BJP Youth Leader Gowhar Ahmed Bhat Killed By Terrorists In Kashmir

[Joe Shearer]

Are these the same "Gutless cowards" who gave shelter to your ancestors when they RAN AWAY from their own land like "courageous lions" and beg these "cowards" for protection ?

What is your credibility or moral authority to call names to those who offered your their land and lives without any collateral ? That you assume is your divine right to abuse Hindus is true reflection of your despicable nature than any reflection on the Hindu society.

Now go read the story of Raja Hammira , the (Chauhan) king of Ranthambore who gave similar shelter to Muslim refugees against Alauddin Khalji. A Hindu who refused to hand over the people who came to him for refuge and scarified his entire family to honor his pledge. He and his men died to the last man to denfed the people who sought refuge with him. His women folks committed Jauhar (Death by fire) rather than hand over the refugees.

And when the leader of the Muslim refugees Muhammad Shah were finally found by Allauddin Khalji and asked what they would do if they were set free, He said he would he would kill Alauddin and appoint Hammira's son as the new king. That is the kind of inspiration the "cowardly hindu" inspire even in coward who run away and seek refuge with the Hindus.

Now fall on your knees and beg forgiveness to the Hindus and thank them a million times for allowing your kind to live in dignity in this Hindu land.



Ach Thoo

That is typical of you, fight with other Indians rather than face those across the border, any border, who are the most contemptuous of you.

Gutless cowards.

 

[Gadkari]

That is typical of you, fight with other Indians rather than face those across the border, any border, who are the most contemptuous of you.

Gutless cowards.

I have more respected for my enemies than worms like you.

 

[ranjeet]

RIP

 

[Kdpreddy]

You remain gutless cowards.

Even in the anonymity of an Internet identity, you are unable or unwilling to face a Pakistani member who has a point of view, and only scavenge around for small victories and bombastic statements to yourselves about other Indians.

Get lost.

The gutless cowards are the ones who are using 'how ever' for a murder.
Take your own advise and GTFO.

The anonymity you refer to is a god send to the right wing. Looking at the extermination camps your ideological friends are running, I am thankful for small things like anonymity because of which we can expose two faced monsters like YOU.

I have more respected for my enemies than worms like you.

Don't insult worms mate.

 

[Gadkari]

Don't insult worms mate.

That is true. Worms are of actual benefit to society. The down side is they do not have British level english skills thus making them "inferior".

 

[oOo]

You make a very pertinent point about sanghis.

Their enemies were always within.

And they have a long history of collision with external hostile forces to stick it to insiders they hate.

Such is apparent not only on PDF but other social media as well,and through history.

Their forefathers, the Brahmins, did the same when Islamic forces marched virtually unimpeded deep into India all the way to the Deccan before coming up against the Maratha.

Gutless cowards.

Cheers, Doc

I am not a brahmin neither a dalit, but not sure why this post of yours rubbed me in a wrong way. Perhaps its has some annotation attached to it which doesn't simply signals out brahmins but Indians in general.

Pretty rich coming from you doc. Not too long back you were a shiv sainik, is that the reason you see a first resistance coming from marathas?

@Joe Shearer Sir, 99% times I do find my thoughts in your posts, this is one of the rare where I would respectfully disagree.

The person killed, perhaps was not killed for his specific political agenda and ideology, but because he has a political affiliation. We should condemn this act of discouraging political set up in valley, we need youth to have an ideology to fight within democratic framework which is open to all workable ideologies. Our nation accommodated even the RSS and others, not for what RSS bring to table, but to uphold values democracy brings in.

 

[Gadkari]

I am not a brahmin neither a dalit, but not sure why this post of yours rubbed me in a wrong way. Perhaps its has some annotation attached to it which doesn't simply signals out brahmins but Indians in general.

Pretty rich coming from you doc. Not too long back you were a shiv sainik, is that the reason you see a first resistance coming from marathas?

@Joe Shearer Sir, 99% times I do find my thoughts in your posts, this is one of the rare where I would respectfully disagree.

The person killed, perhaps was not killed for his specific political agenda and ideology, but because he has a political affiliation. We should condemn this act of discouraging political set up in valley, we need youth to have an ideology to fight within democratic framework which is open to all workable ideologies. Our nation accommodated even the RSS and others, not for what RSS bring to table, but to uphold values democracy brings in.

RSS has been at the receiving end of "secular" intolerance for the last 70 years.

25,000 RSS men were send to JAIL after Mahatma Gandhi was killed. Only to be told that they were innocent but even then the release was conditional.

And this happened WAY before the "Emergency" imposed by Indra Gandhi. It was by her Father "Nehru".

The Same despicable man who awarded HIMSELF the Bharat Ratna and was so Vain that he declared his own Birth day as "Children's Day"

How many "world Leaders" you know has done this ?

 

[oOo]

RSS has been at the receiving end of "secular" intolerance for the last 70 years.

