Bhagat Singh Terrorist or freedom fighter????

[jatt+gutts]

Chal bahut bisti kara lai tun , hun saah maar

tumharee toh koyee izzatt he nahin...doormat kom...you keep on hrping about 1984 riots...khalistanis in 10 years killed more than 20000 majority of them hindus. there aint many hindus left in villages of india Punjab.. ask any punjabi

 

[M. Sarmad]

tumharee toh koyee izzatt he nahin...doormat kom...you keep on hrping about 1984 riots...khalistanis in 10 years killed more than 20000 majority of them hindus. there aint many hindus left in villages of india Punjab.. ask any punjabi

Bara koi dheeth hain bai tun ... Jat hai te mat nahi , mat ae te jat nai .. to waqai jatt aen pai

 

[jatt+gutts]

then don't disrespect our freedom fighters if you dunno any Pakistani freedom figter..I only asked Pakistanis to gimme names of freedom fighters from Pakistan and you started trolling.

 

[RazPaK]

Bara koi dheeth hain bai tun ... Jat hai te mat nahi , mat ae te jat nai .. to waqai jatt aen pai

What's worse is that these Bhappa Singhs also killed Sikhs under the order of Hindus. They killed their own people and then they talk about slavery. Beghairats.

 

[jatt+gutts]

if you will try to spit on moon it will come down to your face...don't disrespect our heroes when you have none

 

[RazPaK]

then don't disrespect our freedom fighters if you dunno any Pakistani freedom figter..I only asked Pakistanis to gimme names of freedom fighters from Pakistan and you started trolling.

Dulla Bhatti

Rai Ahmed Khan Kharal


Shah Abdul Qadir Ludhianvi

 

[M. Sarmad]

if you will try to spit on moon it will come down to your face..

Bhai maantay bhi ho And still you are trying to talk bad about Pakistan and Muslims !!

then don't disrespect our freedom fighters if you dunno any Pakistani freedom figter..I only asked Pakistanis to gimme names of freedom fighters from Pakistan and you started trolling.

Did you even bother to read my posts about Bhagat Singh ?? You are an idiot , and you know nothing about history . You come here only to troll !!

 

[Jaggu]

Dulla Bhatti

Rai Ahmed Khan Kharal


Shah Abdul Qadir Ludhianvi

Also General Shah Nawaz Khan who was a general in the INA and grandfather of Shahrukh Khan.

 

[Jaggu]

oye mc that picture is of namdhari Sikhs of kooka movement...if only you had stomach to fight the invaders you wouldn't been what you are today


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Although they look like Sikhs but I would have to agree with the others. That picture is not of Kuka Sikhs, the turban style is different from the Kuka Sikhs. In that picture notice how the men are crying in pain and look lost. On the other hand, the Kuka Sikhs were known to be enthusiastic and smiling while singing Gurbani while being tied to the cannons before being blown apart. A young Singh named Varyam Singh who was too short to be tied to the cannon himself went searching for bricks which he placed to elevate himself so he could attain martyrdom with the rest of his companions in front of a cannon. So it's definitely not Kukas.

This is how a Kuka Sikh looked back then: The turban style is different.

 

[dawn_news]

Although they look like Sikhs but I would have to agree with the others. That picture is not of Kuka Sikhs, the turban style is different from the Kuka Sikhs. In that picture notice how the men are crying in pain and look lost. On the other hand, the Kuka Sikhs were known to be enthusiastic and smiling while singing Gurbani while being tied to the cannons before being blown apart. A young Singh named Varyam Singh who was too short to be tied to the cannon himself went searching for bricks which he placed to elevate himself so he could attain martyrdom with the rest of his companions in front of a cannon. So it's definitely not Kukas.

This is how a Kuka Sikh looked back then: The turban style is different.

Im right in saying if sikhs and punjabi muslims didnt help British in 1857, freedom could have been archived much early?

 

[Jaggu]

Im right in saying if sikhs and punjabi muslims didnt help British in 1857, freedom could have been archived much early?

it's not just Punjabi Sikhs or Muslims. But even the Hindus of Haryana, Himachal(which back then was part of Punjab), the Gurkhas, Rajputs who played a very crucial role in 1857. Today It's wrong to say one party is wrong and traitorous because of this. back then the people of Punjab and NW frontier were very proud of their martial qualities. They did not regard the poorbias(people from UP/Bihar) as brave or strong similar to how Pathans have a similar attitude about the Punjabis who they do not regard as brave or strong as themselves. But the British used these same poorbias to conquer all of India and defeated the traditionally held martial people such as the Gurkhas, Punjabis, Rajasthanis, Marathas.

