Breaking : French media report man decapitated in suspected 'Islamist attack'

[Taygibay]

So apparently Muslims when they murder can't be crazy. They are straight up terrorist

Actually, M2S, I defend that often by explaining what the definitions cover.
It so happens that the clearest differentiating factor is revendication, AKA claim.
If there is one it marks the line. In the name of whom has the act been made?
So one step further is a group that accepts it even if by staying silent once linked.
That would make it terrorism.

To compare, the act in Kuwait was claimed by Daesch and that makes it terrorist.
We're waiting on Lyon and Sousse. But in France, the guy was known to services.

Dylan Roof in Charleston that shot 9 people to death has a revendication that I rebuked
on my blog based on the most basic of racists delusions. His claim was personal because
_ I quote : "We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet."

And no group claimed him and his lapse of reason as their own! So murderous racist : AKA Crazy!

Muslim radicals are routinely plotting against the very aggressive countries of Sweden and Ireland.

When an individual is "known to the security services" why don't the security services act? These organisations appear to me to be immensely overrated.

Sweden has past history but the worst Irish are mostly looting alcohol and potatoes …
which shouldn't be so bad in most Muslim lands!

As for agencies, their hands are tied. Even that so decried new law only got excessive on prolonged
"black box" tap on Internet services. For phone taps and such basic surveillance, it only extended 30
days renewable periods from suspect to suspect & direct family, spouses etc. It's good because the
law enforcement missed the Kouachi brothers because they used their wifes' phones to plot their deed.
We're still only talking of a hundredth of thousandth of the combined Patriot Act- Homeland security here.
So not useless but say constrained?

Good day all, Tay.

 

[bhola singh]

Part of Ramazan I believe.

 

[gau8av]

jihad

 

[utraash]

Decapitation is norm of which world.....

 

[Menace2Society]

Actually there are certain Muslim killers like the Boston bomber and the killer of Lee Rigby who are probably mad. Both of their back stories claim they were okay until thy started smoking cannabis.


Muslim radicals are routinely plotting against the very aggressive countries of Sweden and Ireland.

When an individual is "known to the security services" why don't the security services act? These organisations appear to me to be immensely overrated.

So this isn't terrorism?

Nicholas Salvador detained over woman's beheading - BBC News

Crazies kill people, that's what they do. Call a spade a spade. Don't keep changing the definition.

 

[Steve781]

So this isn't terrorism?

Nicholas Salvador detained over woman's beheading - BBC News

Crazies kill people, that's what they do. Call a spade a spade. Don't keep changing the definition.

No, random acts of violence by insane people with no political motivation is not terrorism.

 

[Hindustani78]

France, Kuwait, Tunisia terror attacks: PM Modi offers condolences to victims' families | Zee News

New Delhi: Prime Minister Narendra Modi in Friday offered his condolences to the families and the loved ones of those who lost their lives in the dastardly terror attack in France, Kuwait and Tunisia.

PM Modi tweeted from his official handle, "My thoughts & prayers are with the families & loved ones of those who lost their lives in the cowardly attacks in France, Kuwait and Tunisia."

Followed by another tweet, reading, "The progress of humanity lies in peace, brotherhood & non-violence, not in hatred, terror & mindless violence against others."

At least 41 people were killed terror attacks in France, Kuwait and Tunisia today.

One person was decipitated in an attack on a gas factory in eastern France. While a gunman stormed a hotel in Tunisian town of Sousse.

In Kuwait, a bomb blast ripped through a Shiite mosque. Islamic State group claimed the attack.

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The industrial site belongs to Air Products, an American chemical company based in Allentown, Pennsylvania. The company said all its employees had been accounted for and evacuated but did not say if any had been wounded.

“The site is secure. Our crisis and emergency response teams have been activated and are working closely with all relevant authorities,” the company said in a statement.

 

[randaam janmam]

Religion of peace strikes again!

Thank you "Multiculturalism" ?

Only one culture out of all the multitude of cultures in Europe is posing problems. You don't see jews or hindus or Koreans running around exploding things and beheading people.

why should we condemn it ? we do not have any relation with that incident

You don't need to be involved in the incident, to condemn it. In fact, usually people who perpetrate something are the ones who don't condemn it.

 

[haviZsultan]

I agree the west has done some serious shit in our countries but it is not justification for the terror attacks fanatics launch on unsuspecting, innocent local populations which have done nothing against muslims in reality. I believe we muslims must be careful not to fall into the trap of evil fascist terrorists like ISIS and Taliban who seek to make us fight amongst ourselves. Let us note that this is a rare attack on the west which has been successful. More Americans are killed by their furniture rather than terrorist attacks. Furthermore the losses of Iraq in terror are above 500000. Can any country in the west show similar figures?

However I would note that the lack of Muslim organizations raising their voice for the muslims of Kashmir and Palestine is leaving a dangerous vacuum being filled by fanatical organizations like ISIS and Taliban. There is a strong feeling amongst muslims that they are oppressed. I am aware and have seen such sentiment which is why I am saying this. This does not mean however that we attack and murder innocent christians or jews.

Some countries that have successfully and properly integrated local muslim populations are South Africa,

We need to have a stronger foreign policy from the Islamic world however that advocates the interests of muslims vigorously. Like the EU has formed a front we need to form one ourselves. As noted Huntington we have no core states which has accentuated the problem. I would say a failure to understand muslims by the west has expounded the situation. How? Note that each country invaded by the US is having severe problems. This goes for both Iraq and Afghanistan...

