistan and started saying Pakistani Troops are murderers.

Why don't you protest respectfully? instead of acting like Islami jihadi nutjob and humiliating the countries troops that has given you residence and the freedom to protest. If you hate Britain so much leave

Absolutely nonsense.. these kind of Islamic protests are the reasons the BNP gets votes..
 
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Alright i DESPISE the BNP and i hate them to the core.. But its utterly disgraceful at the same time if your in another country and you humiliate their countries troops, not only is it disrespectful its absolutely offensive. How would you like it if some foriegners came to Pakistan and started saying Pakistani Troops are murderers.

Why don't you protest respectfully? instead of acting like Islami jihadi nutjob and humiliating the countries troops that has given you residence and the freedom to protest. If you hate Britain so much leave

Absolutely nonsense.. these kind of Islamic protests are the reasons the BNP gets votes..

More disturbing is the racist cries of the "spectators". Did you even bother reading the comments of the Youtube video, go through them. What ever happened to "Freedom of Speech", "Freedom of Protest", "Freedom of Conscience"???

........... NAZI 2.0 in the making. :hang2: :no:
 
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So the TRUE face of Anglos appears. Is this what they wish to portray to the entire world before the London 2012 Games?! If they "claim" England to be "their" country and scream for all "foreigners" to "GET OUT"..... perhaps they can start be doing the same. Start with North Ireland, then USA, then Canada, then Oz, then NZ, then South Africa, then all those countries where they are the minority.

So much for human rights, respecting & treating their victims nice, good conscience, and "civilized" behaviour. All this goes out the window to make room for Racist, Fascist BNP.

RESPECT SHOULD BE MUTUAL, BOYS & GIRLS! :)
 
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The mail along with the sun are the biggest bull5hitters in the UK.....i watched it on tv,there was a small group of about 20-30 people chanting and then an organized anti facist march turned up at the same time and a scuffle broke out.....no race riot..nothing of the sort.

Not sure about the mail, but The Sun is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. which also owns Fox News.

News Corp. is one the most extreme right wing media companies out there.
 
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Not sure about the mail, but The Sun is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. which also owns Fox News.

News Corp. is one the most extreme right wing media companies out there.

Essentially, nearly ALL of these Lamestream Media are owned by the same handful -- ownership & control however is not 'direct', they use proxies, subsidiaries and (chains of) intermediaries to cover-up this fact. :pop::pop::pop::pop:
 
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So the TRUE face of Anglos appears. Is this what they wish to portray to the entire world before the London 2012 Games?! If they "claim" England to be "their" country and scream for all "foreigners" to "GET OUT"..... perhaps they can start be doing the same. Start with North Ireland, then USA, then Canada, then Oz, then NZ, then South Africa, then all those countries where they are the minority.

So much for human rights, respecting & treating their victims nice, good conscience, and "civilized" behaviour. All this goes out the window to make room for Racist, Fascist BNP.

RESPECT SHOULD BE MUTUAL, BOYS & GIRLS! :)


Tell that to the commies who are trying to install filtering software on all Chinese computers.

How about I settle down in China and protest at the killing of civilians in Urumqi? oh wait, never mind. I think we both know what happens then.

These people should be pushed into the sea. They live in a foreign country and instead of respecting their ideals, they disrespect those who are making the ultimate sacrifice for the nation.

Why target the soldiers anyway? why not the politicians who make the decisions?

They're simply making matters worse for themselves. They could have protested the war, but instead of garnering public support, they make themselves look like a bunch of ranting jihadi idiots, its always religion. Why give a religious twist to everything? They need a PR manager like no other. These people tarnish the image of Islam more than a fascist could ever hope to.

They are setting themselves up.
 
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More disturbing is the racist cries of the "spectators". Did you even bother reading the comments of the Youtube video, go through them. What ever happened to "Freedom of Speech", "Freedom of Protest", "Freedom of Conscience"???

