Bhoja Air Flight crashes on final approach to Islamabad Airport.
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The CAA official in the press conference clearly mentioned the rapid loss of height from 2900 feet to 2000 feet, indicating micro burst.
Although it could have got struck by lightning.
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I hope the next election lays the basis of some optimism. Perhaps it is the darkest just before dawn, eh?
No. There are no quick fixes for a mess that that evolved over decades.
We need to wait for the FDR results.
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Yes we do. At the moment, this is just the initial reports.
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Many other causes are possible still. Everything needs to be looked at carefully in the light of evidence as it is developed and analyzed.
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The grieving has only just begun; it will last a lifetime.
from: Families of air crash victims mourn | DAWN.COM
A Pakistani airliner with 127 people on board crashed in bad weather as it came in to land in Islamabad on Friday, scattering wreckage and leaving no sign of survivors.
The Boeing 737, operated by local airline Bhoja Air, was flying to the capital from Pakistan’s biggest city and business hub Karachi. It crashed into wheat fields more than five miles from the airport.
Bhoja Air said the airplane crashed during its approach in Islamabad due to bad weather. There was no indication from the government that it could have been the result of foul play.
A man who had been waiting at Islamabad’s Benazir Bhutto International Airport for the flight yelled “my two daughters are dead” as tears streamed down his face.
In a state of shock, he then slumped on the floor and sat silently as other relatives of passengers crowded around lists of those on board.
The uncle of the sisters, 18 and 20, said they were supposed to return to Islamabad on Sunday but flew early to see an aunt who is visiting from London.
“We don’t even know when or where we will get to see their bodies,” said the uncle, Qamar Abbas, who kept mumbling “no, no, no” to himself.
At the capital’s main hospital, rescue workers brought in remains of the passengers placed under white sheets soaked in blood.
As the police struggled to keep order, trying to keep the distraught calm and television cameras away, Mohammad Nasir hoped somehow that his brother’s body would be intact despite the horrific force of the crash.
He approached other relatives of passengers and hospital workers. He kept asking “have you seen any whole bodies?”
The Boeing Company said in a statement on its website that it “wishes to extend its profound condolences to the families and friends” of the Bhoja Air passengers.
At Karachi airport, Asim Hashmi complained the airline’s counter was shut and he had no way of obtaining information on his aunt and cousin, who were on flight B4-213.
“We don’t know anything,” he said. “Just pray for the souls of the departed. That is all we can do now.”
from: Families of air crash victims mourn | DAWN.COM
A Pakistani airliner with 127 people on board crashed in bad weather as it came in to land in Islamabad on Friday, scattering wreckage and leaving no sign of survivors.
The Boeing 737, operated by local airline Bhoja Air, was flying to the capital from Pakistan’s biggest city and business hub Karachi. It crashed into wheat fields more than five miles from the airport.
Bhoja Air said the airplane crashed during its approach in Islamabad due to bad weather. There was no indication from the government that it could have been the result of foul play.
A man who had been waiting at Islamabad’s Benazir Bhutto International Airport for the flight yelled “my two daughters are dead” as tears streamed down his face.
In a state of shock, he then slumped on the floor and sat silently as other relatives of passengers crowded around lists of those on board.
The uncle of the sisters, 18 and 20, said they were supposed to return to Islamabad on Sunday but flew early to see an aunt who is visiting from London.
“We don’t even know when or where we will get to see their bodies,” said the uncle, Qamar Abbas, who kept mumbling “no, no, no” to himself.
At the capital’s main hospital, rescue workers brought in remains of the passengers placed under white sheets soaked in blood.
As the police struggled to keep order, trying to keep the distraught calm and television cameras away, Mohammad Nasir hoped somehow that his brother’s body would be intact despite the horrific force of the crash.
He approached other relatives of passengers and hospital workers. He kept asking “have you seen any whole bodies?”
The Boeing Company said in a statement on its website that it “wishes to extend its profound condolences to the families and friends” of the Bhoja Air passengers.
At Karachi airport, Asim Hashmi complained the airline’s counter was shut and he had no way of obtaining information on his aunt and cousin, who were on flight B4-213.
“We don’t know anything,” he said. “Just pray for the souls of the departed. That is all we can do now.”
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That is good progress and the authorities are to be commended for this portion at least.
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from: BBC News - Pakistan plane crash investigation begins
Pakistan plane crash investigation begins
Air crash investigators are combing the wreckage of a passenger plane that crashed near the Pakistani capital Islamabad, killing all 127 on board.
