best option for pakistan in iran war

[shahbaz baig]

Sectarian? Anyone standing in front of the pakistani gov't will die Pakistani or not and will be brushed aside as Terrorist especially any iranian element.

You question the resolve of the pakistani gov't and majority? They are indeed heavy handed they just need that little push you will see

I am also overseas Pakistani I know better then you.
We have open borders with Iran yet.

Before doing anything first completely secure the pak-iran border with innovative tech or else be ready for the huge bad consequences in the history of Pakistan.

 

[PakAlp]

The worst and completely illogical thing to do for Pakistan.
Join zionists in attacking Iran and be the next target right after Iran.

You kids really need to grow some brains and ability to decipher the real knowledge instead of being a victim to the Matrix.

Makes sense. Thankfully our military has a professional mindset otherwise we would be like middle east

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Hi,

What an illiterate eanswer---.

Everything we are suffering today is because of pakistani public---. It took them 13 years after 9/11 to accept the truth that was staring on their faces is that the terrorists were not their brothers in islam---. Osama Bin Laden that murdering bas-tard was humping his 16 years old wife when pakistanis were dying left and right thinking that he was the saint incarnate---.

Paskistanis are not a nation----they are like cows---they are a herd of sheep---no character---no identity---no sovereign standing---. Every thug and murderer who claimed a religious name became their source of salvation---.

If red mosque Moulvi had created that scenarior during any Khalifa of islam time---the Khalifa would have had him---all the women---girls---boys---men and their families executed in a manner that none would cause a stir against the will and writ of state---.

But my nation---supported the Moulvi who had built a mosque on a HARAM place that was not the legal property of the mosque but was a stolen property by force---.

A nation that cannot distinguish between that character of a mosque being haram or halal---what is expected of that nation except for confusion and chaos---.

A mosque that has no identity of honesty behind it---a follower who has no understanding of his belief---.

Pakistanis have disgraced themselves and their nation for not being pakistani first---not standing with the flag of pakistan---but prefered the thug and criminal Osama Bin Laden---a man who had the blood of 2 million innocent afghan citizens---.

And you have the audacity to blame Gen Musharraf---.

Todate---the incursion of the US military has resulted in the deaths of around 6 million muslims in the effected region in the last 18 years---.

More deaths than were caused by the invasion of Hulagu Khan---.

If it was not for Gen Mushrraf---that number alone would have superceded in pakistan alone---.

Sure, we have different views brother.

I strongly believe that Musharraf’s heavy handed approach cost us much as a society.

We lost our foreign Islamic students who were a vital link to their countries and a source of a positive image for Pakistan.

As a result we created the dual problems of isolationism and religious anti-state radicalism which manifested in TTP, Lal Masjid, some parts of JI, and now TLP.

Our mistreatment of journalists and politicians during Musharraf’s reign resulted in increased public anger (esp in KPK and Tribal areas,) and along with lackeyism to the US/NATO invasion, we fed the propaganda of our enemies that we are pawns of kaffir powers, which said kaffir powers (+ India) used against us to recruit for ANA, TTP, and now Daesh.

We failed to be proactive and to predict the negative repercussions of our actions after 9/11, which has cost us so many lives and also the health of our economy and our former friendships.

More than 20% to 25% of Pakistani population are shias, opening this can of worms is just not worth it no matter how much money is offered , only a fool would trust the US in any deal.

Probably more like 10-15% honestly.

 

[Pakistani captain]

Iran is our brother nation.
Even if USA invade Iran. We should secretly provide weapons to Iran. Nd teach to US that what is the mean of messing with Pakistan

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Obama was definitely worse. With Trump I think Pakistan could have handled it better, but it doesn't matter now because it's too late.

They are fighting a Crusader war against us. We need to wake up. It may not be religious this time, but it has all the markings of a civilization conflict which they are pushing domestically here in the US.

Turkey, Iran, and Pakistan are under the radar of the US precisely because we are the three strongest and most independent Muslim nations. They want to bring us under their thumb and destroy our sovereignty.

There is a reason why weak countries like BD and Morocco are not in their sights.

Afghanistan war was actually meant to destroy the fabric of our society, which has partially succeeded economically, but it has also made Pakistan more unified.

