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Yet you didn't know Confucian, Tao and Chan Buddhism are three separate schools.

Buddhism spread to China, but Chinese philosophy and culture is totally different from India. Ancient China is predominantly Confucian who practice ancestor worship.

China has the largest Buddhist population in the world. Yes, I agree there is very little common culture between India and China, though both Hinduism and Buddhism are dharmic religions.
 
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China has the largest Buddhist population in the world. Yes, I agree there is very little common culture between India and China, though both Hinduism and Buddhism are dharmic religions.

Same for Japan and SE Asia.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Same for Japan and SE Asia.

Cheers, Doc

I don't have much idea on Japan...though I was in Shanghai for 4 months on official work. Their way of life is quite different from India's. Religion is not as important for a Chinese as it is for an Indian, though they have lots of Buddhist temples.
 
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Yet you didn't know Confucian, Tao and Chan Buddhism are three separate schools.

Buddhism spread to China, but Chinese philosophy and culture is totally different from India. Ancient China is predominantly Confucian who practice ancestor worship.
In some sense Budhism was assimilated by China due to it's non-caste teaching, logical philosophy on life etc. The Hindus on the other hand rejected it and destroyed it. Sri Lanka was the last refuge.
 
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Yeah, know that.

But nothing of Chinese origin aside from chilly chicken is worshipped in India.

So the net flow of spirituality teacher to student is still India to China..

Cheers, Doc

Chinese civilization is irreligious, doesn't revolve around religious text, as such there is no attempt to spread any religious ideology.

If you want to see it as teacher to student, ancient Chinese technology and product like making of silk and paper are taught to India. Chinese even taught Indian its own history, since India doesn't have recorded history.

And it was Silk Road established by China that enabled the flow of good and ideas. Without which, nothing could've happened. Perhaps, China should learn to brag like Indians.

China has the largest Buddhist population in the world. Yes, I agree there is very little common culture between India and China, though both Hinduism and Buddhism are dharmic religions.

In percentage term, less than 10% are Buddhist. With 1.4 billion people, 2% projected Christian will make China the world's largest Christian population soon.
 
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In percentage term, less than 10% are Buddhism. With China 1.4 billion people, Christianity is projected to largest in the world too.

You are wrong..18.2% of Chinese identify themselves as Buddhist. Another 200 million Chinese practice Buddhism but don't say they are Buddhist. That makes almost 400 million Chinese practicing Buddhism. Christianity is not a major religion with only 2.5% of Chinese following it. The largest follower belong to folklore religions that are numerous across China.

http://fo.ifeng.com/special/zhongfolanshu/
 
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You are wrong..18.2% of Chinese identify themselves as Buddhist. Another 200 million Chinese practice Buddhism but don't say they are Buddhist. That makes almost 400 million Chinese practicing Buddhism. Christianity is not a major religion with only 2.5% of Chinese following it. The largest follower belong to folklore religions that are numerous across China.

http://fo.ifeng.com/special/zhongfolanshu/


It depends on the source. Major study shows up to 90% Chinese are aethist/irreligious, without affiliation.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-religious-countries/?utm_term=.a7f99c520c5f
 
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SriLanka can chose whoever they want and title was in bad taste .
But they should also ensure that their soil shouldnt be used against us .And if they do that then things would become very bad .
Your Hambantota is already in Chinese hand and let see how they use it .
We have ISRO and a lots of other R&D facilities in South India.
 
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More like Chinese culture and folk lore than Buddhist, Tao and Confucian. I'm not so sure China of today actually follows Confucian anymore, since Confucians tends to support landlords and then Mao happen. There was an attempt by Hu/Wen to make it popular again but most Chinese just laugh it off like it was a joke.

Anyway at least China doesn't want to incorporate Sir Lanka like what India plans to do?
 
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Sri Lanka’s New Regionalism: Looking beyond South Asia

Kithmina Hewage Jul 19, 2017

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Since the conclusion of a nearly three-decade long conflict in 2009, Sri Lanka’s prominence in Indian Ocean politics has grown significantly. Whereas during the conflict its outlook was predominantly security-oriented, the island nation has now become prominent in economic and political matters in the region. However, despite its role as a pioneer of South Asian regionalism through the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC), Sri Lanka is increasingly turning towards broader engagement with East Asia. In doing so, the country is recognizing its pivotal position as a strategic asset to both India and China. The island nation’s move towards engagement beyond South Asia has placed Sri Lanka in the midst of Indo-China politics, which, if balanced astutely, could largely benefit its economy and political standing in the region.


The Pivot to East Asia

Sri Lanka’s shift away from a South Asian focus was initiated under former President Mahinda Rajapaksa in the immediate aftermath of the civil war. This was prompted mostly by political necessity. Sri Lanka was facing growing political pressures from the international community regarding alleged war crimes, and China offered much-needed cover at the United Nations and other international forums. Moreover, China was willing to provide unconditional economic support to finance large-scale infrastructure development, albeit through loans at market-rate interest. India’s reticence to fully embrace the Rajapaksa administration provided China with the opportunity to embrace Sri Lanka as an ally with vital geostrategic importance. In return, Sri Lanka shifted away from its carefully curated non-aligned foreign policy in the Indian Ocean and started engaging in activities that demonstrated its new allegiance with China. Over the past five or so years, China has provided the island nation with financial support to develop an international seaport and airport, while also investing heavily in the Colombo Port City project. Each of these investments and actions has consequently raised concerns with India and its allies.



Sri Lanka’s current look to establish closer politico-economic ties with countries beyond South Asia is driven by economic necessity as much as political expediency. As a small island economy with a population of 21 million, Sri Lanka depends heavily on foreign direct investment (FDI) and its export sector to catalyze economic growth. However, Sri Lanka’s post-conflict economic progress has been underwhelming, especially in its export sector. Domestic protectionist policies hinder the competitiveness of Sri Lankan firms, and the country is in dire need of diversifying its export basket and expanding exports beyond its traditional markets in the United States and United Kingdom.



