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A US-based military aircraft manufacturer is preparing to return to Turkey after it pulled out several years ago over a dispute over a tender.

Bell Helicopter, which is a part of the Textron Group, shut down their offices in Turkey following negotiations to sell military helicopters to Turkey after the talks went nowhere, but now sources say the industrial giant is planning to return.

Sources say Textron executive John Garrison along with a group of company representatives met with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Thursday to ensure political support before resuming their operations here

The prime minister also serves as the chairman of the Executive Committee of the Undersecretariat of the Defense Industry (SSM), which has the final say on national weapons purchases. Other decision makers on the Executive Committee include Defense Minister İsmet Yılmaz and Chief of General Staff Gen. Necdet Özel.

In fact, the company has already partially returned to Turkey. In April, Textron sold 15 Bell 429 helicopters to the National Police Department. According to sources who wish to remain anonymous, the company is planning to compete in a general purpose helicopter procurement tender for the Land Forces Command. The company wants to propose its latest 412 helicopter model for this tender.

The last time Textron participated in a tender was in 2004, when the company competed against Russia in a tender for assault helicopters. The tender was able to be reopened after years of talks with the company. Turkey canceled the tender, saying that outsourcing tenders would not help in contributing to the country's own national defense industry. Textron and other actors felt at the time that Turkey was stalling the competing companies and stealing their time. Textron simply pulled out of the Turkish market by closing its Ankara office in protest of its treatment during that tender.

Recently, the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) started co-manufacturing assault helicopters with Italy's Augusta Westland as part of a model that will enhance the national defense industry.

In a stock exchange statement it made in April, Textron announced it had quadrupled profits from commercial and military helicopter sales in the first quarter of this year. The company predicts $12.5 billion in sales for this year.

source: Bell Helicopter plans comeback to Turkish market
 
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A US-based military aircraft manufacturer is preparing to return to Turkey after it pulled out several years ago over a dispute over a tender.
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I guess it was AH-1Z King Cobra tender if i am not mistaken..Nevertheless, good news
 
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I have been looking for information on why they pulled out but haven't had much success, but there were some mentioning in some cables:
ANKARA MEDIA REACTION REPORT

US embassy cables: US-Turkey relations improve | World news | guardian.co.uk

And looking at the helicopters they have I have to say they look nice especially the AH-1Z
http://www.bellhelicopter.com/en_US/Military/Military.html

KingCobra

Turkish Government officials announced on 21 July 2000 that the Bell Helicopter Textron KingCobra had been selected as the winner to fulfill its attack helicopter requirements. Bell would subsequently enter into negotiations as to specifics of the program and applicable agreements. The KingCobra was the Turkish variant of the AH-1Z being developed for the US Marine Corps. Along with wheeled gear, the KingCobra incorporated significant mission equipment to be provided by Turkish defense industries.

The newest version of the Cobra Attack Helicopter was equipped with state- of-the-art avionics, power train and weapons systems. This combination of modern technology and Bell Helicopter reliability and ruggedness was said by the manufacturer to make this third generation Cobra the most cost effective and modern attack helicopter available in the world at the time.

The initial Turkish requirement called for 50 aircraft at a cost of approximately $1.5 billion (US) with a possible build-up to 145 aircraft. Bell Helicopter Textron would be the primary sub-contractor on the program with Tusas Aerospace Industries Inc. of Ankara, Turkey acting as prime contractor. Additionally, there wiykd be numerous other sub-contractors that will provide the armament, avionics and engines.

On 2 June 2000 Turkish Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit said that Turkey had postponed a decision on a massive $4.5 billion tender to build 145 strike helicopters.

Prior to the Executive Committee's decision dated May 2004, Tusas Uzay ve Havacilik San. AS was selected as prime contractor. In order to determine foreign company, proposals from Agusta (Italy), Bell (USA), Boeing (USA), Eurocopter (France) and Kamov (Russian Federation) were received. Contract negotiations with two companies in the short list, Bell and Kamov, were executed. The last status of the project was discussed at the Executive Committee's meeting dated 14 May 2004, and it was evaluated that the proposals of subject firms did not meet the expectations related to price, delivery schedule, contracts terms and conditions for technical & administrative issues. Based on this, bid was been cancelled and it was decided to accept a new bid for a new project model. SSM had begun to make preparations on the new project model which aims also to meet requirements in a shorter period and to use in-country capabilities and use its best effort to publish Request for Proposal (RFP) as soon as possible.

I guess the main problems were the price and tech transfer
 
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Haha OMG listen Mr. Expert, AH-1Z is the king cobra! Btw Go and read the link (i doubt u did) you posted and show me where it says otherwise.
 
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Haha OMG listen Mr. Expert, AH-1Z is the king cobra! Btw Go and read the link (i doubt u did) you posted and show me where it says otherwise.

The entire Article says it otherwise, I read it yes unlike you and there was never stated that its names is KingCobra. Its name WAS KingCobra but thats no Longer. Shows how much of an imbecile you are. Accusing be of not reading it and in the end not reading it yourself.

It can be Viper/Zulu now, but back in 2000 it was AH-1Z KingCobra..anyhow, not important

I know bro, Thats was my point. For some reason this is a big issue now.
 
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Well they can call it Pink Bubblegum for all I care, it's the specs that are important. So since they pulled out we didn't get this helicopter in our arsenal, and it has a service regard that's impressive. How does it compare to the Augusta ?
 
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I hope that this 'comeback' is conditional on some value-added additions to the Local Industry !
 
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Okay now you do admit AH1Z is the KingCobra and so i was right but you called me imbecile because i owned you with this basic simple fact, arent you the one all over the place on yt, waff, pdf acting like you are some kInd of a military expert?! You dont even know this simpliest thing the basic stuff lol!
 
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Okay now you do admit AH1Z is the supercobra and so i was right but you called me imbecile because i owned you with this basic simple fact, arent you the one all over the place on yt, waff, pdf acting like you are some kInd of a military expert?! You dont even know this simpliest thing the basic stuff lol!

The stupidy of this guy is just amazing. From my perspective i was right. You said the KingCobra is Viper, But that classification is never used again since the 2000s. I said Its name WAS KingCobra but thats no Longer Am i right or wrong? I rest my case...
 
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Okay guys, lets stick to the topic..

What i dont understand is, in the article it says "the company is planning to compete in a general purpose helicopter procurement tender for the Land Forces Command. The company wants to propose its latest 412 helicopter model for this tender"
So what is this? :
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-241716-turkey-shakes-hands-with-us-sikorsky-in-35-bln-chopper-deal.html

I thought we picked Sikorsky T-70 as general purpose helicopter for the army including land forces..What am i missing here?
 
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