Syria and Iraq to prepare the PKK for an Israeli proxy state to attack and pressure Turkey, which has mostly failed due to Russian and Turkish actions.

Iran actually has faired better than us regionally, hence why they have now become a target.

 

[Khanate]

Or stay neutral and covertly support Iran. Do this in exchange for Iranians kicking out Indians.

We did just that during Iran-Iraq war and we got Kulbhushan Jadhav in return.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

We did just that during Iran-Iraq war and we got Kulbhushan Jadhav in return.

Not everyone who stabs you in the back a few times is your enemy and not everyone who helps you a few times is your friend.

We need to be more sensible and read the geopolitical situation.

Iran is going through turbulent times and is led by people who are not loyal to their own country's interests like Gen Suleimani.

We don’t choose our neighbors, but we are stuck with them. How we act today will determine everything in the future.

Yet I agree, we should keep pressuring Iran on Chahbahar, Kulbushan Yadav, and Pakistani pilgrims turned Shia militants.

 

[Narcissist]

They are fighting a Crusader war against us. We need to wake up. It may not be religious this time, but it has all the markings of a civilization conflict which they are pushing domestically here in the US.

Turkey, Iran, and Pakistan are under the radar of the US precisely because we are the three strongest and most independent Muslim nations. They want to bring us under their thumb and destroy our sovereignty.

There is a reason why weak countries like BD and Morocco are not in their sights.

Afghanistan war was actually meant to destroy the fabric of our society, which has partially succeeded economically, but it has also made Pakistan more unified.

Syria and Iraq to prepare the PKK for an Israeli proxy state to attack and pressure Turkey, which has mostly failed due to Russian and Turkish actions.

Iran actually has faired better than us regionally, hence why they have now become a target.

Turkey is becoming a pariah as well. They have recently been falling in rank politically and via trade.

Iran unfortunately doesn't deal well with us, even though they should be friendlier to us than to India. This may be because of our coziness with Saudi.

Either way, we should not get involved, and a war with Iran and US would be disastrous.

This is all unfortunate because they proclaim to be secular, but behave like xtians who haven't gotten over the crusade. The irony is their own killed their most useful and powerful crusaders... not sure where this is heading, but we need to secure our future.

 

[Respect4Respect01]

Sectarian? Anyone standing in front of the pakistani gov't will die Pakistani or not and will be brushed aside as Terrorist especially any iranian element.

lol...so you think our army is going to kill its own people? our state can't even handle traitors like Manzoor Pashteen and you are talking about killing civilians?

 

[CHACHA"G"]

Listen up guys , First their wont be any big attack or war on Iran from USA...… They will not going to attack man...
But if They do attack and war start then their are 2 ways to it :

1. Islamic point of view (we have to forget how many times Iran backstabbed us we just have to join them this way also means death.
2. Economical way (in other words "looking after own interests") , Well Iran after 79 is pain in the azz for Pakistan , this attack will be golden opportunity , Just be like other humans , just do what history tells us(Muslim kings attacking Muslim kingdoms for benefits) nothing new(happening from 1000s of years) , I am sure Iran will do the same . Just look at how they sold Pakistan in AQ Khan case and recently how Iran provided USA intelligence about Mula Mansor and how he got killed in Pakistan (he was coming from Iran after visiting afghanistan).

Just say if we chose Number 2 , then who said attack Iran , we can still stay away from real conflict , How:

• Do not participate in attacking Iran .
• Send troops to GCC for their protection from any Attack (from Iran or any one).
• Take economical benefits form GCC for doing #2 and please add Jobs and FTA with GCC.

If war started please don't stay fukin neutral , that will harm Pakistan more then going to war directly. Refuges , no relationship with GCC or USA , no money no honey..
Edit: After going 9 pages I find out people talking about CPEC , China and Russia .. First of all CPEC is for trade not for war and in trade CPEC is here to provide safe passage for oil supplies(with other goods) to China (And yes Form GCC oil producing countries )… And China will never going to help Pakistan or Iran in war Against USA and allies . 2nd Russia , Yes Russia showed us She can help her allies , but still we are not sure will Russia help Iran , According to some news Russia is also against Iran's moves in Syria and Iraq.. And what if USA offer better deal to Russia and Russian economy ?Russian will take that..

