Biman gets 787 for cheap as trade war-hit Chinese airline buckles

[bluesky]

Total 16

So, it is 16 now and will increase to 18 with the new purchase. Is this number good enough to do good business? Most of Hajj passengers are carried by the ME airlines. However, whatever is the number it is quite difficult for BIMAN to do business with people at the top lacking airlines business professionalism. @TopCat may highlight the real picture there.

 

[Avicenna]

So, it is 16 now and will increase to 18 with the new purchase. Is this number good enough to do good business? Most of Hajj passengers are carried by the ME airlines. However, whatever is the number it is quite difficult for BIMAN to do business with people at the top lacking airlines business professionalism. @TopCat may highlight the real picture there.

No the 16 includes the new 787-9.

 

[UKBengali]

They got too greedy, they used to be my favorite manufacturer until airbus aircrafts became more common and I see why that’s the case, airbus is superior in almost every way

Boeing aircraft are just as good as Airbus but the US government is more to blame for their problems.
There are far more stringent external testing standards in EU than in US. It was simply crazy to allow Boeing to certify their own planes!
I hope that Boeing gets back on it's feet with proper external testing procedures put in place, as the world needs these two manufacturers to compete with each other to drive quality and keep prices in check.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Boeing aircraft are just as good as Airbus but the US government is more to blame for their problems.
There are far more stringent external testing standards in EU than in US. It was simply crazy to allow Boeing to certify their own planes!
I hope that Boeing gets back on it's feet with proper external testing procedures put in place, as the world needs these two manufacturers to compete with each other to drive quality and keep prices in check.

Don’t get me wrong but Boeing’s way of doing business is not ideal to stay competitive, hydraulic instead of fly by wire like airbus... way too much cluttered instrument panel compared to airbus, cabin noise on airbus is usually lower and so are vibrations (sans turbulence) some pilots prefer Boeing and others airbus and it’s not bad as to say, but it’s like EV vs petrol cars, airbus has a lot of technology to aid the pilot

 

[UKBengali]

Don’t get me wrong but Boeing’s way of doing business is not ideal to stay competitive, hydraulic instead of fly by wire like airbus... way too much cluttered instrument panel compared to airbus, cabin noise on airbus is usually lower and so are vibrations (sans turbulence) some pilots prefer Boeing and others airbus and it’s not bad as to say, but it’s like EV vs petrol cars, airbus has a lot of technology to aid the pilot

Interestingly I was watching a documentary on the 2009 France Air flight from Brazil to France disaster yesterday and the aviation expert was making the point that Airbus planes are becoming so automated that pilots are almost being reduced to passengers.
When the systems temporarily failed they did not have enough experience to manually fly the plane safely. Bit of an extreme example there but there are pros and cons between the Boeing and Airbus philisophies.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Interestingly I was watching a documentary on the 2009 France Air flight from Brazil to France disaster yesterday and the aviation expert was making the point that Airbus planes are becoming so automated that pilots are almost being reduced to passengers.
When the systems temporarily failed they did not have enough experience to manually fly the plane safely. Bit of an extreme example there but there are pros and cons between the Boeing and Airbus philisophies.

Well I agree, pilots from both sides usually fly on autopilot nowadays except for when there’s rough tail wind... pilots replan the speed, navigation etc and just keep check on if everything is going alright...
I remember when Boeing 777-300er were still relatively new in emirates fleet, there was a high crosswind and aircrafts were descending pretty hard to avoid being told to redirect elsewhere, pilot had a failed landing and the next attempt was just horryfying to say the least... had the pilot had a bad stroke of luck we would have crashed. Compare that to now and pilot skills and ACT instructions have improved quite a lot so I’ve no gripes for flying on Boeing especially the wide bodies. Narrow bodies are just inherently more dangerous to fly through situation like that and given rookie pilots start there, it’s not a surprise

oh and I forgot, but hydraulics usually don’t have a redundant build in in failure... so compensating action is needed compared to fly by wires multiple redundancy