Bollywood actress Priyanka Chopra meets Rohingyas in Bangladesh

[Nilgiri]

Well that escalated quickly....

We really saw that "brotherhood" with the killings of 40,000 Hindu Tamils at the hands of the Sinhalese Buddhists in 2009.

So? Would you call the Bangladesh NY subway bomber as your brother? Or those Gulshan bakery folks? Or the pilkhana folks?

Terrorists are not my brothers. I know it upsets you to see Tamils are not being deported from SL or whatever fantasy you wanted to see....that in itself shows who the real permanent stakeholders are past the divisions that were artificially salted and then propelled for clearly nefarious interests.

Nothing like the Rohingya, who at every opportunity in history show they do not identify as part of Burmese nation (largely being new migrants during British Raj)....and always sought to push partition solution (stupidly assuming they would get their way)...and now cry when Burmese follow that exact same principle. They should have pushed for partition plan way back to join arakan to East Pakistan and thats it...when it was decided Burma keeps it (i.e borders stay as the internal British ones), those that could not accept it should have moved (like other partition migrations going on)....or they stay and integrate. But nope they kept pushing the agenda at any opportunity thinking Burmese will have no memory....and cry foul now at losing. When you are so greedy like that combined with you being recent arrivals...spare us the sob stories when the inevitable blowback happens. This ingrate nature in Rohingya is what @Michael Corleone talked about in another thread too, its showing up in the camps yet again.

 

[Gibbs]

Lol, you are one stubborn nincompoop. Not only your posts have been busted to dust with all the facts and references being properly cited here and here, you have also been caught red handed here in falsifying sources by posting random links that in no way support your claims. All you did was revolving around circular arguments like a dull online troll despite being countered multiple times, lacking any ability to comprehend the posts and apply logical thinking.

You should be really grateful to your host country Australia that they allowed a nitwit like you to immigrate and reside in their country who would be nothing more than a burden to the Australian tax payers. It's quite ironic and rather funny that you are calling for the expulsion of the Rohingyas from Myanmar, falsely claiming them to be migrants, despite the fact that you are a migrant yourself, that too an unproductive one.

Lol.. Didnt take long for the worms to come, Hit the right notes and they come out hiding in the rotten wood work shedding the facade.. You'be lucky if they let you're anywhere close to Australia mate.. Let alone talk about if i'm a burden or not..

Look little bongle you did absolutely diddly squat to bust anything i have posted here, You post some sources to prove your point i did to prove mine, All you have counted so far are times you have been put in place

Btw did't you loudly claim you are ignoring me ? What happened mate ? Couldn't keep your word ? Just couldn't keep your ingrained gutter mentality intact ? Start the personal abuse when you cant counter nothing.. @Nilgiri Unfortunately this clown did'nt keep his word.. Mr. CGI for his credit has so far.. Thank goodness

It's one of the reason that no one sane would believe what ever you clowns sprout out here day in and out

@Gibbs

Sri Lunkan and calling others smell. Irony..

I bet Jacquiline fernendez (born in Bahrain, grew up in Bahrain, and other parts) is the lightest fairest skinned Sri Lanka associated human on earth!


I know a Tamil guy from Lanka at work, we’ve become good friends, he is tamil but doesnt look like murali nor indian tamils. He despises Sri Lankan and during the last Cricket t20 cup in Lanka he was supporting Bangladesh and India against Lankan. He was telling me stuffs about how Sinhalese treated killed his kinds during wars and now the sinhalese buddisht doing same to muslim tamils in lanka.

Oh here joins another little bongle to the mob.. .. Why are you so hung up on the color of the skin bub ? Is it because no one even really care what little bongles look like ?

