Breaking: Israeli air strikes kill 6 Palestinians in Gaza

[The SC]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7381358.stm

What do you want the Brits who have established Usrael in the middle east to say?

Here is the truth:
Usraelis like to introduce this war as an Israeli triumph. This is completely opposite to this war events. Israelis are employing their global biased media m/c to turn its disaster in this War into victory.
The YK war should be evaluated based on the following well-known Clausewitz' concepts
- War must never be seen as a purpose to itself, but as a means of physically forcing one's will on an opponent ("war is the continuation of politics through other means").

In addtion to the the above Clausewitz has classified the War objectives into two main categories:-
A- war to achieve limited aims
B- war to "disarm” the enemy: “to render [him] politically helpless or militarily impotent."

Knowing the Superiority of IDF (especially) in Air & armoured forces which was planned & executed by the unlimited support of US to Israel, Egypt selected "A" war class.

The Basic Egyptian army war mission was :-
1-Storming Suez Canal east Bank & demolishing IDF fortifications line ( Bar-leve Line]
2- Penetration of 5 to 6 miles deep in Sinai under the cover of the Egyptian anti Air missiles umbrella.
3- Sparking off an international crisis into which both USSR & US would be drawn. The Egyptian leadership hoped that the two superpowers would then force Israel into concessions acceptable to the Arabs.
4-If superpowers failed to intervene or were unable to force Israel to make the demanded concessions, The Arabs were to revert to "meat grinder" tactics against the stretched IDF forces & continue fighting for weeks or months against the Exhausted IDF troops & force Israel to accept the Arab terms.

The first 3 targets were fulfilled in the period between 6 October 1973 & 18th Jan 1974. There was no need for step 4.
This is the Egyptian victory.

1- IDF failed to push the 2nd army from its new positions on Canal east shore to its 5th of Oct lines in the west.
2- IDF failed to push the 3rd army from its new positions on Canal east shore to its 5th of Oct lines in the west.
3-IDF failed to surround the second army or to capture Ismailia city.
4-IDF failed to occupy Suez city.
5-IDF failed to secure the passage of its logistic supplies from Sinai to its divisions on Canal west shores. Its troops failed to occupy missori or the northern sections of the Chineese farm.

The last War days recorded IDF Adan Division defeat inside Suez city by Egyptian DIV 19 troops. Adan failed to occupy the city & lost more than 100 killed soldier.
In the north, Sharon division was defeated by the Egyptian Paratrooper brigades no 150 & 182 who pushed his troops to the south.
In the East IDF failed to occupy missori or the northern section of the Chineese farm.

The War final status presented 3 IDF divisions in the west canal bank that are confronted from the north, West & south by Superior Egyptian forces. These divisions link to their logistic bases in the East was in the range of the Medium range Egyptian artillery.
This poor IDF military positions were the reason for their retreat to the east 35 Kms from the Canal chores in Jan 1974 in response to the First Disengagement agreement. The lack of any political advantage for Israel in this agreement proved their military dispirit status.
The Egyptian limited war targets were achieved. This is best expressed by Trevor N. Dupuy, Elusive Victory: The Arab-Israeli Wars, 1947–1974 (New York: Harper and Row, 1978), 343. He stated
Quote:
"Thus, if war is the employment of military force in support of political objectives, there can be no doubt that in strategic and political terms the Arab States and particularly Egypt - won the war, even though the military outcome was a stalemate permitting both sides to claim military victory"

Kissinger Wants Israel to Know: The U.S. Saved You During the 1973 War
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.555704

Now let's stay on topic: This is a Usraeli unprovoked attack on Gaza's civilians

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

According to the Israel Export & International Cooperation Institute, there were 117 exporters to Egypt active in Israel in 2011 and exports of goods from Israel to Egypt grew by 60% in 2011, to $236 million. Egypt had a 20-year deal to export natural gas to Israel. The deal is unpopular with the Egyptian public and critics say Israel was paying below market price for the gas.

