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Be like China, India told


Ashwani TalwarExpress News ServiceFirst Published : 02 Nov 2010 02:44:35 AM ISTLast Updated : 02 Nov 2010 03:53:13 PM IST

NEW DELHI: “Be like China” - This is the advice Pete Dagher, American President Barack Obama’s former campaign manager, offers India. He compares China to a squeaky wheel that gets the grease because it makes so much noise. India, in contrast, was too “respectful.”


At an interaction organised by the Observer Research Foundation ahead of US President Barack Obama’s visit, the discussion veered to comparisons between how China and India handle their relationships with the United States.

Dagher said Obama was unlikely to make a public statement during the trip acknowledging India’s concerns over China.

He was also unlikely to announce any change in the policy that allows tax breaks for companies that outsource parts of their business.

Dagher, who made clear he was speaking in his personal capacity and not on Obama’s behalf, conceded that China was more likely to get what it wants from the US.

He didn’t agree completely with former diplomat Arundhati Ghose’s observation that this was because China was a stronger country. Ghose also reminded that India too had been making a lot of noise -- an apparent reference to issues like outsourcing and sale of arms to Pakistan. “But nobody listens,” she said.

Dagher said China gets what it wants because it doesn’t take no for an answer. “If the slightest thing is said against the Chinese, they react. They do sabre-rattling. You have heard the expression, the squeaking wheel gets the grease,” he reminded.

India has to assert itself, he said. “It has to realise its power. It has to say that - and say we don’t want to be the younger brother.’’ :lol:
 
China has starting getting belligerent( from the US perspective of course).For India the whole world has always been belligerent,so it is a kind of new experience to find Obama the President of the reigning superpower,worried about Bangalore and Indian kids walking away with jobs.We are getting used to people putting us up on a pedestal,it takes time to get used to the changing times.It is a slow process and hopefully we will make it on merit and not by recommendation or advice.
 
Be like China

The man is somewhat right when it comes to security and national policy aspect. We should remove this self-imposed decency and start being assertive like Chinese. This farce of a democratic "civilized" attitude that serves Europe, Middle East and our neighbours more than it serves the national interest is becoming a problem as everyone takes us for granted.

I think China has a lot to teach our lethargic losers about how to assert what is ours. Even though we're political rivals, Indian strategic circle has a lot to learn from China as a foreign country. The irony is that despite having Chanakyaniti like treasure on how to become a superpower, our corrupt and stupid politicians don't use it.
 
this reminds me of a saying
' BE THE FIRST VERSION OF URSELF RATHER THAN BEING SECOND VERSION OF SOMEONE ELSE '

i would like india to improve itself but not by watching or copying anyone.

Bang! on the point,:cheers:

Only India knows and can reach her potential.

We can learn from the others experience but setting them as a benchmark doesn't help.
 
Be like China, India told


Ashwani TalwarExpress News ServiceFirst Published : 02 Nov 2010 02:44:35 AM ISTLast Updated : 02 Nov 2010 03:53:13 PM IST

NEW DELHI: “Be like China” - This is the advice Pete Dagher, American President Barack Obama’s former campaign manager, offers India. He compares China to a squeaky wheel that gets the grease because it makes so much noise. India, in contrast, was too “respectful.”


At an interaction organised by the Observer Research Foundation ahead of US President Barack Obama’s visit, the discussion veered to comparisons between how China and India handle their relationships with the United States.

Dagher said Obama was unlikely to make a public statement during the trip acknowledging India’s concerns over China.

He was also unlikely to announce any change in the policy that allows tax breaks for companies that outsource parts of their business.

Dagher, who made clear he was speaking in his personal capacity and not on Obama’s behalf, conceded that China was more likely to get what it wants from the US.

He didn’t agree completely with former diplomat Arundhati Ghose’s observation that this was because China was a stronger country. Ghose also reminded that India too had been making a lot of noise -- an apparent reference to issues like outsourcing and sale of arms to Pakistan. “But nobody listens,” she said.

Dagher said China gets what it wants because it doesn’t take no for an answer. “If the slightest thing is said against the Chinese, they react. They do sabre-rattling. You have heard the expression, the squeaking wheel gets the grease,” he reminded.

India has to assert itself, he said. “It has to realise its power. It has to say that - and say we don’t want to be the younger brother.’’ :lol:

So, in short,the author wants India to be more direct,decisive and aggressive in its approach.
Thats a new idea,I appreciate the concern of the author.
Unfortunately,I dont think,India takes such an approach,or such an approach will do any good for India.

If we take a sabre-rattling approach,then very soon things will boil down to taking sides in the International platform.I dont think India can afford the idea of taking sides.Since its creation India has been a part of NAM and the outlook has been so.It is because of this neutral approach,that India has nice and cordial relations for years with the Arab countries as well as Israel.The International relations will take a bad hit if India tries to impose itself over any other nation.

Hampered International relations will hamper trade.
It would be a paradigm shift if India ever takes the approach as suggested by the author.

Changes,by the very nature,are driven by necessity.As of now,I dont think,there is any necessity to change the soft approach to a more radical one.Let China be China, and let India be India......
 
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