Did you're friend work in the same curry house as you, Is that also called an Indian restaurant because no sane person will go to a Bongles restaurant place stinking of fish, You bongles are the champions of fried fish.. Take it as a compliment

You'll even have a national fish.. Good on ya

 

[HeinzG]

I know the thinking of your kinds, buddhist can never be religious extremist no matter how much they harbour anti-muslim sentiment, justify killing or deportation of Rohingya muslim or Tamil hindus whatever,whenever suit them, supporting creation of buddhist chauvinistic state in burma and Sri Lanka. Only Muslim can be extremist. The nice guy like Ashin Wirathu or their Sri Lankan equivalents are peace loving buddhist angels. If burmese army(99 percent buddist) kill muslim or Christian ethnic group with the ideology of buddhist nationalism to purify burma from other religion it can not be termed as buddist extremism. As ''buddist can never be extremist'' the mantra we learned.So no matter how much you hold prejudice against muslim or hate muslim or want non buddhist group out of burma and Sri lanka, you are peace loving buddhist angel.

Being Buddhist doesn't mean that we can't kill anyone for the safety of our citizens or to uphold our national sovereignty. Of course it is against the teachings of lord Buddha but it is necessary for a few to sin in order to save millions of innocent souls.

Complete idiotic statement. Colombo is majority/near majority tamil city. Just like Istanbul is near majority kurdish.

Well Tamils do not form majority in Colombo though. They are about 1/3 of the total population of the Colombo city proper.

You are not Tamil nor you speak a word of it...bugger off about things you know zero about. Most SL Tamils do not want independence....at most majority want some form of federal autonomy...and enshrined bilingual status for the country....they have largely achieved both now by negotiation (which should have been the process all along)....and things are much more peaceable now and getting better. Remove the Vatican induced poison that LTTE was addicted to...and chauvinist domineering principles of elitists on both sides.... and brotherhood is again formed over time.

Yes indeed. Even in 1956 if Tamils were able to come to negotiation table they could have achieved a better deal. Tamils overreacted and increased the Sinhalese resolve. And adding salt to the wound it was Tamils that had started to racial riots back in 1958 as in 1983.

That never was an objective. In fact SL has given citizenship to even the Tamil Kandy plantation workers, which were very recent migrants to SL from TN. Forget about any objective like you say regarding Jaffna Tamils and Moors who's presence stretch back centuries and millenia.

The decedents of the Tamil plantation workers actually enjoy far better living standards compared with many Tamils living in Wanni or in the Eastern province. This should have been the way forward for the Tamils lived in the North and East provinces.

Though your proposition of the milenia old Tamil ancestry is actually wrong for the North and East.

 

[Nilgiri]

Well Tamils do not form majority in Colombo though. They are about 1/3 of the total population of the Colombo city proper.

I suppose it depends how you define the metro area? I remember @Gibbs telling me this a cpl times....and some others too. @Godman whats your take on it?

Yes indeed. Even in 1956 if Tamils were able to come to negotiation table they could have achieved a better deal. Tamils overreacted and increased the Sinhalese resolve. And adding salt to the wound it was Tamils that had started to racial riots back in 1958 as in 1983.

Yah SL Tamils must take their share of the blame for that dreadful period then....of unnecessary intitiation/stoking and then escalation. They took many cues from the TN/dravidian nationalist movements of that era taking root too....recklessly applying to another political entity. Sad, because underlying SL Tamil culture is in many if not most ways superior to TN Tamil culture (esp after the nationalist disease took shape there)....if ego was gentler on all sides, SL would be very different and better place today.

Though your proposition of the milenia old Tamil ancestry is actually wrong for the North and East.

I know what you mean though (Jaffna Kingdom etc)....I suppose earlier Tamil presence as far as regarding ancestry of current Tamils in SL is complicated subject depending on perspective (hence why I added centuries too)....off topic convo regarding this thread anyway.....and much much different to Rohingya by far anyway.

 

[Godman]

I suppose it depends how you define the metro area? I remember @Gibbs telling me this a cpl times....and some others too. @Godman whats your take on it?