B*ll

In 2013, Israel facilitated Jordanian trade with Iraq and Turkey by allowing goods to be transported by truck via the Jordan River Crossing near Beit She'an. The goods are taken to Haifa Port and shipped from there to Iraq and Turkey. In 2014, Israeli and Jordanian officials signed an initial agreement for a 15-year deal in which Israel will supply $500 million worth of gas to Jordan from the Tamar natural gas field in the Mediterranean

Yeah, B*ll

. So what? Vietnamese also liberated themselves from USA, USA used mass destruction weapons such as agent orange and also had nukes.

You are seriously calling 80 Nuclear warheads useless and are not going to be used when the country is completely overrun? Vietnam is across the Pacific ocean, the Viet Cong were neither a big enough threat nor would they be able to touch U.S soil, therefore, the U.S didn't use Nukes. What's stopping Israel dipsh*t?

American support: Arabs has as much and in some cases even more American support.

Are you mentally handicapped? Serious question.

. Military aspects of arab league:
The League's main goal is to "draw closer the relations between member States and co-ordinate collaboration between them

Yeah no, the CURRENT Arab league was not made to fight anything. At all.

The military history of the Arab League

Emphasis on HISTORY.

and it has caused one of the worst crisis in human history with people starving from hunger and diseases.

Oh, cut the Iranian propaganda crap.

. Indeed I don't care about Arabs or Islam

This is an arab problem

Then why are you complaining? Go away.

 

[Khafee]

Arab puppets, you make deals with Israel and bomb Yemen. Go and fight or are you scared of repeated defeats against tiny Israel? Have courage like Israelis if you dare and don't drag or beg international community. Where is your arab league or Islamic NATO? Only stronkk Against Yemen and Iran? You've oil and many zionist investments, use your tools, or just recognize greater israel and don't act as if you're saddened.

Done barking, or is there more?

Are you mentally handicapped? Serious question.

Wasn't born this way, but Mullah Weed fried his brains.

 

[Khafee]

You are talking from ignorance, there are threads on PDF that can enlighten you..

Reading and understanding, two different breeds - not possible for one high on mullah rhetoric.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

B*ll

Yeah, B*ll

You are seriously calling 80 Nuclear warheads useless and are not going to be used when the country is completely overrun? Vietnam is across the Pacific ocean, the Viet Cong were neither a big enough threat nor would they be able to touch U.S soil, therefore, the U.S didn't use Nukes. What's stopping Israel dipsh*t?

Are you mentally handicapped? Serious question.

Yeah no, the CURRENT Arab league was not made to fight anything. At all.

Emphasis on HISTORY.

Oh, cut the Iranian propaganda crap.

Then why are you complaining? Go away.

Egyptian way of debating, no arguments, just screaming like a falafel seller is there a way to throw a shoe like in your tv debates? maybe mods could create a shoe throwing emoticon here..

 

[Dinky]

Arabs were stupid then and still stupid today. Rather than build their own nuclear weapons like Pakistan, They instead decided to be best friends with the United States. Little do they know, United States will always choose and favor Israel over the Arabs.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Arabs were stupid then and still stupid today. Rather than build their own nuclear weapons like Pakistan, They instead decided to be best friends with the United States. Little do they know, United States will always choose and favor Israel over the Arabs.

"Arabs were stupid then" really? Try doing Calculus with Roman Numerals.

Unlike other idiots like Israel and India, we care about our planet and it's environment and don't want to cause a Nuclear apocalypse that will ruin the earth.

The only reason the United States favors Israel is lobbying, once you remove that out of the equation you suddenly will realize that Israel is totally alone.

Get it? It's only because of legalized bribery/corruption that Israel has had a chance.

no arguments,

A proper argument requires both users to use logic and proper thinking. Saying that American support wouldn't help Israel and that Israel wouldn't use its nukes even if the livelihood of its state is falling apart is a clear sign that you have gone completely bonkers. Since you are incapable of common sense and logic, we cannot have an argument. Get it?

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

"Arabs were stupid then" really? Try doing Calculus with Roman Numerals.

Unlike other idiots like Israel and India, we care about our planet and it's environment and don't want to cause a Nuclear apocalypse that will ruin the earth.

