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[Chak Bamu]

Kindly dont present your imaginative fantasies, conjectures, half-baked theories as some kind of absolute facts

Do you forget that SHAHBAZ sharif interview in which He openly claimed Establishment offered him the government before 2018 GE and he was ready ! and he was about to become PM? That interview is still on youtube for you to watch.

What are absolute facts? PML-N leadership meeting American General consulate in Lahore in late FEB and MARCH. They were actively aided to throw IK under the bus.

The pictures of PML N leaders meeting americans are on their twitter feeds. What a shameful thing to do

1. I do not present anything without being certain of it; else I would put a conditional statement. I have often dilated on the above, but I don't think I can change your mind about it.

2. Yes, SS was offered PM-ship under minus one formula, but he declined. This is pretty well-known.

3. Pictures of PTI leaders meeting US diplomatic staff are also available. Do you want to see them?

4. The whole Amreeki saazhish theory is being blown out of proportion. IK has changed his statements about it, going from an American letter to diplomatic cable. Also, you've been living in Qatar for a while now. If you have contacts in the Embassy (I did when I lived there 1997-8 & 2000-2004), you may wish to talk with them. My feedback is that blowing hot & cold about a diplomatic cable is damaging to the trust of a diplomatic relation. IK, in his quest to hang on to power, has done a good deal of damage to Pakistan's diplomatic channels. Who would trust our diplomats to keep matters discreet?

Look, I am not saying that Americans have nothing to do with the change of government. They'd likely be happy to see his back, especially after his ill-timed visit to Russia & for seeming to prop Putin when he launched attack on Ukraine. What I am utterly amazed about is the fact that Putin played us like a pawn & yet all our anger is focused on America & not a bit on Putin? Why? We should at least be disappointed that he launched his war precisely when Pakistan's PM was starting his visit. Instead of cutting his visit short, IK went ahead to lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier! In my view IK failed the visit in flying colors. Why could we not be diplomatically neutral, especially when we have been been treated like a pawn by Russians? People here do not talk about this at all, because 99.5% ppl are so in love with IK that they can not even tolerate to think in realistic terms.

IK is gone because he messed up & our Militablishment used him as a scapegoat. Well that is just tough. Had he been less of a divisive figure, there'd be greater support for him. But no. I am glad he is gone. He was incompetent in many ways. Serves Militablishment right for foisting him upon us.

Cheers ... I just hope that would have reflected in your political postings.

I am sorry. I could not provide you a reflection to your liking. But I like to put important things first. In my view Civ-Mil tussle is more important than who gets to sit in the PM chair.

 

[PakistaniFirst]

Rumor is the Neutrals are concerns about the public twitter response on the ISPR page when ISPR tweeted about Shaheen 3 test. Neutrals believe Arsalan Khalid is behind that twitter uproar.

Read replies under this tweet to understand the situation:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1512710884518359042

bajwa and co dont understand basic things. This fiasco has made me believe that these people are either too dumb or have gone nuts facing the massive uproar from common pakistanis, i am using word of common pakistani because uptill now only die hard fans of a political party would speak for their leaders but this time SILENT MAJORITY is speaking against bajwa and co.
Some replies on this tweet would have been doctored but it doesnot take a einstein to see that these replies are from common man from their hearts.

 

[Chak Bamu]

If you wanted to copy paste Indian and khooni liberal propaganda, you could have done it anywhere on the net anonymously.

This is the truth that you do not want to acknowledge. That is why you'd rather abuse than address the actual causes. Read more, yell less.

 

[ziaulislam]

I read many of your recent political opinions and there is only one thing comes to mind after reading those posts.

I strongly felt that you started following politics of Pakistan only after 2018.

You definitely were not of newspaper reading age before year 2000.

Lol
Anyone who followed politics from 1985-2000 will feel absolutely disgusted by nawaz sharif & PPPP
Anyone followed it after 2008 will feel hopeless seeing how people support corruption
Afterall we are unique nation to say
کھاتا ہے تو لگاتا بے ہے

And

علیم خان کو نیب نے کرپشن پر پکڑا ہے ٹو وه تو بے قصور ہے

Instead of orasing PTI for not interfering with JT/aleem khan inquiries people prasie them to be corrupt

This is nation situation

We probably should learn about how is bad corruption from christians as we dont follow hadiath or believe it anyway(nazubillah)

Had we believed in it there would have been outroar on how people were sold on camera

 

[TheSolution]

No wonder bengal got made
I guess now i know why

Read shahab nama and you will know why

Do you have a PDF link for this? Or do I need to buy it?

 

[ghazi52]

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[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Kindly dont present your imaginative fantasies, conjectures, half-baked theories as some kind of absolute facts

Do you forget that SHAHBAZ sharif interview in which He openly claimed Establishment offered him the government before 2018 GE and he was ready ! and he was about to become PM? That interview is still on youtube for you to watch.

What are absolute facts? PML-N leadership meeting American General consulate in Lahore in late FEB and MARCH. They were actively aided to throw IK under the bus.

The pictures of PML N leaders meeting americans are on their twitter feeds. What a shameful thing to do

If we're going to argue that Bajwa manipulated the 2018 elections, then, given recent events, it is more likely that his interference was to limit the PTI's success in said elections and therefore prevent it from getting a clear majority on its own, forcing it to depend on shady electables and individuals under the control of the Army leadership - a plug that could pulled when needed, given how stubborn and obstinate Imran Khan is (unlikely to follow COAS diktat).