From what I have heard from elders, when the poorbia sepoys helped the British conquer Punjab, they began to act very arrogantly and at times even mis behaved with Punjabis who had just lost to the British. Punjabis by nature are such that they do not forget grudges very easily. When 1857 happened, the Punjabis saw their chance to set the record straight with the poorbias and also gain favour with the British in the process.

The good thing would have been if Punjabis would have joined the sepoys and kicked out the British. At least that would have been better than being slaves of the British for a 100 years more.

 

[dawn_news]

it's not just Punjabi Sikhs or Muslims. But even the Hindus of Haryana, Himachal(which back then was part of Punjab), the Gurkhas, Rajputs who played a very crucial role in 1857. Today It's wrong to say one party is wrong and traitorous because of this. back then the people of Punjab and NW frontier were very proud of their martial qualities. They did not regard the poorbias(people from UP/Bihar) as brave or strong similar to how Pathans have a similar attitude about the Punjabis who they do not regard as brave or strong as themselves. But the British used these same poorbias to conquer all of India and defeated the traditionally held martial people such as the Gurkhas, Punjabis, Rajasthanis, Marathas.

From what I have heard from elders, when the poorbia sepoys helped the British conquer Punjab, they began to act very arrogantly and at times even mis behaved with Punjabis who had just lost to the British. Punjabis by nature are such that they do not forget grudges very easily. When 1857 happened, the Punjabis saw their chance to set the record straight with the poorbias and also gain favour with the British in the process.

The good thing would have been if Punjabis would have joined the sepoys and kicked out the British. At least that would have been better than being slaves of the British for a 100 years more.

I know punjabis helped British to settle score with those who early on helped British conquer punjab.

 

[Patriots]

So what are your views about Mr. Jinnah then??

Mr. Jinnah was not declared terrorist from either side ..................

Baloch people are proud freedom fighters from Pakistani oppression and chauvinism.
Pakistani hypocrisy.

Give one example from common Baloch ..............

 

[Patriots]

He fought for you and your people

You didn't get my point ... Plz read again ..............

 

[jatt+gutts]

Although they look like Sikhs but I would have to agree with the others. That picture is not of Kuka Sikhs, the turban style is different from the Kuka Sikhs. In that picture notice how the men are crying in pain and look lost. On the other hand, the Kuka Sikhs were known to be enthusiastic and smiling while singing Gurbani while being tied to the cannons before being blown apart. A young Singh named Varyam Singh who was too short to be tied to the cannon himself went searching for bricks which he placed to elevate himself so he could attain martyrdom with the rest of his companions in front of a cannon. So it's definitely not Kukas.

This is how a Kuka Sikh looked back then: The turban style is different.

namdharis even to this day wear same clothes. if they weren't kukas then could you tell me who they were and where in india peope wore those type of clothes. the pic I posted is there in N.C.E.R.T books being taught in india.

Punjab was the last to come under british empire.. non Punjabis helped british in 2nd Sikh british war in1948 then how can you expect Sikhs to help you 9 years later forgetting everything.

SIKH CONTRUBUTION TO FREEDOM MOVEMENT...

(From ‘History of Indian National Congress’)


S.No.

Nature of Sentence

Sikhs

Total Indians

1.

Hanged

93

121

2.

Life-imprisonment

2147

2848

3.

Martyred in Jallianwala Bagh

799

1300

4.

Martyred in Baj-Baj Port

67

113

5.

Martyred in Kuka Movement

91

91

6.

Gurudwara Laher

531

531

Total

3728

4771

· In 1824, sikh majority company 47 Native Infantry refused to fight against Bermese brothers. They supported them. 11 November, 1824 Sir Adward gave 879 sikh the death sentences.

· In 1824, Talpedar Vijay Singh of Kunja in Roorkee leads in the mutiny of army. 211 sikh armymen killed in gun fire, 18 were hanged.

· 14 October, 1925, Grenadiers Company refused to suppress Assamese. Two Sikhs Kartar Singh and Hari Singh were hanged.