You mean the Indian numerals and as you know Indians and Iranians are both related (Indo-Iranian peoples/aryans). Without these Aryan invention there would be no science and technology today. The first person who described them outside old India was an Iranian (al-khwarizmi)

Since Sanskrit is an Indo-European language, the words for numerals closely resemble those of Greek and Latin. The word "Shunya" for zero was translated into Arabic as "صفر" "sifr", meaning 'nothing' which became the term "zero" in many European languages from Medieval Latin, zephirum.

During the Vedic period (1500–500 BCE), motivated by geometric construction of the fire altars and astronomy, the use of a numerical system and of basic mathematical operations developed in northern India. The Indian vedic people were close to the ancient Avestan (old-Iranian) people.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

You mean the Indian numerals

There is no such thing as Indian numerals, there are ARABIC numerals but no such thing as Indian ones. Go home troll.

The only reason you idiots believe that Indians had anything to do with it is just Hindu propaganda and historical negationism.

Without these Aryan invention

Listen Nazi, no amount of made up bullsh*t will change the truth and that's what you just said is a complete MYTH.

(al-khwarizmi)

He was a Muslim, that means he placed his faith over his race, try again loser.

The word "Shunya" for zero was translated into Arabic as "صفر" "sifr",

Bullsh*t.

During the Vedic period (

More bullsh*t.

Quote me again with this historical negationism and I will block you.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

There is no such thing as Indian numerals, there are ARABIC numerals but no such thing as Indian ones. Go home troll.

The only reason you idiots believe that Indians had anything to do with it is just Hindu propaganda and historical negationism.
Listen Nazi, no amount of made up bullsh*t will change the truth and that's what you just said is a complete MYTH.
He was a Muslim, that means he placed his faith over his race, try again loser.
Bullsh*t.
More bullsh*t.

Quote me again with this historical negationism and I will block you.

Guys please someone awaken this delusional (pseudo-arab) egyptian.

The word zero came into the English language via French zéro from Italian zero, Italian contraction of Venetian zevero form of 'Italian zefiro via ṣafira or ṣifr.In pre-Islamic time the word ṣifr (Arabic صفر) had the meaning "empty". Sifr evolved to mean zero when it was used to translate śūnya (Sanskrit: शून्य) from India.

Sanskrit is a standardized dialect of Old Indo-Aryan, having originated in the second millennium BCE as Vedic Sanskrit and tracing its linguistic ancestry back to Proto-Indo-Iranian and Proto-Indo-European.

 

[Max]

RIP.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

@Falcon29

Condolences brother. A very unfortunate incident and obviously this was a deliberate and calculated move. The current Zionist regime obviously fears, now after the reconciliation between Hamas and Fatah, that a strong united Palestinian stance will form. That's why Palestinians should never allow local politics or outside influences to hamper the overall goal which is the creation of a independent Palestinian state.

Such moves by Israel (whenever they kill civilians) will only increase their bad publicity across the world (West included) and likewise the Apartheid behavior cannot go on forever. At one point it will become a liability even for Israel's closest allies. Let time do what it does best if this cannot be solved politically or militarily beforehand.

@The SC @Khafee @EgyptianAmerican

Brothers, do not waste your time on this Iranian troll. He is just angry that his country and people have been Arabized for the past 1400 years on almost every front (religion, culture, alphabet, language, Arab migration and intermixing with locals - also took place before Islam) etc. Or the fact that proclaimed Arabs have been ruling his entity for the past 40 years. Or the fact that his tiny entity (in comparison to the Arab world) will always be behind the Arab world on every front and this gap will only widen by each month due to demographics and economics.

His signature says it all really. He should limit himself to Zoroastrian (a dying religion that nobody cares about) forums (if they even exist) as this is the only place where his likes will be accepted as he will never be accepted in the West, East nor by Muslims with such views. We are talking about a 1400 year trauma that never will end. Anyway banned again, I see.

