Black security guard who stopped bar fight shot dead by cop for doing his job

[jhungary]

Why not wait for all the facts to be known first?

What? And lost the fun to jump the gun and insult American? NEVER lol

Seriously.

The incident is more complicated than people thinks. If my information is correct. There were a shoot out where an armed suspect have exchange gunfire with the security guard who later shot dead by the Police.

Standard procedure would have the security guard drop his weapon when the Police arrive and identity themselves. Don't know if the Cop ID him/themselves or have the security guard put down his weapon. So, this may complicate things.

I would say at this moment, it's 50/50, we need to know more before making a judgment

 

[VCheng]

What? And lost the fun to jump the gun and insult American? NEVER lol

Seriously.

The incident is more complicated than people thinks. If my information is correct. There were a shoot out where an armed suspect have exchange gunfire with the security guard who later shot dead by the Police.

Standard procedure would have the security guard drop his weapon when the Police arrive and identity themselves. Don't know if the Cop ID him/themselves or have the security guard put down his weapon. So, this may complicate things.

I would say at this moment, it's 50/50, we need to know more before making a judgment

Let all the facts be known first. I am sure there is much more to this story, as is usually the case.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Oprah guilty

LOL! Whut???

 

[925boy]

B

Black lives dont matter much

And @Śakra will just see this news and shout Wakanda.
smh

Why not wait for all the facts to be known first?

What is the chance/ likeness that a white man gets killed this same exact way? White people dont die the same way black people have died recently by police in the US. thats facts.

 

[jhungary]

B

And @Śakra will just see this news and shout Wakanda.
smh


What is the chance/ likeness that a white man gets killed this same exact way? White people dont die the same way black people have died recently by police in the US. thats facts.

but they do...….

White people actually top the list on victim for police shooting in 2018, there is a website which keep all Police Shooting in the previous 5 years, you can go check it out if you want, if I remember correctly, it's about 60/40.

 

[925boy]

What? And lost the fun to jump the gun and insult American? NEVER lol

Seriously.

The incident is more complicated than people thinks. If my information is correct. There were a shoot out where an armed suspect have exchange gunfire with the security guard who later shot dead by the Police.

Standard procedure would have the security guard drop his weapon when the Police arrive and identity themselves. Don't know if the Cop ID him/themselves or have the security guard put down his weapon. So, this may complicate things.

I would say at this moment, it's 50/50, we need to know more before making a judgment

but they do...….

White people actually top the list on victim for police shooting in 2018, there is a website which keep all Police Shooting in the previous 5 years, you can go check it out if you want, if I remember correctly, it's about 60/40.

then whats the ratio of white population to black?there is no escaping the reality that white police in america had been killing black people easier. videos just made it undeniable.

 

[jhungary]

then whats the ratio of white population to black?there is no escaping the reality that white police in america had been killing black people easier. videos just made it undeniable.

If you have to say that, then you also need to compare the black crime rate and the % of black murdering white as well, the first one is about 55% (of a 18% black population) and the second one is about 45% according to the DOJ, compare to the whole population where less than 20% of US Population are black.

 

[925boy]

If you have to say that, then you also need to compare the black crime rate and the % of black murdering white as well, the first one is about 55% (of a 28% black population) and the second one is about 45% according to the DOJ, compare to the whole population where less than 20% of US Population are black.

Your statistics are probably correct, but that doesnt change the fact that US police have(at least)killed blacks more recklessly in recent times. say what u want, chant blue lives matter, it doesnt matter. US police have shown their true color and the world and America saw it. nuff said.

 

[jhungary]

Your statistics are probably correct, but that doesnt change the fact that US police have(at least)killed blacks more recklessly in recent times. say what u want, chant blue lives matter, it doesnt matter. US police have shown their true color and the world and America saw it. nuff said.

Well, if that is what you think, then fair enough.

That does not mean I have to agree or not agree with you, I am just compiling statistic here, how to interpret those statistic is up to individual.

For me, I am not a criminal (at least not anymore) so I don't have a problem with the police, and the matter of fact is, Police shooting is of a small portion of all shooting involving firearms, so chances are, if you are involve in any type of shooting, you probably have a higher chance to have shot by a black man then a white police officer, On the other hands, cops are just ding their job, so they can go home and see their family, I am not going to say 100% of them are like that but a big portion of them are, and this "Cop is out to get black man" stunt, well, if you believe so, that's your choice.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Most white American Police officers are KKK supporters.

 

[VCheng]

What is the chance/ likeness that a white man gets killed this same exact way? White people dont die the same way black people have died recently by police in the US. thats facts.

What is chance of any man, regardless of skin color, getting shot who is holding another person with a gun and does not listen to police orders?

 

[sohail.ishaque]

They just want to kill Blacks and make situations out of nowhere to get the job done.

 

[Georg]

Black lives dont matter much

for US police life does not matter at all... we only see here the black getting killed for no reason news ... the turth is... the chance to get killed as a white in the USA by the police is 20times higher than in Europe... Simple fact... the Police in the USA is trained BAD, not trained long enough, most of the training is shooting and force controll on suspecty... in the rest of the civil world Police training takes 3 years of longer, most of the training went into deescalation of situations and only a small part went into shooting and force controll on suspects..

 

[925boy]

What is chance of any man, regardless of skin color, getting shot who is holding another person with a gun and does not listen to police orders?

lower than the chance of black man doing the same thing. next question?

What? And lost the fun to jump the gun and insult American? NEVER lol

Seriously.

The incident is more complicated than people thinks. If my information is correct. There were a shoot out where an armed suspect have exchange gunfire with the security guard who later shot dead by the Police.

Standard procedure would have the security guard drop his weapon when the Police arrive and identity themselves. Don't know if the Cop ID him/themselves or have the security guard put down his weapon. So, this may complicate things.

I would say at this moment, it's 50/50, we need to know more before making a judgment

If the dead bouncer's family gets money settlement from the police department, we can conclude they did wrong.

 

[jhungary]

If the dead bouncer's family gets money settlement from the police department, we can conclude they did wrong.

Nope, that doesn't conclude the Police did wrong, if and only if the Police office is charged for either manslaughter or murder 2 and convicted, that would be the only case that show the Police Department did wrong.

Civil court in the US is different than Criminal Court, Civil Court operate on a "Reason to Believe" system, proof do not need to be "beyond reasonable doubt" to be able to judge a case in its merit. However, a criminal court would need to proof a subject guilty beyond any reasonable doubt, and in most case, verdict must be unanimous, so each of the peer jury have to believe you carry the same guilt as the other jury before you are convicted.

In most case, these type of Civil Court case is settle out of the court and subject avoid claiming responsibility.