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B'desh steps up troops deployment on Myanmar border amid row

Army Officers don't give information to even their sons.Muradk said in one of his post that a very good officer of PAF was court martial-led because the son of that officer spread-ed confidential information.Even my grandfather who was in PA did not tell his sons anything when he was in active service.
 
Not sure about that.But not all of them are sent for overhauling at once.So there must be some still here.


Besides Burmese ordered more migs to be delivered by 2010 I think.

We really need some good fighters. I guess F-16 could be a good choice as some of our allies uses them and we could borrow them in case of emergency.
 
:pakistan: Perhaps you do not know what happen?

yesterday morning at 07.00 am , 56 conboy of Artilary regiment are go to the border of barma....... And now they make a 4 Unstable camp in near border ....

Also a infanty regiment go Garison Cantornment in Cox-bazar from Hathazari Cantornment....(perhaps 35 conboy)
I am not well-versed in military logistics. Can raihan or someone explain what exactly is meant by 56 convoys. Is it 56 artillary pieces went with one artillary brigade/division? Could it be one artillary Brigade and not regiment? Regiment seems to have little meaning here.

By the way, is Hathazari cantonment same as we call it Chittagong cantonment? About infantry regiment, is it one division or one brigade or one battallion? Thanks.
 
Army Officers don't give information to even their sons.Muradk said in one of his post that a very good officer of PAF was court martial-led because the son of that officer spread-ed confidential information.Even my grandfather who was in PA did not tell his sons anything when he was in active service.

I agree with you.

But sometimes they give out info remaining annonimous,to the newspaper especially.But they are not those info which will put the operation in jeopardy.
 
I am not well-versed in military logistics. Can raihan or someone explain what exactly is meant by 56 convoys. Is it 56 artillary pieces went with one artillary brigade/division? Could it be one artillary Brigade and not regiment? Regiment seems to have little meaning here.

By the way, is Hathazari cantonment same as we call it Chittagong cantonment? About infantry regiment, is it one division or one brigade or one battallion? Thanks.

a convoy of 56 means there were 56 vehicles in that convoy.
 
:pakistan: Perhaps you do not know what happen?

yesterday morning at 07.00 am , 56 conboy of Artilary regiment are go to the border of barma....... And now they make a 4 Unstable camp in near border ....

Also a infanty regiment go Garison Cantornment in Cox-bazar from Hathazari Cantornment....(perhaps 35 conboy)

Perhaps I dont about troops movement and my friend avoided telling me the tactical move. But these are significant move and visible as they have to move through highway. Daily star, prothom alo and dozen other newspapers covering the topic did not have anything on these move.

If your information is good as you claimed why not provide some proof. And if these are senitive info why are you posting in message board?
 
We really need some good fighters. I guess F-16 could be a good choice as some of our allies uses them and we could borrow them in case of emergency.

But our pilots does not have enough experience with F-16s to get to battle zone.We will have to hire mercenaries to fly them.

One thing to note is that,Burmese have trouble maintaining their migs.But I think they have improved it recently with help from Russians or Ukrainians.

The bottom line is we are not prepared for a major war.But in case of a small scale land conflict,then we have a good chance.
 
What Raihan is saying,that 56 vehicles moved from Commilla to Chittagong,then the major dailies would have definitely reported it.because it is a big movement even at night.And they had to travel a long distance to reach CTG.

I think he is mixing up with previous troop movement already reported.
 
What Raihan is saying,that 56 vehicles moved from Commilla to Chittagong,then the major dailies would have definitely reported it.because it is a big movement even at night.And they had to travel a long distance to reach CTG.

I think he is mixing up with previous troop movement already reported.
In a situation that BD ministers are trying to patch up things with Burma, the govt may not allow all the troop movements to be published in the mass media. However, the dailies have already reported a movement of one brigade (probably 5,000) to the border from Ramu, and a movement of three battallion strength troops from Comilla and Chittagong to Ramu.

