Book: Bangladesh A Legacy of Blood

[kobiraaz]

It was plain stupidity in Mujib's part to keep the anti liberation personals in offices instead of the patriotic freedom fighters. In the end he got what he was looking for. He wasn't acting like a leader but a godfather of the thugs.

do you want to read more?? Political socio economic description ends here. Next chapters include military vs Mujib!

 

[animelive]

do you want to read more?? Political socio economic description ends here. Next chapters include military vs Mujib!

Yes please, i had no idea of such inside politics, the history books only had this much "Mujib brought famine, he was assassinated bla bla bla"

 

[kobiraaz]

Yes please, i had no idea of such inside politics, the history books only had this much "Mujib brought famine, he was assassinated bla bla bla"

ok will do it later. I was thinking of opening another thread on it... Now tamim is destroying west indies

 

[LOVETOALL]

Please keep us out of it and your Indian nose as well. If at all you want to see how much You give Gandhi respect as compared to his killer Godse then Gandhi must be feeling sorry in his grave.

Not like your hero Musharaf... Who is living Mohajir life between London and Dubai....

 

[animelive]

ok will do it later. I was thinking of opening another thread on it... Now tamim is destroying west indies

was doesn't matter, someone else took his job

 

[Spring Onion]

Not like your hero Musharaf... Who is living Mohajir life between London and Dubai....

In an expensive flat with double the figure earning as compared to many presidents in the world and you sent Gandhi ji's ashes to the gangs.

 

[LOVETOALL]

In an expensive flat with double the figure earning as compared to many presidents in the world and you sent Gandhi ji's ashes to the gangs.

By the way how can be retired Army general lives such lavish life with pension..

OK poor tax payer money...

 

[Skies]

Mujib is not honored by everyone with unity here like any other father of nation in other country/ He is controversial in his own country, and the reason is obvious/

Everyone should understand why public distributed sweets at the father of nation's death/

Its surprise BD members does not give respect to their freedom frighter. See how Pakistan give respect to MA Jinnah, Liyaqat or India give that to M Gandhi, Azad, Bhagat. At least respect them in front of others. You may have some view that is different.

Yeh the Munafiqs to that: praising in front and curse behind/ Why would we hide his greed and faults?

 

[saleen_s7]

Mujib is not honored by everyone with unity here like any other father of nation in other country/ He is controversial in his own country, and the reason is obvious/

Everyone should understand why public distributed sweets at the father of nation's death/



Yeh the Munafiqs to that: praising in front and curse behind/ Why would we hide his greed and faults?

Either you like or not, Sheikh Mujib is the founding father of Bangladesh, even BNP does not deny this simple fact. This sweet distribution story does not really justify a lot other than propaganda spread by killers of Mujib. I am not a Mujib fan whatsoever who I think has acted out of selfishness, but to be fair, I can think other notable leaders who are praised for far worse. Not to mention, Mujib was under pressure from the Nixon administration back then which made him act of desperation and India at that time left him isolated.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Either you like or not, Sheikh Mujib is the founding father of Bangladesh, even BNP does not deny this simple fact. This sweet distribution story does not really justify a lot other than propaganda spread by killers of Mujib. I am not a Mujib fan whatsoever who I think has acted out of selfishness, but to be fair, I can think other notable leaders who are praised for far worse. Not to mention, Mujib was under pressure from the Nixon administration back then which made him act of desperation and India at that time left him isolated.

You are right... no sane person will ever distribute sweet when the country leader is assassinated.. Even if that really happened it was the pro Pakistani elements, Bihari, Jamaatis and razakars did that it is as simple as that. There were lots of allegation against Ziaur Rahman but no body heard of distribution of sweet story after his assassination. If you still look at present day no top BNP leaders including Jamaat top leaders bad mouth about Shaikh Mujib then who are these guy who are doing the same!!! Even most of the sane BAL supporters also see Ziaur Rahman respectfully apart from some hard core BAL members. Yes biggest weak point of SHiakh Mujib was that he was not a good administrator but he was a charismatic leader there is no doubt about it. There were none in Bangladesh who could motivate Bengali people as a whole for an independent Bangladesh. Ziaur Rahman was better administrator then Shaikh Mujib and was very honest. It is quite rare to find such honest man. But one of his biggest mistake was to bring the war collaborators of Jamaat into Bangladesh and permitting them to do politics.