25,000 RSS men were send to JAIL after Mahatma Gandhi was killed. Only to be told that they were innocent but even then the release was conditional.

And this happened WAY before the "Emergency" imposed by Indra Gandhi. It was by her Father "Nehru".

The Same despicable man who awarded HIMSELF the Bharat Ratna and was so Vain that he declared his own Birth day as "Children's Day"

They are no saint either, so we can do well not be a blind follower of any such organization. Lets be agenda driven.

We have a century old history of congress and it can not be flawless. They have plenty of them, perhaps more than I would like to see. I am neutral to their past: a mix bag of good and bad.

RSS: Though I would classify myself a moderate extremist, still do not see myself aligned with their objective and tactics. These ideologue digress from the true development path we need to pursue. Survive on religious fools driven by tempered history.

I am looking for an alternative to congress, will keep hopping to a "better" alternatives as they keep pouring in.

How many "world Leaders" you know has done this ?

Many, even worse.

 

[padamchen]

I am not a brahmin neither a dalit, but not sure why this post of yours rubbed me in a wrong way. Perhaps its has some annotation attached to it which doesn't simply signals out brahmins but Indians in general.

Pretty rich coming from you doc. Not too long back you were a shiv sainik, is that the reason you see a first resistance coming from marathas?

@Joe Shearer Sir, 99% times I do find my thoughts in your posts, this is one of the rare where I would respectfully disagree.

The person killed, perhaps was not killed for his specific political agenda and ideology, but because he has a political affiliation. We should condemn this act of discouraging political set up in valley, we need youth to have an ideology to fight within democratic framework which is open to all workable ideologies. Our nation accommodated even the RSS and others, not for what RSS bring to table, but to uphold values democracy brings in.

I say it as it is.

It is not meant to rub or not rub.

That is purely individual.

You cannot deny that Hindus is general and bammans in particular have been their own biggest enemies.

Which is why we've been under the foreign yoke for over a thousand years.

And fought and helped defeat the one stand of defiant resistance that grew out of this land and it's people.

I repeat. Gutless slimy conniving cowards.

Cheers, Doc

 

[oOo]

I say it as it is.

It is not meant to rub or not rub.

That is purely individual.

You cannot deny that Hindus is general and bammans in particular have been their own biggest enemies.

Which is why we've been under the foreign yoke for over a thousand years.

And fought and helped defeat the one stand of defiant resistance that free out if this land and it's people.

I repeat. Gutless slimy conniving cowards.

Cheers, Doc

That make us (me and you(if you feel one of us) included) collectively cowards, not just they. We were equal party, however we can keep on debating the quantum of responsibility.

We shall not shed the burden of uneasy history of ours by putting on someone else shoulders.

You mean all those men who have vowed to not marry and dedicate their lives to the nation are not "saints" ?

What is your definition of a "saint" ?

What is your "Agenda" to be agenda driven ? Because the RSS agenda is clearly spelled out and they ARE agenda driven. There is no ambiguity about it. Unlike the "agenda" of the likes of Arvind Kejriwal and Kamala Hassan.

Are you calling the same congress who drove the Indian share in the global GDP from 4 % (when the british left) to 2% and "gifted" us the "hindu rate of growth" as a mix of the "good and the bad" ? IF this is what "good" looks like, I am afraid to ask what the "bad" is.

The perpetuation of british stratified "Caste" by enshrining them into the constitution ? The abandoning of secularism and pandering to religious minorities and perverting "equality to all before the law" to satisfy their own agenda ?



What is the RSS "Objective" ? Provide official source to justify your claim of their Objective.
What is the RSS "tactic" ? Give me credible official examples, not "opinions and Beliefs" masquerading as Facts.

Once we have established this, we can move further.





One man I can think of is the Dictator of North Korea. Can you name a few more ?

I concur with a lot in your post, so I need not to give any counter argument. I am a free citizen, educated and have the ability to take into cognizance the behavior, tactics and deeds of political parties or organizations and they need not to be officially documented. You are selectively picking my post, go through it once and you will understand from where I am coming from. Where do you see a congress apologist in me? But shall I deny all good work done by congress in its history of century? That will make me a bigot.

Caste was there before British as well, we as a society created that, and we carried it forward. Not me, you or congress but collective masses.

You mean all those men who have vowed to not marry and dedicate their lives to the nation are not "saints" ?

I can't help but to chose this sentence of yours to reply as its completely superficial and flawed.
What about those who do not marry and chose a path to kill in name of doing some holy war? Heck they blow themselves for their version of nation and holy war. Shall I call them saints?

What is your definition of a "saint" ?

Straw man.

 

[Gadkari]

They are no saint either, so we can do well not be a blind follower of any such organization. Lets be agenda driven.

We have a century old history of congress and it can not be flawless. They have plenty of them, perhaps more than I would like to see. I am neutral to their past: a mix bag of good and bad.

