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BJP warns govt. over Kashmir

Actually know care and bother to talk about Kashmir Pandits because they are not human beings. They are killed and body are dump because they are small in number and they don't have any terrorist support. If you go the Delhi you can see them how they are living and what they are and what they had and those who done this they feel proud and honorable person, by doing this they spread the fear and wants people to follow their orders. Now who to blame the whole Country or whole Kashmiri people who living there or that person and group who involve in such type of activity.

Preventing unrest should have been the responsibility of the concerned authorities. There are always a couple of retards every now and then.

Btw, I love your name.
 
so it should be renamed as "Azad from india kashmir". The term Azad kashmir do not go down well with it's reality

your reality and my reality are too different.
plz call up GOP, if you are that bothered, I'm sure they'll change it.... just for you :agree:
 
why??? We are happy with current status.....you guys can learn to be too.... If we agree and make peace with status quo, then india will not have any reason to threaten or attack pakistan and after some time when trade increases between the two nations any kashmiri in iok who wants to go and settle in will be allowed to and vice versa..... Everybody happy....

Kashmir is not called jugular vein of Pakistan for no reason, find the facts about it. Just think if Kashmir was not so important for Pakistan than why is Pakistan still fighting?? Why is Pakistan still fighting when it accepted Indian occupation of Hyderabad Deccan & Junagadh Manavadar & accepted Bangladesh also as a reality?
 
well a nation is made by people not land- so if pakistan wants to 'free' kashmir- the only way seems to be is to allow any person in iok to come and settle in and vice versa.....
I think both countries should be able to agree to this and then allow the loc to become ib
 
Kashmir is not called jugular vein of Pakistan for no reason, find the facts about it. Just think if Kashmir was not so important for Pakistan than why is Pakistan still fighting?? Why is Pakistan still fighting when it accepted Indian occupation of Hyderabad Deccan & Junagadh Manavadar & accepted Bangladesh also as a reality?

how is it a jugular vein.... Are there any imp trade routes or something i dont know about....??

You didnt do anything about hyderabad and the rest because you couldnt....
You didnt accept bangladesh, you were forced to do so.....1971 war ring any bells???
 
Problems of the Kashmiri Pundits can not be solved untill Kashmir become peaceful. Peaceful Kashmir is not possible the way things are moving. Either arrange a plebiscite in four different region of Kashmir or settle it through war. If we consider full Kashmir belongs to India, we can not get it without waging a war. Similarly if Pakistan thinks Kashmir belongs to them , they can not get it without a war. It is better to allow the Kashmiris to decide it. No way Kashmir is comparable to Baluchistan, Punjab ,Assam etc.

If anyone think that plebiscite means Kashmir will go to Pakistan, it's a big mistake. There are four different regions in Kashmir- The vally and so called Azad Kashmir, Northen areas (Gilgit, Baltistan), Ladakh and Jammu. Each of them with differnt expectations. You are free to speculate about it but I am sure Jammu and Ladakh will remain in India, Northern areas will remain in Pakistan. But it is bit difficult to predict result in combined territory of Kashmir valley and the portion under Pakistani control.

Some Indian members may not like it, but the fact is what Maharaja of Kashmir chose is irrelevent. In a democratic country wish of a King who bought his Kingdom from the British paying few lakh rupees should not be considered final. Though Neheru agreed for plebiscite , it could not take place as Pakistan remove her force from occupied areas. Since then we are spending unnecessary money behind it, maintaining Unnecessary article 370 which curbed the economic prospect of Kashmir and assimilation of the State in mainland India.
 
I am soo sad that Pakistan's position regarding Kashmir is becomming weak & defensive & i'am afraid India will swallow Pakistani territory same like Junagadh-Manavadar & Hyderabad Deccan. It is because of 2 reasons that Pakistan stand is becomming weak, one is polititions are more interested for friendship with India,(i'am not against friendship with India but core issues shan't be put behind or sell out due to friendship, today they are occupying J&K, tomorrow they will demand for AJK, than G&B & so on).
The second reason & very big reason is obviously terrorism in Pakistan, because of terrorism Pakistan focus had been distracted from that important issue, another loss because of terrorism is that many of the Kashmiris are being made fool by Indian media who shows each & every news with mirch masala and therefore now many of them want Indepandance from India but not a merger with Pakistan, one more loss due to terrorism is that our economy is in very bad condition, alot of foriegn companies have been closed plus very little or no further foriegn investment coming.

