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Was India involved in the 2014 Pakistan school attack?​

Imran Khan’s national security advisor says Islamabad has concrete evidence showing New Delhi’s link with the attack, one that left 144 children dead.

Pakistan has linked India to the deadly 2014 attack on a school in Peshawar in which more than a hundred children were killed.

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Pakistan has linked India to the deadly 2014 attack on a school in Peshawar in which more than a hundred children were killed.
India was involved in the 2014 deadly terrorist attack on a military-run school in Pakistan in which 144 children, between the age of 8 and 18, were killed, a top Pakistani official said on Tuesday.
Islamabad has spent years gathering data, which shows New Delhi had a hand in the assault on the Army Public School (APS) in Peshawar as well as some other terrorist activities, claims Moeed Yusuf, who is Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan’s National Security Advisor.
Even though Pakistan and India have repeatedly accused each other of backing terrorists and militants, Yusuf made fresh revelations in an interview with Indian journalist Karan Thapar of The Wire.
“Malik Faridoon who masterminded the attack from Jalalabad (in Afghanistan) was in touch with handlers at the Indian consulate as children were massacred in broad daylight,” he said.
“The same person was treated in New Delhi in 2017.”
Yusuf said Pakistan has obtained a record of eight phone calls including the numbers used by the Indian handlers to orchestrate the attack.
This revelation came in response to Thapar’s question about the 2008 Mumbai carnage in which 166 people were killed and for which New Delhi blames Islamabad.
Thapar highlighted that a senior Pakistani investigator, Tariq Khosa, has admitted to the involvement of Pakistani militants, some of whom are facing trial but haven’t been prosecuted yet.
Abdul Basit, a former Pakistani diplomat who served as an ambassador in India, said that Islamabad had suspected New Delhi’s role in the APS attack from day one.
“I don’t see any revelation as far as this matter is concerned, although some of the details have been shared for the first time,” he told TRT World.
Soon after the school attack, Pakistan’s then military leadership had traveled to Afghanistan with information about India’s link with the Tehreek Taliban Pakistan (TTP), he said.
The TTP, not to be confused with the Afghan Taliban, is a militant group which has targeted and killed scores of civilians and military officials in the past decade.
Let the Kashmiris decide
Moeed Yusuf is the first senior Pakistani official to give an interview to any Indian news outlet since New Delhi stripped the disputed Muslim-majority Kashmir region from its nominal autonomy in August last year.
The Himalayan valley of Kashmir is claimed by both nuclear-armed neighbours. Both control parts of the territory, view each other as illegal occupiers and have fought wars to take its control.
“Kashmirs can’t bear the thought of being Indian. Kashmiris hate India,” Yusuf said when asked what he thought about the revocation of Article 370 of the Indian Constitution that had given Kashmir its special status for decades.
India has not only ignored multiple resolutions from the United Nations, which support the Kashmiris’ right to self determination, but also walked back on its promise to try and negotiate a resolution at a bilateral level with Pakistan, Yusuf said.
Thapar countered many of Yusuf’s assertions, pointing out that changing Kashmir’s constitutional status was an internal Indian matter and no country except for Turkey and Malaysia has backed Pakistan on the issue.
Thapar also challenged Yusuf asking why Pakistan accuses India of ‘genocide’ in Kashmir, but doesn’t accuse China of the same with regards to the Uyghur population in Xinjiang, China.
Yusuf countered by saying that Pakistan is completely satisfied with China’s stance on the issue, going on to say that Uyghurs are a “non-issue” for Pakistan. He did not clarify whether this was Pakistan’s official stance on the issue.
Basit, the former diplomat, said that the Pakistan government must not engage with India, which has “left no space for diplomacy between the two countries” by its aggressive moves such as the deployment of hundreds of thousands of additional troops and lockdowns in Kashmir.
“I personally would never recommend my government to reach out to New Delhi to recommence the process of negotiation knowing full well that it would not go anywhere.”
Ideally, Islamabad should seek international mediation. “In my view, it should engage the United Nations Secretary General, mandated by the UN Security Council, in the process.
“India has already disowned the dialogue process. It is only trying to buy time with proposals for talks. We should be familiar with these tactics by now,” said Basit.