RSS: Though I would classify myself a moderate extremist, still do not see myself aligned with their objective and tactics. These ideologue digress from the true development path we need to pursue. Survive on religious fools driven by tempered history.

I am looking for an alternative to congress, will keep hopping to a "better" alternatives as they keep pouring in.

You mean all those men who have vowed to not marry and dedicate their lives to the nation are not "saints" ?

What is your definition of a "saint" ?

What is your "Agenda" to be agenda driven ? Because the RSS agenda is clearly spelled out and they ARE agenda driven. There is no ambiguity about it. Unlike the "agenda" of the likes of Arvind Kejriwal and Kamala Hassan.

Are you calling the same congress who drove the Indian share in the global GDP from 4 % (when the british left) to 2% and "gifted" us the "hindu rate of growth" as a mix of the "good and the bad" ? IF this is what "good" looks like, I am afraid to ask what the "bad" is.

The perpetuation of british stratified "Caste" by enshrining them into the constitution ? The abandoning of secularism and pandering to religious minorities and perverting "equality to all before the law" to satisfy their own agenda ?



What is the RSS "Objective" ? Provide official source to justify your claim of their Objective.
What is the RSS "tactic" ? Give me credible official examples, not "opinions and Beliefs" masquerading as Facts.

Once we have established this, we can move further.

Many, even worse.

One man I can think of is the Dictator of North Korea. Can you name a few more ?

 

[Sam.]

Preaching the divisive and exclusive ideology of the Sangh Parivar.

You have lost your mind in your old age and given in to hatred. Your post is vile, poisonous and shows your third-grade mentality.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You have lost your mind in your old age and given in to hatred. Your post is vile, poisonous and shows your third-grade mentality.

1. Seems that this forum is not ready for your first-grade mentality, and prefers third-graders;
2. Rats need poison;
3. Vile or not is to be judged by others than those whom I have shown as traitors to the nation;
4. Giving in to hatred is your speciality, otherwise so many Indian citizens would not have died of mob violence or at the hands of cowards;
5. Even with my 'lost' mind, I doubt that you can say anything worthwhile by way of refutation.

 

[Sam.]

1. Seems that this forum is not ready for your first-grade mentality, and prefers third-graders;
2. Rats need poison;
3. Vile or not is to be judged by others than those whom I have shown as traitors to the nation;
4. Giving in to hatred is your speciality, otherwise so many Indian citizens would not have died of mob violence or at the hands of cowards;
5. Even with my 'lost' mind, I doubt that you can say anything worthwhile by way of refutation.

Typical Pseudo-liberals who think if someone doesn't agree with them then he might be from the opposite side.

I assume nobody cared about you if they did you might not have turned out to be this person. I hope you find your vanity in strange lands.

 

[Gadkari]

I concur with a lot in your post, so I need not to give any counter argument. I am a free citizen, educated and have the ability to take into cognizance the behavior, tactics and deeds of political parties or organizations and they need not to be officially documented. You are selectively picking my post, go through it once and you will understand from where I am coming from. Where do you see a congress apologist in me? But shall I deny all good work done by congress in its history of century? That will make me a bigot.

Caste was there before British as well, we as a society created that, and we carried it forward. Not me, you or congress but collective masses.

As an objective reader, I am forced to conclude that you are unable to provide any concrete example of "RSS conspiracy".

As expected, all you have to offer is "Opinion" based on your "gut feel". That makes you a hypocrite. Especially when attempting to debate rationally on "evidence" and all you are furnish is "your ability to take cognizance" and draw convenient conclusions.

We never had "caste" Before the British. We had "Varna" and "Jaathi". Varna which was formed to assimilate people from various Jaathi's and form a Egalitarian society.

The islamic invasion destroyed the schools and universities that provided equal opportunity via education. The british then deliberately condemned us into "caste" and the CONgress continued the british policy and enshrined it into the constitution.

This is what happens when prejudice color your opinion instead of Facts. A prejudice that is introduced deliberate by the british developed educations system designed to make a Hindu ashamed of his own culture and history.

While every other nation teach History as a series of Victories , our history is taught as a series of Defeats and we are taught to celebrate these defeats and conquests as "proof of our tolerance and assimilation". Do you know what the end result looks like ?

I can help but to chose this sentence of yours to reply as its completely superficial and flawed.
What about those who do not marry and chose a path to kill in name of doing some holy war? Heck they blow themselves for their version of nation and holy war. Shall I call them saints?

There is the difference between "dedicate their LIVES for the Nation" and "blowing them-self up for their beliefs".

That you would even attempt to draw a parallel between them, tells us about your deep rooted prejudice that over ride any and all logic and rational taught.

Straw man.

LOL.... how so ? YOU are the one who introduced the word "saint".

In the Indian and Hindu context, we admire people like Bhishma who scarified their dreams and desires for the welfare of others or to keep a promise. Same goes for a man called "Bharat" (brother of Sri. Ram).

These are not "stawmen" but our culture, history and the nature of our society. Maybe you are confusing us with British society.