Jamaat would be more sensible party without the war collaborators where many of those committed war crime.

 

[saleen_s7]

You are right... no sane person will ever distribute sweet when the country leader is assassinated.. Even if that really happened it was the pro Pakistani elements, Bihari, Jamaatis and razakars did that it is as simple as that. There were lots of allegation against Ziaur Rahman but no body heard of distribution of sweet story after his assassination. If you still look at present day no top BNP leaders including Jamaat top leaders bad mouth about Shaikh Mujib then who are these guy who are doing the same!!! Even most of the sane BAL supporters also see Ziaur Rahman respectfully apart from some hard core BAL members. Yes biggest weak point of SHiakh Mujib was that he was not a good administrator but he was a charismatic leader there is no doubt about it. There were none in Bangladesh who could motivate Bengali people as a whole for an independent Bangladesh. Ziaur Rahman was better administrator then Shaikh Mujib and was very honest. It is quite rare to find such honest man. But one of his biggest mistake was to bring the war collaborators of Jamaat into Bangladesh and permitting them to do politics.

Jamaat would be more sensible party without the war collaborators where many of those committed war crime.

I think the problem is that the views have been too polarized to the extent that most people don't even know what happened. You can either be pro independence or anti liberation force but some facts wont change no matter what. And, also some of the members depend heavily on forums for their history rather than read books, or even newspapers back in 1971. I, personally, blame the government who tried to infiltrate their narrative of the story through the local textbooks which has been often changed. We need an independent institution, backed with scholarly individuals unbiased from any political view, to establish the facts.
Unfortunately or fortunately, I have learned more about Bangladesh history mostly through Pakistani writers, Indian writers and American writers, rather than any Bangladeshi writer which is filled with political bias.

 

[Zabaniyah]

After reading this it seems Bangladesh was in ultimate Chaos, run by thugs followed by man made famine! It explains why change in 1975 was welcomed by people. My question is 40 years later why intellectuals promote bangabandhu cult so shamelessly???

The AL misuses history for its own benefit.

I question if their ideology is even sustainable.

Nationalism based on culture alone (mostly language in this case) is destined to fail. We are already seeing it. I mean, tell me one nationalist ideology based on culture alone which has proven to be successful?

In fact, after the fall of Mujib, it should have simply dissolved completely, and form a new left-wing party with a sustainable ideology.

I find it surprising that the AL is still going after all these years. Perhaps some "magic hands" going on over there?

These so-called "intellectuals" (at very high levels) even at my university promote that image. Albeit, with no sense of taking responsibility for history.

It is very odd.

Its surprise BD members does not give respect to their freedom frighter.

Frighter?

I think you mean fighter

We do give Mujib respect, as well as our freedom fighters. Any man who's immune to criticism is obviously not human!

Maybe that's why we see him as some sort of demigod within the AL of today.

All of the printed money notes right now have the image of Mujib. And not a single mention of influential individuals like Zia and Fazlul, the Red Mullah, etc.

That is what Kobiraaz meant. It has inherently evolved into a cult which misuse history for its own benefit.

I think the problem is that the views have been too polarized to the extent that most people don't even know what happened. You can either be pro independence or anti liberation force but some facts wont change no matter what. And, also some of the members depend heavily on forums for their history rather than read books, or even newspapers back in 1971. I, personally, blame the government who tried to infiltrate their narrative of the story through the local textbooks which has been often changed. We need an independent institution, backed with scholarly individuals unbiased from any political view, to establish the facts.
Unfortunately or fortunately, I have learned more about Bangladesh history mostly through Pakistani writers, Indian writers and American writers, rather than any Bangladeshi writer which is filled with political bias.

This is (un)fortunately true, at least for Bangladesh.

 

[PlanetSoldier]

@kobiraz : I finished all the pages you posted....nice book. Hope, you'd continue posting more. But if you spend such huge time for this, there's a possibility you're going to be graduated as a Hature Daktar .

 

[kobiraaz]

@kobiraz : I finished all the pages you posted....nice book. Hope, you'd continue posting more. But if you spend such huge time for this, there's a possibility you're going to be graduated as a Hature Daktar .

I am already a Hature Daktar, my performance dropped significantly! Anyway leave that... Here is the continuation - www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/221946-mujibs-military-nightmare.html