Colombo city without including Kotte ,Deviwala, Mt Lavinia etc which tend to be considered as parts of "Colombo" but have their own Municipal/Urban Councils.
The Tamil speaking population in Colombo is far higher than the Sinhalese population

 

[Aung Zaya]

State Department Raises Alarm as Christians in Myanmar Face Growing Persecution

Chris Reeves
|
Posted: May 30, 2018 8:30 AM

On Tuesday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Ambassador Sam Brownback spoke to press at the State Department to detail the release of its latest report on international religious freedom. During the press conference, Ambassador Brownback took questions from reporters and spoke at length about all the usual suspects that actively deny their citizens’ religious liberty, including North Korea, Communist China, Saudi Arabia, and Myanmar (also known as Burma).

However, when Brownback spoke to journalists about the situation in Myanmar, he did not stop at mentioning the widely-reported persecution of ethnic Rohingya Muslims there. Instead, he also took the time to discuss the plight of the country’s Kachin minority group, which is predominantly Christian. When a reporter from Reuters asked the ambassador about the situation in Myanmar, Brownback described the Kachin people’s situation in stark terms [all transcripts from the State Department, emphasis in bold mine]:

REPORTER: You said you had been to Myanmar and you had raised --

AMBASSADOR BROWNBACK: No, I’ve been to Bangladesh.

REPORTER: Sorry, you’d been to Bangladesh.

AMBASSADOR BROWNBACK: Yes.

REPORTER: And I understand that you had not been given a visa to go into Myanmar. As we know, the USAID administrator has just been there and he got access. But do you think that there have been any kinds of progress made in resolving this issue?

AMBASSADOR BROWNBACK: I had asked for access into Myanmar and to meet with Aung San Suu Kyi or – and to go into northern Rakhine State, where the problems have been most acute, although there’s plenty of problems in various places in Myanmar. And I was denied those accesses. So they might have let me in, but they weren’t allowing me to have the meetings or access to the places I needed to go.

I don’t think you’ve seen progress taking place there in the country. If anything, the administration there is doubling now its effort and going after the Kachin in the northern part of the country, and the refugee numbers are increasing in the northern part now of Burma.

Later during the press conference, Brownback responded to a French reporter’s query about the persecution of Myanmar’s Rohingya population by stressing that the Kachin area was experiencing a similar wave of ethnic cleansing:

REPORTER: Yeah. I just wanted to know, coming back on Burma and the Rohingyas, you say that they are still targeted for their faith. Would you still say that some ethnic cleansing is going on in – now in Burma?

AMBASSADOR BROWNBACK: That ethnic cleansing is going on?

REPORTER: Now.

AMBASSADOR BROWNBACK: Yes, yes. I mean, that’s the – Secretary Tillerson had announced the finding of ethnic cleansing, and I believe it’s ethnic cleansing of a religious minority that’s taking place. You continue to see, as I noted, a horrific situation that fortunately has been reported on in Bangladesh of all the refugees coming out, and the international community and the international press has done a great job reporting this.

Unfortunately, now you’re even seeing them step up again in the north, in the Kachin area, and the number of refugees there has increased in recent – in recent weeks as the fighting there has expanded of another ethnic religious minority being pushed out of the country and their normal areas.

Taken together, the ambassador’s comments about the Kachin crisis mark one of the few instances of a major government official condemning the targeting of Myanmar’s Christians in such strong international legal terms. Indeed, Kachin Christians’ persecution at the hands of Buddhist nationalists in Myanmar has largely gone unreported on over the past several years as stories about Rohingya Muslims’ travails have dominated news coverage abroad.

However, in spite of the difficulty of reaching the mountainous areas where Kachins tend to live and the Myanmar military blockade of international aid agencies getting into the area, some intrepid reporters have been able to raise awareness about the Christians’ plight. Earlier this month, The Guardian published a report detailing claims that Myanmar government militias are waging an “invisible war” of “slow genocide” on the Kachins:

That violent pacification is intensifying in Kachin. Since April, more than 6,800 villagers have been forced to flee mortar and heavy weapon attacks. That number adds to the 130,000 Kachin who have been displaced over the decades. Many are stranded in the jungle or trapped in conflict zones. Meanwhile, aid agencies say they are being blocked from providing food and other vitals supplies to civilians trapped in the forest. Blocking aid agencies is a violation of international humanitarian law.