· In 1857, Kuka movement. About 70 years before non-cooperation movement of Mahatma Gandhi, one sikh Baba Ram Singh started a non-cooperation movement against the British Raj. English language, English cloths, Government services, courts, Post Office, Rail and Railway were totally boycotted.

· In 1871, anti-cow slaughter movement was started by Namdhari Saints. Slaughter houses were removed from places situated near Shri Harmandir Sahib, Amritsar. Two butchers killed.

· In 1882, Ludhiana. Attempt to occupy artillery depot outside. 42 sikhs martyred.

· In 1907, movement of ‘Pagri Sambhal…..’ by S. Ajit Singh (uncle of S. Bhagat Singh).

· In 1913, Gader Party was formed in San Fransisco’s historic place Astoria in America to throw away the British Empire. The founder president of the Gadar Party was Sardar Sohan Singh Bhakana. Other leaders are Sardar Kesar Singh Thargarh – Vice President, Lala Hardayal – Secretary, Lala Thakur Dhuri – Joint Secretary, Sardar Kartar Singh Sarabha, Sardar Santokh Singh etc.

· 1908 – Foundation ofBabbar Akali Laher.

· 1914, Saka of Kam Gatta Maru. Out of 376 travellers, 355 were Sikhs. During firing at Baj-Baj Port, 67 sikhs were martyred.

· Reactions in Manilla, Shanghai, Japan, Canada and America against operation Kamagata Maru. On 24th October, 1914, a Jatha of 170 sikhs – all non resident Indians, reached Mumbai Port. All of them were arrested. Sent to mintgoomery and Multan Jail – Famous for tortures.

· March 1915, about 3125 sikh reached India from different countries to protest the events of ‘Kamagatta Maru’.

· 1915 and 1916, Kartar Singh Sarabha and his colleagues got arrested. Army mutiny case. The British Empire called it “The Lahore conspiracy case”. On 24th November 1917, 12 sikhs were hanged. After that 24 other Sikhs got death penalties from different courts.

· 13 April, 1919. Jallianwala Bagh Massacre. About 1300 people were killed, out of which 769 were Sikhs.

· Udham Singh took the revenge. He killed General O’ Dier.

· 9th August, 1921. Morch ‘Guru Ka Bagh’ of Shiromani Akali Dal. So many sikh martyred. Details of akali laher in thousands of pages.

· 1922. ‘Babbar Akali Laher’.

· 1921-1924. Gurudwara Sudhar Laher. A non-voilent movement. 500 sikh martyred.

· Movement against Colony Act. Those, who got life imprisonment, are all the Sikhs.

· 1914-1915. In Lahore central jail, 18 patriots belonging to Babar and Gaderites were hanged. Life imprisonment of 28 sikhs.

· 5 Brave Sikhs were hanged in ‘Lahore supplementary case’. 91 got life imprisonment out of which 90 were Sikhs. 50 Indians got other sentences, out of which 49 were Sikhs.

· 4 March 1930, Lathi charge on the sikh in a meeting of Pt. Motilal Nehru in Mumbai.

· 1931, some freedom fighters were being sent to Andman. Sardar Rattan Singh and his companions tried to freed them. Got arrested capital punishment.

· Sardar Kishan Singh Garhgunj, Bhai Ishar Singh Marhana, Master Tota Singh, Baba Kharak Singh, Master Mehtab Singh, Sardar Teja Singh Samundri, Sardar Teja Singh Akarpuri, Sardar Sardul Singh, Sardar Udham Singh Nagoake, Sardar Sohan Singh Josh, Sardar Teja Singh Smatantra, Sardar Sewa Singh Theekeriwal, Bhai Randhir Singh (Akhand Kirtani Jatha), Bhai Nidhan Singh Chug, Master Tara Singh are the leaders of the freedom movement.

· Bhagat Singh, a great revolutionary and patriot. A bomb was thrown inside the Parliament. The British Empire trembled. After Irvin – Gandhi Pact a hardcore revolutionary was hanged.

· Founder of ‘Azad Hind Fauz’ was General Mohan Singh. Netaji Subhash Chander Bose became part of it after eight years.

· Out of 42000 armymen of Azad Hind Fauz, 28000 were Sikhs.

· The sentence of Kalapani in Andman Jail. The number of the Sikhs were maximum.