........... NAZI 2.0 in the making. :hang2: :no:

Freedom of Speech does not mean that you become a hooligan. You are free to protest and you are free to say what you like but do so in a sophisticated manner. Send a letter to the times, Go on television have a constructive debate, have a proper sophisticated protest. These people are merely exploiting freedom of speech. Its offensive and demeaning to call a countries troops murderers who have give you residence, healthcare AND freedom of speech.

If they hate Britain so much they can go and live in Saudia Arabia and lets see how these guys protest against the arabs who will gladly cut their reproductive organs. The British people are getting tired of Islamic fundees protesting about everything. It will be people like these who will vote for BNP a racist, facist party.. and who would you blame for that?

You dont call your countries troops murderers end of story, Troops are people who make the ultimate sacrifice for their countries. Dam right the Brits have every right to be pissed at these arzeholes. Go protest In China and defame the chinese troops and lets see what happens to you Mr. Sinoindusfriendship. Be happy that Britian has laws which allows you to protest and Defame its troops. These Fundees are nothing but leeches who are leeching a country that has given them things they need to live like a human being. They are more than welcome to get out and live with their Wahabi brothers in Saudi.
 
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Tell that to the commies who are trying to install filtering software on all Chinese computers.

How about I settle down in China and protest at the killing of civilians in Urumqi? oh wait, never mind. I think we both know what happens then.

These people should be pushed into the sea. They live in a foreign country and instead of respecting their ideals, they disrespect those who are making the ultimate sacrifice for the nation.

Why target the soldiers anyway? why not the politicians who make the decisions?

They're simply making matters worse for themselves. They could have protested the war, but instead of garnering public support, they make themselves look like a bunch of ranting jihadi idiots, its always religion. Why give a religious twist to everything? They need a PR manager like no other. These people tarnish the image of Islam more than a fascist could ever hope to.

They are setting themselves up.

What is a "Commie" my little Hindu friend? And how is a Commie different from a Non-commie? Finally, why is a Commie so "evil"? Care to elaborate. :)

So you will be willing to settle in China and protest AGAINST the WUC & Rebiya Kadeer? If you can do that great! :smitten:

Well if you are going to "push these people into the sea", think about this: Imagine say the Iraq-Iran-Afghan went on a propaganda rampage in UK, bombing spree, rape spree.... total destruction, you name it! Do you think all the Anglo expats and Anglos who live in foreign countries (Arabs included) wouldn't be upset?! Come on boy, if your own kinship/tribe/race/etc is being attacked you would protest as well.

It's just that it hasn't been India's turn yet --- don't worry, these 'Morally Superior' white folks can't tell you P-a-k-i-s (this is a racial slur) from you Hindus/Indians. That is why this is a problem - a serious problem, i.e. collective punishment/humiliation/torture/killings/rape/theft/bombings.....

Finally, yes these Muslims are making themselves look bad, but those racist rednecks Anglos aren't doing a swell PR job either! :woot:

England's foreign policy has been hijacked by a kabal of judeofacists. The political & economic system is corrupted like hell. Fix these problems first. And BNP is not the solution they are a cancer, just like the SS brownshirts / Nazis! :cheers:
 
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Freedom of Speech does not mean that you become a hooligan.

There were more skin-head, neo-nazi, pro-BNP hooligans than there were P-aki - arab - muslim - hindu - black hooligans. Did you even read those comments?!

How was the peaceful protest "wrong"??? The fighting didn't happen until these right-wing BNP supporters started agitating, yelling racial slurs, and ganging up.

Its offensive and demeaning to call a countries troops murderers who have give you residence, healthcare AND (not) freedom of speech.

It may be offensive and demeaning, but it is TRUE. It's even MORE offensive and demeaning AND DE-HUMANIZING what they are doing to Iraqis, Afghans & Pakistanis. You don't realize that it is the rest of the world that is "subsidizing" UK through royalty, interest, 'fees' that date to their colonial reign. That's right, all these monies to Africa is LESS THAN from African to UK. Sorry dude, but you know little about UK's "economy".