As the Buddhist militias push out the Kachin people from their ancestral homeland, they are not merely violating international laws or committing war crimes – they are also taking prime real estate that hosts numerous amber and jade mines, the output of which could potentially produce billions in income for Myanmar’s government.

While it was good to see the Trump administration continuing its trend of putting increased focus on the persecution of Christians worldwide, it would be even better to see a concrete action plan from the White House on how they plan to fight such abuses in the future. Only time will tell if that development is forthcoming.

The State Department’s latest report on international religious freedom can be found here.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chris...-in-myanmar-face-growing-persecution-n2485494

@Gibbs now what you will say? This report just came out. Why it is so difficult for you to admit the obvious, that Burmese junta has problem with every non Bhuddist, non Bamar ethnic group? they are an exclusivist, chauvinistic, ultra-nationalistic group yet to be set foot in 21st century.They are living in a self imposed isolation for much of their modern history and do not bother about internationally accepted norm.Tolerating 'otherness' is not in their vocabulary.That's they have clash with every other non Bamar, non Buddist group in Burma.Burma is a country have largest number of insurgency running for the longest period of times.Rohingyas are just the first in a long receiving line.Burmese state and it's all powerful army's capacity to do good or harm is much much bigger than any other opponents of them.You should stop the victim blaming.

State Department Raises Alarm as Christians in Myanmar Face Growing Persecution

Chris Reeves
|
Posted: May 30, 2018 8:30 AM

On Tuesday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Ambassador Sam Brownback spoke to press at the State Department to detail the release of its latest report on international religious freedom. During the press conference, Ambassador Brownback took questions from reporters and spoke at length about all the usual suspects that actively deny their citizens’ religious liberty, including North Korea, Communist China, Saudi Arabia, and Myanmar (also known as Burma).

However, when Brownback spoke to journalists about the situation in Myanmar, he did not stop at mentioning the widely-reported persecution of ethnic Rohingya Muslims there. Instead, he also took the time to discuss the plight of the country’s Kachin minority group, which is predominantly Christian. When a reporter from Reuters asked the ambassador about the situation in Myanmar, Brownback described the Kachin people’s situation in stark terms [all transcripts from the State Department, emphasis in bold mine]:

REPORTER: You said you had been to Myanmar and you had raised --

AMBASSADOR BROWNBACK: No, I’ve been to Bangladesh.

REPORTER: Sorry, you’d been to Bangladesh.

AMBASSADOR BROWNBACK: Yes.

REPORTER: And I understand that you had not been given a visa to go into Myanmar. As we know, the USAID administrator has just been there and he got access. But do you think that there have been any kinds of progress made in resolving this issue?

AMBASSADOR BROWNBACK: I had asked for access into Myanmar and to meet with Aung San Suu Kyi or – and to go into northern Rakhine State, where the problems have been most acute, although there’s plenty of problems in various places in Myanmar. And I was denied those accesses. So they might have let me in, but they weren’t allowing me to have the meetings or access to the places I needed to go.

I don’t think you’ve seen progress taking place there in the country. If anything, the administration there is doubling now its effort and going after the Kachin in the northern part of the country, and the refugee numbers are increasing in the northern part now of Burma.

Later during the press conference, Brownback responded to a French reporter’s query about the persecution of Myanmar’s Rohingya population by stressing that the Kachin area was experiencing a similar wave of ethnic cleansing:

REPORTER: Yeah. I just wanted to know, coming back on Burma and the Rohingyas, you say that they are still targeted for their faith. Would you still say that some ethnic cleansing is going on in – now in Burma?

AMBASSADOR BROWNBACK: That ethnic cleansing is going on?

REPORTER: Now.

AMBASSADOR BROWNBACK: Yes, yes. I mean, that’s the – Secretary Tillerson had announced the finding of ethnic cleansing, and I believe it’s ethnic cleansing of a religious minority that’s taking place. You continue to see, as I noted, a horrific situation that fortunately has been reported on in Bangladesh of all the refugees coming out, and the international community and the international press has done a great job reporting this.