Kashmir is a jugular vein of Pakistan, Pakistan will always be threaten until Kashmir is occupied, either Kashmir becomes indepandant sovereign country otherwise it must become part of Pakistan, Pakistani leaders must agree on nothing less than this & not become defensive on this main issue.

Err...you still don't understand you (Pak) are in such a condition (terrorism) due to your fixation with Kashmir and not the other way round ? :hitwall:

If animals and plants get along in a forest, why can't neighbors? :cheers:

Just a thought :D

I dont think grass gets along well with a deer or for that matter any herbivore.

Just a counter-thought.
 
Problems of the Kashmiri Pundits can not be solved untill Kashmir become peaceful. Peaceful Kashmir is not possible the way things are moving. Either arrange a plebiscite in four different region of Kashmir or settle it through war. If we consider full Kashmir belongs to India, we can not get it without waging a war. Similarly if Pakistan thinks Kashmir belongs to them , they can not get it without a war. It is better to allow the Kashmiris to decide it. No way Kashmir is comparable to Baluchistan, Punjab ,Assam etc.

That's a more realistic estimate.
 
I am interested to know what patriotic BJP did about Kashmir when they were in power. What they did for the cause of the Pundits. If they consider whole Kashmir belongs to India why they did not wage a war to get it. Did they thought Pakistan will gift it. Instead what we saw an utter inefficiency of the government , intrusion in sensetive areas like Kargil and even after sacrifice of 500 plus soldiers some peak remained in Pakistani occupation. If BJP leadership is so much interested about Kashmir the could utilise the Kargil excuse to attempt bringing whole of Kashmir under Indian control.
 
I am interested to know what patriotic BJP did about Kashmir when they were in power. What they did for the cause of the Pundits. If they consider whole Kashmir belongs to India why they did not wage a war to get it. Did they thought Pakistan will gift it. Instead what we saw an utter inefficiency of the government , intrusion in sensetive areas like Kargil and even after sacrifice of 500 plus soldiers some peak remained in Pakistani occupation. If BJP leadership is so much interested about Kashmir the could utilise the Kargil excuse to attempt bringing whole of Kashmir under Indian control.

i think u have forgot that BJP is main opposition party & opposition party always give controversial statements to defame ruling party. it's politics, in politics it is not necessary that a party follows what it says.
 
Preventing unrest should have been the responsibility of the concerned authorities. There are always a couple of retards every now and then.

Btw, I love your name.

Yes, thats what they are doing now. I hope no one should have problem with it.
 
1) I am interested to know what patriotic BJP did about Kashmir when they were in power. What they did for the cause of the Pundits.

2) If they consider whole Kashmir belongs to India why they did not wage a war to get it. Did they thought Pakistan will gift it.

3) Instead what we saw an utter inefficiency of the government , intrusion in sensetive areas like Kargil and even after sacrifice of 500 plus soldiers some peak remained in Pakistani occupation.

4)If BJP leadership is so much interested about Kashmir the could utilise the Kargil excuse to attempt bringing whole of Kashmir under Indian control.

1) How about initiating the ground breaking Lahore accords and breaking the back of the militancy ?

2) Maintaining the Kashmir is an integral part of India to keep up diplomatic pressure though not making war to achieve it in the greater economic interests and effectively conceding P0K itself is Pakistan's is different.

3) And please if you don't know the reason of Kargil intrusion don't speak. Every year during the winter soldiers from both nations climb down from their summer positions and re-occupy it during the months of May-June.

It was Pakistan that betrayed the historical Lahore accords which were set in motion by Shri Vajpayee ji and we got it back.

4) Do you even know it was only due to Congress once in 1949 and another time in 1971 and yet another time in 1987 that the Kashmir issue is where it is now ?

I dont wish to start a Congress vs BJP debate here. But BJP are perfectly justified in speaking about Kashmir because they are the main opposition party and have a legal,constitutional right and a democratic obligation to express what they feel is in the interests of the country.
 
the indians are at war with themselves and are haunted by the fact that despite empty claims that Kashmir is ''integral part of hindustan'' --on the ground the reality speaks the complete opposite

ask ANY Kashmiri what they think of hindustan --especially in the majority Muslim regions (in actuality, majority of Kashmir itself is Muslim populated).....see what they say about hindustan. Those are their lands, theyre not gonna disappear anytime soon!
 
The kashmiris(Muslims) lost their right for referendum the moment they tried to ethnically cleanse the pundits off the valley.Now they have to bear the brunt of their warm blood and stupid head.The solution is LOC=IB and The state gets trifurcated into Jammu as a new state,Ladakh as a UT and the Valley as a new state without 377.

Pakistan can keep obv.
 

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