As for going to war with Israel, your entity has tolerated Israel murdering your so-called scientists left and right, propagandizing anti-Iranian sentiments 24/7, helping sanctioning your country (10.000's of people died due to that) and here you are trying to score brownie points among Zionists. Not only that your entity has been incapable to stop such Israeli behavior expect for arming an Arab militia (Hezbollah). How pathetic can one be? Before we know it your entity might be attacked by Israel or with their involvement. So save the praises for now.

Guys please someone awaken this delusional (pseudo-arab) egyptian.

The word zero came into the English language via French zéro from Italian zero, Italian contraction of Venetian zevero form of 'Italian zefiro via ṣafira or ṣifr.In pre-Islamic time the word ṣifr (Arabic صفر) had the meaning "empty". Sifr evolved to mean zero when it was used to translate śūnya (Sanskrit: शून्य) from India.

Sanskrit is a standardized dialect of Old Indo-Aryan, having originated in the second millennium BCE as Vedic Sanskrit and tracing its linguistic ancestry back to Proto-Indo-Iranian and Proto-Indo-European.

How many times do you need to be told that there is nothing called "an Indo-European" people genetically? It does not exist. Your Proto-Indo-Iranian people were savage steppe people living in barren Central Asia just a few millennia ago with no civilization. Just like they did not leave anything of worth to the world.

Meanwhile the Semitic Middle East/Near East is the cradle of civilization and where science was invented. Maths included of course and speaking about zero, the concept was first developed by ancient Semitic/Afro-Asiatic speakers, the ancestors of modern-day Arabs, long before the mythical Proto-Indo-Iranians even appeared in recorded writings. Don't make me laugh.

As for the origin of the word zero, well using that logic, all alcoholic (an Arabic word) beverages originate from Arabia as the word alcohol is of Arabic origins. Such a great logic Reza Pour(poor)logicpour.

As for calling an Egyptian (despite Egyptians clustering closer to Arabians than any other people genetically) for an pseudo-Arab, calling you a pseudo-Persian is even more accurate as Northern Iranians have been proven to cluster more with Azeris and Caucasians than with Southern Iranians living in the Persian heartlands (impoverished). Since your country has been a doormat for foreign invaders and rulers we have no clue about your true origins and seeing that Iranians have only had surnames for the past 100 years (lol) this makes it even more difficult to determinate. For all we know you might be one of the many Persianized Gypsies in Iran as the mass-Gypsy movements from your beloved India westward all went past Iran.

You better go worry about your Mullah rulers and your entity's future instead of trolling and obsessing about events in the Arab world as usual. Sort your complexes out.

 

[Well.wisher]

Ina lillahi wa ina ilahi rajioon .
Hope the justice will b served .

 

[Falcon29]

@Sharif al-Hijaz

Appreciate it. The reconciliation is going forward and today Hamas withdrew it's officers from all crossings. I got an impression from Israeli media that don't want the reconciliation to go forward without pressure on the PA to pursue the arms of these movements. And one of those ways will be to carry out military actions in the strip to make sure Palestinians don't familiarize with relief from the siege without disarmament or something along those lines. So that is the worrying part. At the same time no one knows what the future holds, so this reconciliation process could go really well as long as Abbas lets other officials from Fatah do the work and he abstain from ludicrous demands.

Btw, that Iranian guy seems to troll both Arabs and Iranians themselves too. So I wouldn't bother with him.

I neither want to see anyone whether Palestinians or people living in israel dead or killed nor I am blood thirsty person, actually it's not about being blood thirsty, how you describe defending yourself by responding to the aggressor as being blood thirsty? have ever peace talks worked on this regime? Arafat lost his life in this way. while you want peace they continue the settlement and get more of your lands ...

I'm not directing that comment at you, it's for the audience so if there ever is a response they won't accuse us of starting a conflict or being 'terrorists' who are blood thirsty or whatever.

 

[GBU-28]

How dare Israel prevent palestinians tunnelling into their country in order to murder civilians.

This is an outrage. The palestinians must be allowed to dig into neighbouring countries for the purposes of murder without being harassed like this.

I hope the UN is convened to give Hamas & Islamic Jihad tunnel diggers protection from the brutal Israelis.