Unfortunately, now you’re even seeing them step up again in the north, in the Kachin area, and the number of refugees there has increased in recent – in recent weeks as the fighting there has expanded of another ethnic religious minority being pushed out of the country and their normal areas.

Taken together, the ambassador’s comments about the Kachin crisis mark one of the few instances of a major government official condemning the targeting of Myanmar’s Christians in such strong international legal terms. Indeed, Kachin Christians’ persecution at the hands of Buddhist nationalists in Myanmar has largely gone unreported on over the past several years as stories about Rohingya Muslims’ travails have dominated news coverage abroad.

However, in spite of the difficulty of reaching the mountainous areas where Kachins tend to live and the Myanmar military blockade of international aid agencies getting into the area, some intrepid reporters have been able to raise awareness about the Christians’ plight. Earlier this month, The Guardian published a report detailing claims that Myanmar government militias are waging an “invisible war” of “slow genocide” on the Kachins:

That violent pacification is intensifying in Kachin. Since April, more than 6,800 villagers have been forced to flee mortar and heavy weapon attacks. That number adds to the 130,000 Kachin who have been displaced over the decades. Many are stranded in the jungle or trapped in conflict zones. Meanwhile, aid agencies say they are being blocked from providing food and other vitals supplies to civilians trapped in the forest. Blocking aid agencies is a violation of international humanitarian law.

As the Buddhist militias push out the Kachin people from their ancestral homeland, they are not merely violating international laws or committing war crimes – they are also taking prime real estate that hosts numerous amber and jade mines, the output of which could potentially produce billions in income for Myanmar’s government.

While it was good to see the Trump administration continuing its trend of putting increased focus on the persecution of Christians worldwide, it would be even better to see a concrete action plan from the White House on how they plan to fight such abuses in the future. Only time will tell if that development is forthcoming.

The State Department’s latest report on international religious freedom can be found here.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chris...-in-myanmar-face-growing-persecution-n2485494

@Gibbs now what you will say? This report just came out. Why it is so difficult for you to admit the obvious, that Burmese junta has problem with every non Bhuddist, non Bamar ethnic group? they are an exclusivist, chauvinistic, ultra-nationalistic group yet to be set foot in 21st century.They are living in a self imposed isolation for much of their modern history and do not bother about internationally accepted norm.Tolerating 'otherness' is not in their vocabulary.That's they have clash with every other non Bamar, non Buddist group in Burma.Burma is a country have largest number of insurgency running for the longest period of times.Rohingyas are just the first in a long receiving line.Burmese state and it's all powerful army's capacity to do good or harm is much much bigger than any other opponents of them.You should stop the victim blaming.

lol we dont care such a propagenda. last month , nearly 20 troops inlcuding 1 officers who guarded the village got ambushed by KIA and we lost 1+18 brave soldiers and 3 arrested. it made all the happenings today. Most of their outposts and most of HQ are built near the villages making them as the human shield. Now , we're winning the war and got their 3 important HQ and outposts within a week. That's why they're trying to pressure Myanmar army in political ways. nothing related to religion. u should note that there're many christians who live in kachin state protesting against KIA agressive behaviours on its miniority. they support Myanmar army in this case.

this is open letter to UNHCR , UNOCHA and ICRC by Lisu Christian Origanization to stop KIA agressive behaviour on minority Lisu people. i'm finding the eng version and i will post here as soon as i get.

 

[VikingRaider]

Rohingyas are majority illegal Bangladeshi squatters who just returned home permanently. I dunno what the hell all this refugee fuss about.

Why does it bother a Pakistani if rohingyas ( or assamese) are illegal Bangladeshi? You better think about Kashmir and balochistan, since Pakistan is neither America, nor China, and also since Pakistan is not ( and will never be) in any leading leadership role in muslim world,since stop poling your noes.
Maybe it will help Pakistan reclaim it's honorable position in western world again.