We hanged Qasaab for the same thing you know.


you hanged a patsy .. in India's kangaroo courts.

move on
 
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And for APS massacre, please do submit another dossier.

ok how about the Samjota Express bomber .. a hindu indian army major.. living free and bragging his murder of Pakistanis.
 
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Was India involved in the 2014 Pakistan school attack?​

Imran Khan’s national security advisor says Islamabad has concrete evidence showing New Delhi’s link with the attack, one that left 144 children dead.

Pakistan has linked India to the deadly 2014 attack on a school in Peshawar in which more than a hundred children were killed.

AP ARCHIVE
Pakistan has linked India to the deadly 2014 attack on a school in Peshawar in which more than a hundred children were killed.
India was involved in the 2014 deadly terrorist attack on a military-run school in Pakistan in which 144 children, between the age of 8 and 18, were killed, a top Pakistani official said on Tuesday.
Islamabad has spent years gathering data, which shows New Delhi had a hand in the assault on the Army Public School (APS) in Peshawar as well as some other terrorist activities, claims Moeed Yusuf, who is Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan’s National Security Advisor.
Even though Pakistan and India have repeatedly accused each other of backing terrorists and militants, Yusuf made fresh revelations in an interview with Indian journalist Karan Thapar of The Wire.
“Malik Faridoon who masterminded the attack from Jalalabad (in Afghanistan) was in touch with handlers at the Indian consulate as children were massacred in broad daylight,” he said.
“The same person was treated in New Delhi in 2017.”
Yusuf said Pakistan has obtained a record of eight phone calls including the numbers used by the Indian handlers to orchestrate the attack.
This revelation came in response to Thapar’s question about the 2008 Mumbai carnage in which 166 people were killed and for which New Delhi blames Islamabad.
Thapar highlighted that a senior Pakistani investigator, Tariq Khosa, has admitted to the involvement of Pakistani militants, some of whom are facing trial but haven’t been prosecuted yet.
Abdul Basit, a former Pakistani diplomat who served as an ambassador in India, said that Islamabad had suspected New Delhi’s role in the APS attack from day one.
“I don’t see any revelation as far as this matter is concerned, although some of the details have been shared for the first time,” he told TRT World.
Soon after the school attack, Pakistan’s then military leadership had traveled to Afghanistan with information about India’s link with the Tehreek Taliban Pakistan (TTP), he said.
The TTP, not to be confused with the Afghan Taliban, is a militant group which has targeted and killed scores of civilians and military officials in the past decade.
Let the Kashmiris decide
Moeed Yusuf is the first senior Pakistani official to give an interview to any Indian news outlet since New Delhi stripped the disputed Muslim-majority Kashmir region from its nominal autonomy in August last year.
The Himalayan valley of Kashmir is claimed by both nuclear-armed neighbours. Both control parts of the territory, view each other as illegal occupiers and have fought wars to take its control.
“Kashmirs can’t bear the thought of being Indian. Kashmiris hate India,” Yusuf said when asked what he thought about the revocation of Article 370 of the Indian Constitution that had given Kashmir its special status for decades.
India has not only ignored multiple resolutions from the United Nations, which support the Kashmiris’ right to self determination, but also walked back on its promise to try and negotiate a resolution at a bilateral level with Pakistan, Yusuf said.
Thapar countered many of Yusuf’s assertions, pointing out that changing Kashmir’s constitutional status was an internal Indian matter and no country except for Turkey and Malaysia has backed Pakistan on the issue.
Thapar also challenged Yusuf asking why Pakistan accuses India of ‘genocide’ in Kashmir, but doesn’t accuse China of the same with regards to the Uyghur population in Xinjiang, China.
Yusuf countered by saying that Pakistan is completely satisfied with China’s stance on the issue, going on to say that Uyghurs are a “non-issue” for Pakistan. He did not clarify whether this was Pakistan’s official stance on the issue.
Basit, the former diplomat, said that the Pakistan government must not engage with India, which has “left no space for diplomacy between the two countries” by its aggressive moves such as the deployment of hundreds of thousands of additional troops and lockdowns in Kashmir.
“I personally would never recommend my government to reach out to New Delhi to recommence the process of negotiation knowing full well that it would not go anywhere.”
Ideally, Islamabad should seek international mediation. “In my view, it should engage the United Nations Secretary General, mandated by the UN Security Council, in the process.
“India has already disowned the dialogue process. It is only trying to buy time with proposals for talks. We should be familiar with these tactics by now,” said Basit.