Rescue teams working through the night identified 72 bodies and found the jet's flight recorder, officials said.
The Bhoja Air Boeing 737, which had flown from Karachi, crashed on its approach to the airport during a storm.
Grieving relatives have gathered at a hospital in Islamabad to claim the bodies of their loved ones.
The head of Bhoja Air has been barred from leaving the country pending the outcome of the inquiry, officials said.
The plane came down in the village of Hussain Abad on the outskirts of Islamabad on Friday evening, scattering debris over a wide area. There are so far no reports of villagers being among the casualties.
At a news conference on Saturday, Nadeem Khan Yousafzai, the head of Pakistan's Civil Aviation Authority, said the plane suddenly dropped from 2,900ft (883 metres) to 2,000ft as it was preparing to land.
"It just went down, into a dive. Then contact was lost.
"What happened in this period, that has to be investigated. Was there a downdraft, was there an engine failure?" Mr Yousafzai added.
Pakistani official Capt Arshad Mahmood said there was a heavy thunderstorm with hail as the plane came in to land.
"The weather was very bad. The pilot lost control and hit the ground. It [the plane] tossed up due to the impact and exploded and came down in a fireball," he said.
The plane was more than 27 years old, according to the Aviation Safety Network organisation.
Interior Minister Rehman Malik said that Farooq Bhoja, head of Bhoja Air, had been barred from leaving the country to ensure his co-operation with the investigation.
"It is being said that the aircraft was pretty old, so it has been ordered to investigate thoroughly the air worthiness of the Bhoja Air aircraft," Mr Malik said.
"The causes will be investigated, whether it was any fault in the aircraft, it was lightning, the bad weather or any other factor that caused the loss of precious lives."
The BBC's Aleem Maqbool in Islamabad says some people have also called into question Pakistan's system of regulating air safety.
The victims are said to include 11 children and a newly married couple.
A Bhoja Air official in Karachi said it had arranged to fly one member from each family to the capital.
At Islamabad airport, one man yelled "my two daughters are dead", before slumping to the floor in a state of shock.
Weeping relatives have been gathering at Islamabad's main hospital where dozens of coffins are lining a hallway.
Staff at the Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences, their faces covered with masks, sprayed air freshener as families tried to identify the remains.
Abdul Raoof, 55, said he had come for the body of his cousin.
"We have been here since early morning. We go inside the mortuary and return in depression after seeing body parts lying there," he said.
"We are traumatised. We want to get the body and leave this place as early as possible."
Bhoja Air is a small commercial airline that started domestic flights in 1993. It suspended operations in 2001 because of financial difficulties but recently re-opened.
In July 2010, an Airblue Airbus A321 crashed as it was about to land in Islamabad, killing all 152 people on board - Pakistan's worst-ever air disaster.
Although Pakistan's air industry has been booming, critics say standards have not always kept pace with the increase in services.
Pakistan plane crash investigation begins
Air crash investigators are combing the wreckage of a passenger plane that crashed near the Pakistani capital Islamabad, killing all 127 on board.
Rescue teams working through the night identified 72 bodies and found the jet's flight recorder, officials said.
The Bhoja Air Boeing 737, which had flown from Karachi, crashed on its approach to the airport during a storm.
Grieving relatives have gathered at a hospital in Islamabad to claim the bodies of their loved ones.
The head of Bhoja Air has been barred from leaving the country pending the outcome of the inquiry, officials said.
The plane came down in the village of Hussain Abad on the outskirts of Islamabad on Friday evening, scattering debris over a wide area. There are so far no reports of villagers being among the casualties.
At a news conference on Saturday, Nadeem Khan Yousafzai, the head of Pakistan's Civil Aviation Authority, said the plane suddenly dropped from 2,900ft (883 metres) to 2,000ft as it was preparing to land.
"It just went down, into a dive. Then contact was lost.
"What happened in this period, that has to be investigated. Was there a downdraft, was there an engine failure?" Mr Yousafzai added.
Pakistani official Capt Arshad Mahmood said there was a heavy thunderstorm with hail as the plane came in to land.
"The weather was very bad. The pilot lost control and hit the ground. It [the plane] tossed up due to the impact and exploded and came down in a fireball," he said.
The plane was more than 27 years old, according to the Aviation Safety Network organisation.
Interior Minister Rehman Malik said that Farooq Bhoja, head of Bhoja Air, had been barred from leaving the country to ensure his co-operation with the investigation.