 

[PakSarZameen47]

Glade most pakistanis now understand what happened
Instead of calling mujeeb a traitor

No Mujib was a traitor KGB trained communist stooge that was againt the idea of Pakistan from the beginning. He should have been arrested when Agartala saazish was caught but instead he was allowed to conduct elections. He along with his sponsors created Mukhti Bani in this time which was used to slaughter Biharis and engage PA in war whilst India came to attack from other side. Bhutto also heavily involved and wanted power over unity. Let's not change history now.

Imran Khan is a Patriot , there's literally no comparison

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

My feedback is that blowing hot & cold about a diplomatic cable is damaging to the trust of a diplomatic relation.

What is even more damaging to diplomatic relations is a foreign diplomat demeaning an outgoing ambassador and said ambassador's country and government and threatening said country with consequences and essentially demanding that the government be overthrown.

Perhaps take some time out to actually understand who broke diplomatic norms and made statements that could be taken as nothing else but naked threats and foreign interference to bring in a corrupt puppet regime.

 

[Rank]

to all PMLN mchomans... assumed this united foreign supported tabar continue their control over the state .. SS as PM, Hamza as CM, Khusra as FM n all and sudden what if Mil esb will do the same (throw this tabar through similar systemetic way), tu inkay uswaqt kya raye hosakhti hey ya hogi really wanted to know lol

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

to all PMLN mchomans... assumed this united foreign supported tabar continue their control over the state .. SS as PM, Hamza as CM, Khusra as FM n all and sudden what if Mil esb will do the same (throw this tabar through similar systemetic way), tu inkay uswaqt kya raye hosakhti hey ya hogi really wanted to know lol

Why would they overthrow this corrupt tubbar? They have cases and dirt against all of them that they can reopen whenever they feel like anyone is getting out of line, the rest of the country suffering from their corruption and mismanagement be damned.

IMO, Bajwa never really wanted Imran Khan in power and did what he could to limit the PTI's seats in the 2018 election to keep IK weak and dependent on people whose loyalty could be bought.

 

[Rank]

Why would they overthrow this corrupt tubbar? They have cases and dirt against all of them that they can reopen whenever they feel like anyone is getting out of line, the rest of the country suffering from their corruption and mismanagement be damned.

IMO, Bajwa never really wanted Imran Khan in power and did what he could to limit the PTI's seats in the 2018 election to keep IK weak and dependent on people whose loyalty could be bought.

I heard that JT initially tried hard to convince IK not to form a govt because he practically can't do anything until he has 2/3 majo, but IK doesn't want to lose that opportunity for many reasons including greed for power, refused JT suggestion. Anyway, Again you didn't answer my question the one i am looking. what IF estab do the same with this imported selected tabar? I just need to know what could be the response from this bhanmati ka konmbaa if estb offset with the systematic way with a clear hint ya we are behind your removal.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I heard that JT initially tried hard to convince IK not to form a govt because he practically can't do anything until he has 2/3 majo, but IK doesn't want to lose that opportunity for many reasons including greed for power, refused JT suggestion. Anyway, Again you didn't answer my question the one i am looking. what IF estab do the same with this imported selected tabar? I just need to know what could be the response from this bhanmati ka konmbaa if estb offset with the systematic way with clear hint of who is behind ...

First off, I'm not sure I believe anything JT says, given that he betrayed Imran Khan and the PTI when the sugar commission and investigations into his business dealings highlighted irregularities,

I know a lot of people will disagree, but I think IK had to take the opportunity to form a government because many, many Pakistanis were disillusioned with the existing political parties and system and did not believe that a third party could come to power. The PTI government may not have delivered on all of its promises, but it delivered on many other things and allowed the PTI leadership to get public exposure and motivate a lot of people who may have:

(1) Chosen not to vote because they didn't believe a third party could beat PMLN & PPP
(2) Did not want to waste their vote on PTI and voted for PMLN or PPP because they didn't think PTI could win

As far as your question - these people will do nothing other than the same rhona dhona of 'vote ko izzat do' that the public will reject (as it did for the last 3 plus years for Chorni Safdar and her papa Bhagora Sharif) and their lifafas in the media will jump on the bandwagon to support them.

 

[Rank]

First off, I'm not sure I believe anything JT says, given that he betrayed Imran Khan and the PTI when the sugar commission and investigations into his business dealings highlighted irregularities,

I know a lot of people will disagree, but I think IK had to take the opportunity to form a government because many, many Pakistanis were disillusioned with the existing political parties and system and did not believe that a third party could come to power. The PTI government may not have delivered on all of its promises, but it delivered on many other things and allowed the PTI leadership to get public exposure and motivate a lot of people who may have:

(1) Chosen not to vote because they didn't believe a third party could beat PMLN & PPP
(2) Did not want to waste their vote on PTI and voted for PMLN or PPP because they didn't think PTI could win

As far as your question - these people will do nothing other than the same rhona dhona of 'vote ko izzat do' that the public will reject (as it did for the last 3 plus years for Chorni Safdar and her papa Bhagora Sharif) and their lifafas in the media will jump on the bandwagon to support them.

fair enough

 

[ghazi52]

Don't look like this, nation will not get together due to this.................