you hanged a patsy .. in India's kangaroo courts.

move on

Just a quote about claim reported.. Nothing more
Imran Khan’s national security advisor says Islamabad
 
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US historically has been a close partner of Pakistan but Washington downgraded its ties with Islamabad after accusations that Islamabad had been supporting Afghan Taliban against US troops in the region.  / Photo: Reuters

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US historically has been a close partner of Pakistan but Washington downgraded its ties with Islamabad after accusations that Islamabad had been supporting Afghan Taliban against US troops in the region. / Photo: Reuters
US President Joe Biden and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi have called on Pakistan to act to ensure that its territory is not used to launch militant attacks, the White House said in a joint statement.
"They strongly condemned cross-border terrorism, the use of terrorist proxies and called on Pakistan to take immediate action to ensure that no territory under its control is used for launching terrorist attacks," the White House said on Thursday.
There was no immediate reaction from Islamabad on the US-India statement.

Relations between nuclear-armed neighbours India and Pakistan have been fraught for years.

Since British colonial rule in the Indian subcontinent ended in 1947, India and Pakistan have fought three wars, two of them over the Muslim-majority Himalayan region of Kashmir, which they both claim in full but rule in part.
India has for years accused Pakistan of helping rebels who have battled Indian troops in India-administered Kashmir since the late 1980s.
Pakistan denies the accusation and says it only provides diplomatic and moral support for Kashmiris seeking self-determination according to several UN resolutions.
Most Kashmiris support the rebel cause that the territory be united either under Pakistani rule or as an independent country.

India revoked Kashmir's limited autonomy in 2019 and annexed the region — move Pakistan calls illegal and wants it rolled back.
India's unilateral decision led the two countries to downgrade their diplomatic ties.

"President Biden and Prime Minister Modi reiterated the call for concerted action against all UN-listed terrorist groups" the joint statement said.

US-Pakistan ties

India under Modi has taken an increasingly hardline on Pakistan, announcing an air strike in 2019 in response to an attack by a Kashmiri suicide bomber in which some 40 Indian soldiers were killed.

Pakistan denied any role in the attack and maintained the entire episode was a "false flag" operation aimed to boost PM Modi's ratings in elections.

In response to the air raid by India in Pakistan's Balakot area, Pakistan said it shot down two Indian jets and arrested a pilot, Abhinandan Varthaman, who was later released by then Imran Khan's government in a goodwill gesture.

The United States historically has been a close partner of Pakistan but its accusation that Islamabad's powerful military and intelligence apparatus had been supporting Afghanistan's Taliban saw Washington downgrade its ties with Islamabad.

The Biden administration has kept Pakistan at arm's length since the US withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021, in contrast to warming relations with India.




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I am inclined to believe India now, because the harami generals have been lying to us about a lot of things, and this won't be too far fetched. Although, my doubt would come from the fact that these haramis generals always benefit India one way or another.
 