And just because they get some "benefits" doesn't mean they have to sell out their principles. I agree they don't look very "mainstream" with their long shirts and baggy pants, long beards, and dark faces..... :angel:
 
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There were more skin-head, neo-nazi, pro-BNP hooligans than there were P-aki - arab - muslim - hindu - black hooligans. Did you even read those comments?!

How was the peaceful protest "wrong"??? The fighting didn't happen until these right-wing BNP supporters started agitating, yelling racial slurs, and ganging up.

Stop defending the Wahabi idiots. Let me put it this way.. If i see some Islamic fundees saying garbage, calling my troops murderers and rapists i would probably want those guys killed and out of my country. The citizens of that country will get angry and pissed and have every right to stop those bullshitter's. If these Fundees didn't come out chanting stupid arse slogans defaming the countries very people who put their lives on the risk you wouldn't have these neo nazi's coming out.

The fact that you have posters like ANGLICAN SOLDIERS ARE MURDERERS is not Racist in your eyes? Stop showing your double standard face. If a bunch of White folks started protesting in China that Small Eyed soldiers are murderers they wouldn't last 2 mins and would be killed on the spot. Your Double standard is quiet baffling to say the least.. These leeches should be happy they can protest freely without getting their hands chopped off... So much for freedom of expression eh? Talk about exploitation of freedom of expression, these leeches when confronted hide behind freedom of expression, yet its not OK for others to than criticize them. The British have every right to be angry and pissed at these hooligans for chanting slogans of death and humiliation (not protest) on every corner of the street every freakin time.


It may be offensive and demeaning, but it is TRUE. It's even MORE offensive and demeaning AND DE-HUMANIZING what they are doing to Iraqis, Afghans & Pakistanis. You don't realize that it is the rest of the world that is "subsidizing" UK through royalty, interest, 'fees' that date to their colonial reign. That's right, all these monies to Africa is LESS THAN from African to UK. Sorry dude, but you know little about UK's "economy".

And just because they get some "benefits" doesn't mean they have to sell out their principles. I agree they don't look very "mainstream" with their long shirts and baggy pants, long beards, and dark faces..... :angel:

Principles.. What principles are you talking about? Going out and defaming a countries troops are principles? Buddy! If i saw some Islamic Fundee calling humiliating and chanting slogans of hate, murder and rape on Pakistani or Canadian troops i would be the first to throw a nice big rock on his face. There is a difference between principles and common courtesy. You live in a good country, you get healthcare, you get great education, you get a good economically and politically stable country and you have majority of the people who are extremely kind and helpful and this is how you treat your new countries military personnel? Its not sticking to your principles its called leeching and taking advantage of rights given to you. These people lack common courtesy and are nothing but a bunch of wife beaters. If you hate them so much leave, why live there and turn the place into a **** hole..

There is a difference between criticism and downright humiliation. You can criticize the politicians and the military but you have no right to humiliate and say that your troops are murderers and chanting death slogans to a countries troops end of story. British troops don't go around murdering or raping people, they are bounded by military law and are put to trial in a court if found to be guilty. In this WoT (or what ever you want to call it) the British troops have been fairly respectable towards others.
 
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England's foreign policy has been hijacked by a kabal of judeofacists. The political & economic system is corrupted like hell. Fix these problems first. And BNP is not the solution they are a cancer, just like the SS brownshirts / Nazis! :cheers:

England's Foreign policy has been VERY liberal. They should have made it super hard to get citizenship in the first place to keep the Fundees away from their country. Fundees shouldn't be in ANY country period. Its about time they strengthen their immigration laws and keep the bad beans out. BNP is NOT the solution, BnP is a racist, nazi fascist Party but its these fundees that are the power house behind the BNP's rise recently.

I would like to see these Wahabi idiots protest like this defaming American troops in America and see what happens to them, they'd probably get taserd in their groins and sent to Guantanamo bay where they belong.

The British are to nice :agree:
 
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