The inadequacy of regional value chains within South Asia has further heightened the need for Sri Lanka to look elsewhere for profitable economic linkages. Unlike those in East Asia, Latin America, and Europe, production and trade networks in South Asia are almost non-existent. Intra-regional trade in South Asia stands at a meager 5 percent, and that too is heavily influenced by bilateral trade with India. Cognizant of its weak position on the global economic platform and the failures of regional trade agreements such as the South Asian Free Trade Agreement (SAFTA), Sri Lanka is currently negotiating a trifecta of bilateral trade and investment agreements with India, China, and Singapore. These agreements are expected to act as the platform upon which Sri Lanka’s economic pivot across the Indian Ocean takes place.


Recalibrating Indo-China Politics


The most critical consequence of Sri Lanka’s new regionalism is an acute awareness of its need to balance the interests of India and China. Immediately following the January 2015 presidential election, the new Sri Lankan government halted the Colombo Port City project in an attempt to appease India by signaling independence from Chinese influence. The government has since recognized that Sri Lanka’s economic dependence on China for investment and debt relief makes close cooperation imperative. Yet Sri Lanka has taken considerable measures over the past two years to demonstrate its willingness to balance both Indian and Chinese interests. This effort was evident when the Sri Lankan Prime Minister welcomed Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to Colombo, then visited China immediately afterward to attend a summit on the Belt and Road initiative. The Sri Lankan government is also currently negotiating a debt-to-equity swap with China by granting it access to an industrial park and management of the Hambantota Deep Sea Port and Mattala International Airport, while at the same time agreeing to work with India to develop a war-era oil tank farm in Trincomalee, a strategic port on the East Coast of the island.



While India initially seemed concerned by the Sri Lankan shift towards China, it now views the country’s amended Indian Ocean focus more favorably. This is especially important as India itself moves towards broader regional engagement. Along with its growing relationship with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), India is also a critical stakeholder in negotiating the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP). Thus, Sri Lanka’s expanding relations align well with India’s priorities. Sri Lanka is beginning to establish itself as a logistical hub for Indian manufacturing and trade, while also positioning itself as an increasingly reliable political ally. In fact, India appears to be facilitating Sri Lanka’s broader Indian Ocean focus by providing greater credence to the Bay of Bengal Initiative for Multi-Sectoral Technical and Economic Cooperation (BIMSTEC) as a potential alternative to SAARC.



At the same time, even though China undoubtedly prefers to be Sri Lanka’s prominent partner, China also appears to support Sri Lankan balanced regionalism. For example, China has been willing to compromise on issues of land ownership and investment conditions while providing the Sri Lankan government adequate policy space to engage with India. China will support this balance so long as it is allowed to pursue its strategic investments in Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. In fact, if Sri Lanka’s free trade agreements with India, China, and Singapore proceed as expected, the island nation could be positioned as a conduit for further economic engagement between the regional superpowers, which would be in all three nations’ interests. For instance, Chinese investors could invest in industrial zones in Sri Lanka to export to both China and India under an improved free trade agreement between Sri Lanka and India.



Conclusion


Sri Lanka’s shift towards East Asia is somewhat inevitable given the decades-long stagnation of SAARC and the necessity for the country to reduce its dependence on American and European markets. Additionally, an increasingly inward-looking American foreign and economic policy and the consequent shift in global economic power towards the East increases opportunities for Sri Lanka to position itself as a regional economic hub. The change in focus, however, could pose potential challenges in terms of balancing Indian and Chinese interests. Both nations consider Sri Lanka a strategic asset, while also recognizing the concerns of their counterpart. Therefore, to balance Indian and Chinese interests to its advantage, Sri Lanka will need to pursue a form of “strategic promiscuity” that will enable it to leverage the benefits of both regional superpowers.

http://www.ips.lk/talkingeconomics/2017/07/19/sri-lankas-new-regionalism-looking-beyond-south-asia/
 
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"suspicious sacred cow" :o:
You don't see brutally honest titles from articles written by diplomats very often
 
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"suspicious sacred cow" :o:
You don't see brutally honest titles from articles written by diplomats very often

Well given the hyper Hindu nationalism that seem to be engulfing India, Increasingly the scared cow seem to be recognized with it all over the world, Probably not the elephant it envisaged to be likened to in the past

I dont see what so offensive about the term
 
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Chinese civilization is irreligious, doesn't revolve around religious text, as such there is no attempt to spread any religious ideology.

If you want to see it as teacher to student, ancient Chinese technology and product like making of silk and paper are taught to India. Chinese even taught Indian its own history, since India doesn't have recorded history.

And it was Silk Road established by China that enabled the flow of good and ideas. Without which, nothing could've happened. Perhaps, China should learn to brag like Indians.



In percentage term, less than 10% are Buddhist. With 1.4 billion people, 2% projected Christian will make China the world's largest Christian population soon.

India has recorded history. there are plenty of written books for the past 2000 years.
Two well known Chinese travellers visited India and made notes

2% christian won't make you largest Christian population
 
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India has recorded history. there are plenty of written books for the past 2000 years.
Two well known Chinese travellers visited India and made notes

2% christian won't make you largest Christian population

Greek has Herodotus, China has Sima Qian and more. India has no historian. (The account of Chinese travellers are Chinese archive, India kept no record)

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Rome and India: Aspects of Universal History during the Principate," by Walter Schmitthenner; The Journal of Roman Studies https://www.jstor.org/stable/299062?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents



I meant projected increase of Christians population.
 
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