 

[randaam janmam]

More Americans are killed by their furniture rather than terrorist attacks. Furthermore the losses of Iraq in terror are above 500000. Can any country in the west show similar figures?

Wait, now you think that is something to boast about? If the West has very low acts of terrorism, that's because their society and people are not primitive violent religious fanatics.

Yes, muslim countries like Iraq have millions of people dying in terrorism. That's how these countries have always been. Kill and die, kill and die.

Why would any country in the west want to show similar figures?

However I would note that the lack of Muslim organizations raising their voice for the muslims of Kashmir and Palestine is leaving a dangerous vacuum being filled by fanatical organizations like ISIS and Taliban.

Muslims in Indian Kashmir live in paradise, compared to muslims in most muslim countries. You yourself were boasting about millions of victims to terrorism in Iraq, and that's just one disturbed muslim country among many. Stop using Kashmir or Palestine as an excuse for all the BS that muslims do everyday.

Some countries that have successfully and properly integrated local muslim populations are South Africa,

What happened, couldn't complete the sentence? Yea, that's understandable.

We need to have a stronger foreign policy from the Islamic world however that advocates the interests of muslims vigorously.

How about a stronger internal policy first? How about looking after the interests of muslims in the muslim world, like Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen etc, instead of braying about Kashmir every time another muslim kills people?

 

[mike2000 is back]

Shouldn't have invaded Iraq.

That's what happens when you invade countries, remove their working governments and use the resources at your disposal to destabilize them. The Allies are at it again in Syria. The Western governments have been fanning the flames of terror from the get-go.

There will always be a spill-over and the repercussions of a failing state are always going to be global, particularly failing Muslim states, because the Islamic ideology (which once stood contained by their respective governments before the West removed them) has an inherent tendency to produce extremists. Reason? The call for pan-Islamic unity in the absence of a working state appears to be the only form of good governance in a state racked by petty crime and the chronic lack of food security and access to healthcare facilities. Islam is more than just a religion. It is a system of governance. Governance which its adherents feel would be a good option in the absence of a working alternative.

The problem exacerbates where the local population gains access to military hardware and organizes itself in militias working to realize the dream of establishing a government. In the absence of a legitimate government to contain them, these militias reign supreme and spread fear and their propaganda with impunity.

You want to be safe from terror? Stop electing representatives to the Parliament who support military intervention to remove Middle-Eastern leaders who they disapprove of. That in turn, as I have explained above, throws the country to the wolves.

In short, you are the reason for the state of the world today. I hope that haunts you.

I agree. These terror groups act this way simply because they have been oppressed/denied of their human and religious rights by the West/U.S all over their countries in the middle east and the world at large. They are only paying back our governments for oppressing them and sabotaging the creation of a pan-Islamic union in the region. So these type of actions can be justify to some extent.
@Chinese-Dragon , @Darmashkian , @XiaoYaoZi ,@Azizam . et al

 

[randaam janmam]

Note that each country invaded by the US is having severe problems. This goes for both Iraq and Afghanistan.

As if those two countries were peaceful, rustic places before USA invaded. Can you name any consecutive 20 year period when Afghanistan has not been in turmoil? In this century or the previous century or the one before that or the one before that or...

How many tens of thousands had to be imprisoned and killed and genocided by Saddam, to give Iraq a semblance of peace?

The trouble lies in the muslim world. Not in Kashmir, not in Israel.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I agree. These terror groups act this way simply because they have been oppressed/denied of their human and religious rights by the West/U.S all over their countries in the middle east and the world at large. They are only paying back our governments for oppressing them and sabotaging the creation of a pan-Islamic union in the region. So these type of actions can be justify to some extent.
@Chinese-Dragon , @Darmashkian , @XiaoYaoZi ,@Azizam . et al

Terrorism against innocent people is NEVER justified, no matter what.

If someone is waging a war against your country or people, then you can fight back against their armies or military assets.

Not go into a crowded marketplace in a random country on the other side of the planet and blow yourself up. That makes zero sense. (Or a supermarket, or a train station, or a Mosque, or a Church, or an airplane, etc.)

Those little kids and women that got blown up, what do they have to do with Government and military policies of their respective countries?

If there is a Hell, these people and those that support them will be burning in it for the rest of eternity.

 

[randaam janmam]

I agree. These terror groups act this way simply because they have been oppressed/denied of their human and religious rights by the West/U.S all over their countries in the middle east and the world at large. They are only paying back our governments for oppressing them and sabotaging the creation of a pan-Islamic union in the region. So these type of actions can be justify to some extent.
@Chinese-Dragon , @Darmashkian , @XiaoYaoZi ,@Azizam . et al

Don't you see? A "think tank" has already analysed the situation and figured out why Arab/French muslims killed people in France - because of what is happening in Kashmir, India. (A place which is more peaceful than most muslim countries, and have more religious freedom and liberty and rights than any muslim country.)

Next week, there will be another bunch of muslims beheading people somewhere in the world - and that too, is because of India. Or the US. Or Israel. Or "the west". Anybody but the ones who did it.

 

[mike2000 is back]

French is the only one who is going to use their veto power and dare to openly oppose USA plan to invade Iraq.......
Governmental positions on the Iraq War prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting to see the Chinese and Russians would have gotten along with the U.S FOR IRAQS INVASION. Yet our European ally France was the only country among the P5 that was completely against any invasion whatsoever. Interesting..........