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Just a quote about claim reported.. Nothing more


like India's claim

I am inclined to believe India now, because the harami generals have been lying to us about a lot of things, and this won't be too far fetched. Although, my doubt would come from the fact that these haramis generals always benefit India one way or another.


india and army gen are same.. liars and haramis

 
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ok how about the Samjota Express bomber .. a hindu indian army major.. living free and bragging his murder of Pakistanis.

You see that’s the point Prada.
The US had first accused LeT militants for this attack. But despite that, our National Investigation Agency proved that it was done by one of the Indian Army guys.

The intent here is to stop and curb the terrorism no matter who is involved. We didn’t try to hide and lie about it just because it was one of the army guys.

I hope you get the point.
 
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I think Pakistan - more than any other country - should understand that keeping the terrorists to launch attack on neighbors is not a good idea, after all. Pakistan lost 60k+ lives due to ’good terrorists bad terrorists’ policy but, to everyone’s surprise, refuses to learn the lessons.

The economic damage this ‘good terrorist bad terrorist’ policy has caused is unparalleled. Look where Pakistan is now, roaming with the begging bowl from countries to countries, institutions to institutions , selling off Karachi port in the process.

Hopefully Pakistan will listen to the sane and rational advise US and India have given about terrorism and things will turn around for better.
Problem is that those "Good" ones are freedom fighter mujahideen, rest are R&AW agents for them.
 
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You see that’s the point Prada.
The US had first accused LeT militants for this attack. But despite that, our National Investigation Agency proved that it was done by one of the Indian Army guys.

The intent here is to stop and curb the terrorism no matter who is involved. We didn’t try to hide and lie about it just because it was one of the army guys.

I hope you get the point.


the point is a India habitual liar.

take example the Palwana attacks on harmeee indian army .. muslims rebels in Kashmir did it.. every proof indicated it was a in house job. Yet modi being anti muslim bigot lied and used it to bomb Pakistan ( and missed)

Problem is that those "Good" ones are freedom fighter mujahideen, rest are R&AW agents for them.



Indian army has raped, mass murdered and tortured in Kashmir .. this is globally accepted fact. So yes people would want to take revenge and give india a payback.

make no mistake india is the bad guy..




The people of Kunan and neighbouring Poshpora accuse the Indian army of carrying out a planned mass rape of the women in these two far-flung villages. They also claim that while the women were gang-raped, the men were subjected to horrific torture, and that they have been fighting for justice these last 26 years.
 
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the point is a India habitual liar.
By saying that Samjhauta express attack was done by Indians?

take example the Palwana attacks on harmeee indian army .. muslims rebels in Kashmir did it.. every proof indicated it was a in house job. Yet modi being anti muslim bigot lied and used it to bomb Pakistan ( and missed)

You are constantly changing the topics.
First Jadhav, then APS attack, then Samjhauta and now, after I countered your previous topics, you turned to Pulwama.

If I answer that, you will turn to something else.

Just submit the dossier to the UN and the world buddy, and see how many takers you find? How many did you find the last time?
 
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you need to read the international press.

Just submit the dossier and see how many takers you find on the world stage. I’m sure you are aware what happened last time.
 
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You are constantly changing the topics.


all the same...


indian lies.


india has no proof that Pakistan carried this out and still cannot provide it ..surprise surprise ..bcos none exist

Just submit the dossier and see how many takers you find on the world stage. I’m sure you are aware what happened last time.


submitted with proof.. no response but no body disputed they were wrong.

Great job by Khan's NSA moeed
 
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all the same...


indian lies.


india has no proof that Pakistan carried this out and still cannot provide it ..surprise surprise ..bcos none exist
US believes it apparently. That’s why they issued this statement in the first place.
 
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an example of India's kangaroo courts at work..


US believes it apparently. That’s why they issued this statement in the first place.


excellent you Brought USA into it ... US also believes that India conducts terrorism in Baluchistan as US Sect. of Defense stated on record.


interesting title but WSK puts India's in it's place.. US doesn't care about human rights especially via muslims. It is all about containing China

watch.. this is good fun


 
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