BIMSTEC as an alternative to SAARC and Pakistan's role

[TopCat]

Some of the countries in BIMSTEC are ASEAN member. So BIMSTEC has very limited future. It can be more of a connectivity grouping for trades.

 

[Articulate]

Some of the countries in BIMSTEC are ASEAN member. So BIMSTEC has very limited future. It can be more of a connectivity grouping for trades.

That does not mean anything. Countries can be part of different groupings. It does not mean any grouping would suffer.

India itself is part of SCO as well, does not mean we are not trying our level best in SAARC and now in future BIMSTEC.

 

[Gibbs]

The recent issues with SAARC has created some new questions about the organization's usefulness as well as the possibility of BIMSTEC replacing it.
However Pakistan is currently not a member despute being a significant nation in the region

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/573020/with-saarcs-fate-uncertain-india.html
http://southasiamonitor.org/detail.php?type=sl&nid=10234

So whats the opinion

@Nilgiri @ranjeet @waz @Gibbs @Stannis Baratheon @Tshering22 @LA se Karachi @bongbang @Horus @MBI Munshi etc

Pakistan's inclusion wont work in the context of BIMSTEC due to the obvious elephant in the room India, I think they need to concentrate on CPEC and SCO initiative

Sri Lanka would do well joining the CPEC as well if possible to continue their diplomatic and trade links with Pakistan, As they already have a FTA with Islamabad

 

[Max]

Regional Cooperation for Development (RCD) was a multi-governmental organization which
was originally established in 1964 by Iran, Pakistan and Turkey to allow socio-economic development of the member states. In 1979, this organization was dissolved. It was replaced by Economic Cooperation Organization (ECO) in 1985. Seven new members were added Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan.

ECO can easily replace saarc for Pakistan if we try hard to make possible its summit happen every year, moreover, we can have bilateral free trade agreement with freindly countries within saarc,

offcourse bharat can cry for isolation of Pakistan..

 

[Manidabest]

Regional Cooperation for Development (RCD) was a multi-governmental organization which
was originally established in 1964 by Iran, Pakistan and Turkey to allow socio-economic development of the member states. In 1979, this
organization was dissolved. It was replaced by Economic Cooperation Organization (ECO) in 1985. Seven new members were added Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan.

ECO can easily replace saarc for Pakistan if we try hard to make possible its summit happen every year, moreover, we can have bilateral free trade agreement with freindly countries within saarc,

offcourse bharat can cry for isolation of Pakistan..

ECO is the only organisation where Pakistan shud actively participate and make it better ......forget saarc it is a waste of time

 

[Gibbs]

Regional Cooperation for Development (RCD) was a multi-governmental organization which
was originally established in 1964 by Iran, Pakistan and Turkey to allow socio-economic development of the member states. In 1979, this
organization was dissolved. It was replaced by Economic Cooperation Organization (ECO) in 1985. Seven new members were added Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan.

ECO can easily replace saarc for Pakistan if we try hard to make possible its summit happen every year, moreover, we can have bilateral free trade agreement with freindly countries within saarc,

offcourse bharat can cry for isolation of Pakistan..

Mere Rhetoric, Pakistan cannot be isolated in any context, Not by the US not by the regional countries certainly not by India either, It's not some country middle of no where but a very strategic nation with a massive population and resources

Except for Bangladesh and Bhutan has anyone else made any direct mention of isolating or taking sides on this current conflict against Pakistan ? I dont think so, If i'm wrong can anybody provide a credible source not manipulative sensationalist Indian media BS stories pls.. Even Nepal has not made any reference to Pakistan on it's official media release on the causes of the postponement of the SAARC summit

 

[TopCat]

That does not mean anything. Countries can be part of different groupings. It does not mean any grouping would suffer.

India itself is part of SCO as well, does not mean we are not trying our level best in SAARC and now in future BIMSTEC.

I did not say you cant not join any grouping but it is very hard to maintain inside multiple economic block with FTA.

 

[Tshering22]

The recent issues with SAARC has created some new questions about the organization's usefulness as well as the possibility of BIMSTEC replacing it.
However Pakistan is currently not a member despute being a significant nation in the region

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/573020/with-saarcs-fate-uncertain-india.html
http://southasiamonitor.org/detail.php?type=sl&nid=10234

So whats the opinion

@Nilgiri @ranjeet @waz @Gibbs @Stannis Baratheon @Tshering22 @LA se Karachi @bongbang @Horus @MBI Munshi etc

I agree.

In fact in the long run, BIMSTEC can become the launching base of a strong economic cohesion between ASEAN and the countries of the subcontinent.

None of the members in this grouping have ideological issues

None of them are hostile to each other.

All are rich in natural resources and many of them are opening up to globalisation like Myanmar which can be of a major benefit for all the people here.

Mere Rhetoric, Pakistan cannot be isolated in any context, Not by the US not by the regional countries certainly not by India either, It's not some country middle of no where but a very strategic nation with a massive population and resources

Except for Bangladesh and Bhutan has anyone else made any direct mention of isolating or taking sides on this current conflict against Pakistan ? I dont think so, If i'm wrong can anybody provide a credible source not manipulative sensationalist Indian media BS stories pls.. Even Nepal has not made any reference to Pakistan on it's official media release on the causes of the postponement of the SAARC summit

Listen, the only reason why Pakistan is important is because of Afghanistan. That's where the North South Corridor between Russia-India-Iran comes into play.