Think about your family , city , and country and your Nation first .. Think about Pakistan..

 

[fitpOsitive]

the only logical thing from here for pakistan.
join USA GCC wholeheartedly
demand 8 things which will be super easy.
1:afghanistan which they are leaving anyway.
2:struck off all debts which can be done with strock of pen.
3: atleast 10 billion aid.5 from usa 5 from gcc combined.and plus 100 billion investment.from allies.
4: engage 100k troops.
but demand 25% of irani land bordering pakistan.and also a slice from other resources.by this we will fully control hormuz and our standing in gulf will reach skies.we maybe even invited to GcC in future.
5: make a long-standing alliance peg rupee with dollar do a currency reforms take 100 old rupees and give em 1 new rupee a stronger rupee pegged with usd ask FTA from america and gcc.
6:push for an arms deal.worth 50 billion upgrade the whole military.csf alone of 2bln from us will contribute enough on top gulf allies can fund us like egypt.
7:ack as a bride between america and china which we always were.
the FTA which we will get will force china to relocate huge industries to pakistan making us a manufacturing hub of region.
8:to make things solid throw an idea of giving 2 bases to america one shamsi.another along arabian sea.this will guarantee future of relationship and make americans committed ro the understandings.
with this small adjustment we will be from no body of today in a year will be super power.cherry on top nukes and cpec.
indians only understand language of power.they will come on term like good boys
we will see a prosperity like never before all we need is some courage
@MastanKhan @Mangus Ortus Novem @Khafee @waz @BHarwana @Winchester

That's called selling your brother to your enemy. And by doing this, Pakistan will mir Jafars fate. Because next is Pakistan on USAs list.

 

[AZ1]

Dont join the war simple is that. US will side line us and then there will be never ending tension with iran.

 

[Enigma SIG]

PDF has recently become ripe with the notions of whoring out the US/GCC/Israeli alliance.
I mean really; selling out for a few bucks and swim in the blood of fellow muslims? DAFUK is wrong with y'all? Then arguing about why FATF is out to get us.

All you keyboard warriors need to put a few Xanax down your throats and calm your tits. Everything doesn't revolve around money.

As I see it; PDF is being misled by some posters "in the US/GCC" to join the offensive against a neighbor without thinking through the effects of such a misadventure. All postings end in "oh but we'll get millions out of it"; but in reality will result in the immediate region going directly to hell; while the US/GCC posters sit comfortably in their pent houses laughing all the way to the bank about a gullible population willing to slaughter their brethren because someone on the internet said so.

 

[khansaheeb]

Let the world burn this will take attention off us and let us work on our progress. Put CPEC in full swing. America is going to get busy in war in the mean time topple Afghan govt and destroy every Indian embassy in Afghanistan. By the time America get free it will be combaya.

We had one setback, Afghanistan, where a hostile terrorist hole has been created; we cannot and must not allow another hostile government to be created next to us, whatever the cost, or else we will be enslaved for a hundred years. The mullahs next door are not as bad as the Karzai and Ghanis next door as we have been living peacefully with them for over 20 years.Let's not change things for short term Arab thinking. There is a great strategic threat to Pakistan and any undesirable regime change will have great consequences for Pakistan`and we could end up saying bye bye to Baluchistan and perhaps end up like Bangladesh, a poodle to India. Our independence is being indirectly challenged and our sovereignty is under long term threat. A foothold of any enemy in Iran will have a direct bearing on the terrorism in Baluchistan and this could well be the long term game plan for Pakistan. India already has a foothold in Chahabar and it has multifaceted designs in the area bordering Pakistan. We have seen them in play on the Afghanistan border and the terrorism they have instigated across the border and expect the same for South West Pakistan. We have also seen Indian hand in Quetta through their routes in Chaman, Nushki and Ziarat and the carnage they have brought on the hapless Pakistani people.

As our challenges are being doubled it is time to double our defense expenditure, unfortunately sacrifices have to be made.

 

[ali_raza]

Can you please add a cpl of brand spanking new Mustags in Kona Blue

no joke but we can ask for ford manufacturing plant.
since jeep is also fords.we can start making it for our army and mustang we can give u if u want but u have to pay lol