"It is being said that the aircraft was pretty old, so it has been ordered to investigate thoroughly the air worthiness of the Bhoja Air aircraft," Mr Malik said.
"The causes will be investigated, whether it was any fault in the aircraft, it was lightning, the bad weather or any other factor that caused the loss of precious lives."
The BBC's Aleem Maqbool in Islamabad says some people have also called into question Pakistan's system of regulating air safety.
The victims are said to include 11 children and a newly married couple.
A Bhoja Air official in Karachi said it had arranged to fly one member from each family to the capital.
At Islamabad airport, one man yelled "my two daughters are dead", before slumping to the floor in a state of shock.
Weeping relatives have been gathering at Islamabad's main hospital where dozens of coffins are lining a hallway.
Staff at the Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences, their faces covered with masks, sprayed air freshener as families tried to identify the remains.
Abdul Raoof, 55, said he had come for the body of his cousin.
"We have been here since early morning. We go inside the mortuary and return in depression after seeing body parts lying there," he said.
"We are traumatised. We want to get the body and leave this place as early as possible."
Bhoja Air is a small commercial airline that started domestic flights in 1993. It suspended operations in 2001 because of financial difficulties but recently re-opened.
In July 2010, an Airblue Airbus A321 crashed as it was about to land in Islamabad, killing all 152 people on board - Pakistan's worst-ever air disaster.
Although Pakistan's air industry has been booming, critics say standards have not always kept pace with the increase in services.
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inna lilahe wainna ilaihe rajiun
allah rahem kare pakistan per, itni amwaat ne har pakistanio ko jhinjodh ker rakh dya hai
families have been lost due to this plane crash
point to be noted
1) the plane was not suitable for itsmaintainance condition to be given a fly off licence, it was given due to corrupt govt
its point of deep thinking,corruption is costing so much lives and of course adding to nation's misery
allah rahem kare pakistan per, itni amwaat ne har pakistanio ko jhinjodh ker rakh dya hai
families have been lost due to this plane crash
point to be noted
1) the plane was not suitable for itsmaintainance condition to be given a fly off licence, it was given due to corrupt govt
its point of deep thinking,corruption is costing so much lives and of course adding to nation's misery
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Not at all. These deaths are not enough to wake Pakistanis up from their slumber. Just like the furor over the Air Blue crash died down without any substantive changes, so will this, too.
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i meant common pakistani not corrupt officials
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Yes, that makes more sense. The common folk are indeed upset and hurting, but their rulers are busy enjoying their comfortable lives. Sadly this status quo is likely to continue.
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Watching a detailed analyst from Ground Zero by the Express News with the help of experts, it's easy to draw the following conclusions.
Three minutes from landing, the aircraft for whatever reasons, touched down in a field (Deep tyre marks obvious in the soft soil).
After realising the horror, the pilot(s) try and pull up and in process clip a boundary wall and knock over a 20 Feet tall tree, this would have caused major structural damage and ruptured the fuel tanks. As the airliner desperately tried to gain height, the aircraft which was now on fire began to disintegrate, hence being low on height, the wreckage didn't spread over a wide area.
The fact, according to the experts, that the tyres were intact points to the theory that the aircraft didn't at first just fall from the sky or else the tyre would have blown.
Another question is how could have pilot confused the runway, since where the aircraft touched down (Field), it was pitch black where as the runway would have been brightly lit up.
So many questions......require some real answers. !!!
Three minutes from landing, the aircraft for whatever reasons, touched down in a field (Deep tyre marks obvious in the soft soil).
After realising the horror, the pilot(s) try and pull up and in process clip a boundary wall and knock over a 20 Feet tall tree, this would have caused major structural damage and ruptured the fuel tanks. As the airliner desperately tried to gain height, the aircraft which was now on fire began to disintegrate, hence being low on height, the wreckage didn't spread over a wide area.
The fact, according to the experts, that the tyres were intact points to the theory that the aircraft didn't at first just fall from the sky or else the tyre would have blown.
Another question is how could have pilot confused the runway, since where the aircraft touched down (Field), it was pitch black where as the runway would have been brightly lit up.
So many questions......require some real answers. !!!
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The formation of USAR (Urban Search and rescue-the guys in the orange overalls) is really a very good thing, gives us an organized force for these situations,. 1122 is also a good service. Credit has to be given.
Today a Shaheen Air aircraft had it's landing gear burst on landing at Karachi airport.
The astonishing thing is that the passengers were taken off after half an hour. Isn't this a gross violation of basic aviation safety rules?
The engine and wing were rubbing against the ground.
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