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Boeing Offers to Reduce C-17 Cost for India

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India Defence Online, New Delhi — Due to the obsolescence of the current fleet of Russian-built IL-76 aircraft, India has decided that it will procure the C-17 Globemaster III by Boeing as its next military transport aircraft. This defence deal will be pursued through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS), wherein the deal will be between the US and Indian government.

Although the steep price tag of $5.8 billion for ten C-17 Globemaster III aircraft is being considered as a downside of the deal, Boeing is trying to convince India that the price will come down since the deal will be determined by the requirement of the Indian Air Force (IAF). Besides, India may not need many of the services and parts which the US may be offering in the military aircraft deal.

It may be noted that India has rejected the Communications Interoperability and Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA) and the Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement for Geo-spatial Cooperation. Hence, it has been notified that India’s C-17s will not be fitted with secure communications (COMSEC) equipment Global Positioning System (GPS) security devices and other equipment. However, Boeing has confirmed that India was joining the Globemaster III Sustainment Partnership (GSP) for the maintenance of the C-17 and that the notification to the US Congress included that cost.

While the IL-76 transport aircraft with the Indian forces have been their workhorse for a long time, India opted for the costlier but more versatile aircraft like the C-17 for many reasons. Importantly, the C-17 can operate from short, mud-paved landing strips such as those on the border areas and can lift 75 tonne payloads to anywhere in China, Central Asia, the Gulf countries and much of Southeast Asia, without refuelling. The C-17 is capable of carrying 188 passengers or 102 fully-kitted paratroopers. The C-17 can also transport a battle-loaded ‘Arjun’ T-90 tank or a Chinook helicopter with its rotors dismantled.

In 2009, India had problems with the US in the C-130 J transport aircraft deal since many of the on-board systems were not being cleared for sale by the US government due to India’s rejection of the CISMOA and other agreements. It is assumed that the FMS route for the acquisition of the C-17 aircraft will not be hampered by similar issues this time again.
 
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so india is still going to pay ALOT of money but it will be a "toned down" version with out some of the features???
 
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so india is still going to pay ALOT of money but it will be a "toned down" version with out some of the features???

Yes, thats right, but it is a trade-off after all , Even a toned down C-17 may still be far superior to anything else that we can get for the Russia or the Europeans.
 
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My question is Can India afford a crash? buying is one thing but if some rookie crashes or crashed due to some hardware failure?
 
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Waste of money. C-17 GM-III is good but only for forces of US which have global ambitions as well as huge amount of $$$. We could buy lot more upgraded Il-76 or future An-124.
 
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Seriously, with this amount of money a squadron of F-35 could be bought, wat the heck, why we need such advance stuff to carry goods and solders?
 
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Seriously, with this amount of money a squadron of F-35 could be bought, wat the heck, why we need such advance stuff to carry goods and solders?

Keep in mind , that at least 1/3 of the cost is going towards setting up logistics , providing training and stockpiling spares for the aircraft.

The high cost is to be expected when inducting a new type of aircraft.

Considering the purchase of the C-17 and the C130J , IAF is trying to rapidly expand its logistics and supply capability.

IAF IL-76



USAF C-17



USAF C-130J

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These is undoubtedly an improvement in quality

Now , i know you may consider price competitiveness a major factor when considering the IL-76.

But we have problems with Russian support after sales , a problem we solved by moving production lines to India , but that takes time and is a far more long term investment.

But the Americans offer much better after sale service support.
IAF clearly had it's reasons for making these decisions.

Ideally we should have the MTA in our fleet by now

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But that is still a way's of, in the medium term we need to improve the quality and numbers of our current fleet.

I also don't have to stress to you the Geo-political implications of using such aircraft.

You should also keep in mind that should everything go as planned , more orders of C-17's and C-130J's will follow. There is still the option to purchase 6 more C-130'Js

Besides the IL-76 , India operates a large number of other older and smaller aircraft that perform medium transport roles , these can now be made obsolete and replaced.
 
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welll but why india in few years turned completely over to usa for everything
 
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welll but why india in few years turned completely over to usa for everything

Not really SF, we have closer ties with Russia, France and Israel than US in actual defence procurement. Indo US relations is not defence alone and it is more to do with areas like education, nuclear cooperation, investment. The biggest advantage India has with US is the ability to gain diplomatic leverage.

It is important to not that Indian foreign policy remains independent irrespective of the strategic association.
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Super Falcon.

India is now a rising economic power.

It can for the first time afford expensive western weapons.

The USA for the first time actively pushes entices india to buy American weapons.

IT TAKES BOTH USA & INDIA to clap together to make the current indo/usa honey moon.
 
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