Indeed you have good ties with them and that is your choice as a free country. But you certainly agree that terrorism cannot be a state policy.

Indians have no problem with Pakistanis. We only have issues with the elements that create, nurture and foment terrorism and kill our people just for a historic obsession.

 

[Max]

Listen, the only reason why Pakistan is important is because of Afghanistan. That's where the North South Corridor between Russia-India-Iran comes into play.

If its about India then it will remain dream like Chabah

I agree.

In fact in the long run, BIMSTEC can become the launching base of a strong economic cohesion between ASEAN and the countries of the subcontinent.

None of the members in this grouping have ideological issues

None of them are hostile to each other.

All are rich in natural resources and many of them are opening up to globalisation like Myanmar which can be of a major benefit for all the people here.



Listen, the only reason why Pakistan is important is because of Afghanistan. That's where the North South Corridor between Russia-India-Iran comes into play.

Indeed you have good ties with them and that is your choice as a free country. But you certainly agree that terrorism cannot be a state policy.

Indians have no problem with Pakistanis. We only have issues with the elements that create, nurture and foment terrorism and kill our people just for a historic obsession.

listen bharti, i know gangaland is a cursed land with no strategic importance to offer but that does not mean u should say shit like Pakistan's importance depends on Aghanistan, . Stick to irrelevent chabahar and try not to build that again on teja speed..

And it doesnt look good when bhangi from gangaland talk against terrorism while having rich history of terrorism from Mukti bahini against Pakistan, LTTE against sri lanka which cause 30 years of civil war and also first to use suicide bombers in south asia, northern terrorist against Afghans, TTP and BLA against Pakistan.. And no need to mention occupation of nepali and bengali deep state by terrorist hindustan.

We too have no problem with bhartis if you ugly stinky occupiers leave Kashmiris with thier own land alone, and ask ur gangaland occupiers to fcvk themselve in gangaland, otherwise you can keep crying against Pakistan or stage fake surgical strikes in bharti media. Pakistan will keep supporting hurriyet and Mujahideen freedom fighters since talks is no option with hindutva regime... I hope Pakistan also elect some right wing extrimist so your hindutva get what they want...

 

[Manidabest]

I agree.

In fact in the long run, BIMSTEC can become the launching base of a strong economic cohesion between ASEAN and the countries of the subcontinent.

None of the members in this grouping have ideological issues

None of them are hostile to each other.

All are rich in natural resources and many of them are opening up to globalisation like Myanmar which can be of a major benefit for all the people here.


Listen, the only reason why Pakistan is important is because of Afghanistan. That's where the North South Corridor between Russia-India-Iran comes into play.

Indeed you have good ties with them and that is your choice as a free country. But you certainly agree that terrorism cannot be a state policy.

Indians have no problem with Pakistanis. We only have issues with the elements that create, nurture and foment terrorism and kill our people just for a historic obsession.

Well Afghanistan is not the only reason infact ex US president Richard Nixon stated in his book that there is only one country which is important from Tokyo to Istanbul and that country is Pakistan....Pakistan's geopolitical situation is its best friend and its worst enemy .... in North access to Central Asia & China a major source for natural resource & a big Economy & next rising power, in east is India a big market for consumer goods, in the west is Middle East full of resources and a big market for luxury goods and a very strategic location.... then comes the South very close to strait of hormuz where almost 35% of oil everyday is transported via Sea and a port which everyone is fighting for....if anyone think that one can isolate such a country then he / she lives in a dream land....

2ndly every sane person will agree that terrorism cannot be a state policy. We Pakistanis have no issues with Indians. We only have issues with those elements who fail to understand that Kashmir is a disputed territory and when local Kashmiris remind them by protesting then they are repelled by pallet guns, their women get raped & their men get killed.

we have issues with those elements who send spies to our country for sabotage activities, we have issues with those elements who without the investigation of any incident start pointing finger at us just for an unrealistic dream of taking over Pakistan to make akhand bharat

 

[Gibbs]

Listen, the only reason why Pakistan is important is because of Afghanistan. That's where the North South Corridor between Russia-India-Iran comes into play.

That means you're underestimating them or overestimating India, Which is more damaging to you than them

We only have issues with the elements that create, nurture and foment terrorism and kill our people just for a historic obsession.

I could quote you word for word on what Lankans have been saying for over 30 years

I dont intend to get in to argument on between who does what with terrorism, Terrorism need to be abhorred in any form,

But my contention is hypocrisy

 

[HeinzG]

SAARC should move to kick out pakistan.

SAARC should dissolve as a organization in the first place.

 

[wiseone2]

That means you're underestimating them or overestimating India, Which is more damaging to you than them

Most countries with democratic governments want to go on with the business of improving their people's living conditions. there is no point dealing with states that have no interest

 

[Gibbs]

Most countries with democratic governments want to go on with the business of improving their people's living conditions. there is no point dealing with states that have no interest

Dealing or not is ones own prerogative but you cant underestimate another especially with you're at odds with.. You cant just say Pakistan doesn't have the interests of it's people, sure the focus may have been on internal security matters in recent years, But as things hopefully stabilize there , It's resources will be directed elsewhere as welfare

 

[Imran Khan]

BIMSTEC or biscuit we should not care south asia anymore . tiny countries are already knee down and India using them as police man of south aisa . lets stick on china ASEAN SCO .