A battallion may consist of 500 to 1000 troops. Therefore, what raihan is saying is true. If the Comilla convoy consists of 56 vehicles, then it is one battallion (1,000) troops. About 20 troops in one vehicle, seems okay to me. Then, the other two battallions have been from Chittagong cantonment.

In another news I have read about the presence of 3,000 BDR in the border. It means, a total of about 11,000 BD troops have already reached the possible conflict zone. On the other hand, Burma may have deployed about 55,000 troops including NASAKA. In number, this time also we are the underdog. Last time in 1991, BD deployed about 20,000 troops against the Burmese number of 50,000.

I think our troops since Pakistan time are used to fight against bigger numbers.
 
That was a long A$$ military exercise. Never heard 6 mos long exercise before.

When is Uncle Sam coming in the Bay? Nov 20 right?

Somehow, pmukherjee may know about the US navy schedule. He may be requested to volunteer the information.
 
Army Officers don't give information to even their sons.Muradk said in one of his post that a very good officer of PAF was court martial-led because the son of that officer spread-ed confidential information.Even my grandfather who was in PA did not tell his sons anything when he was in active service.

I am surprised to see the information & the KIND of information ppl from BD are putting on the net.

Not the Burma not must have it, but among the steps in intel gathering are

- Information gathered.
- Information confirmed.

These guys in their exuberance are contributing to the second step.Whom are they helping ?
 
Someone else sent me this -

Bangladesh has deployed 5 or 6 Army infantry brigades, artillery
regiments, air defence artillery batteries, 30 warships, unknown number
of combat aircraft, 6 BDR battalions on top of their normal Army,
Ansar-VDP and BDR presence in the area.

Do we even have 30 warships?
 
I am surprised to see the information & the KIND of information ppl from BD are putting on the net.

Not the Burma not must have it, but among the steps in intel gathering are

- Information gathered.
- Information confirmed.

These guys in their exuberance are contributing to the second step.Whom are they helping ?

The second part is Information confirmed.
All the info we are getting here,apart from newspapers,aren't confirmed.
They may be termed as speculation.

And one more thing,Burmese aren't looking forward to internet forums for info.They are getting first hand info from their spies,who have intruded into BD in last few weeks.BDR caught some Burmese army member in disguise of civilian.Also there are reports of many intrusion by Burmese,as per newspaper reports.This is natural.
 
Someone else sent me this -

Bangladesh has deployed 5 or 6 Army infantry brigades, artillery
regiments, air defence artillery batteries, 30 warships, unknown number
of combat aircraft, 6 BDR battalions on top of their normal Army,
Ansar-VDP and BDR presence in the area.

Do we even have 30 warships?

30 if you consider the small gunboats and torpedo boats.But that will mean sending almost the whole navy out there.The numbers are looking exaggerated to me.
 
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St Martin's Island seen vulnerable
Govt advised to strengthen its defence


Bangladesh Rifles authorities have identified the St Martin's Island as the probable main target of Myanmar and asked the government to immediately strengthen its defence by constructing aircraft landing zones and concrete bunkers.

In a strategic proposal that came in the wake of constant military build-up and intimidation by Myanmar, the BDR has also urged the government to increase defence capability of land and sea borders to repulse any possible aggression by the neighbouring country.

Marking 148km stretch of border with Myanmar and India as unguarded, the border force has suggested setting up temporary frontier camps until a new battalion is set up in Ali Kadam area as per the BDR restructuring proposal.

To safeguard the country's territorial sovereignty, the BDR has sorted out short-, mid- and long-term measures.

It has requested the government to arm the paramilitary force with more manpower and modern military equipment.

The St Martin's Island, the only coral island of the country and the main attraction for local and foreign tourists for its panoramic beauty and pristine marine life, is under the jurisdiction of the Coastguards. The island, which is located in a mineral rich region in the Bay of Bengal, is just about 8km west of the northwest coast of Myanmar.

The BDR has submitted its proposal to the Ministry of Home Affairs, the Prime Minister's Office, the navy and air force headquarters and the director general of Coastguards.

The proposal says Myanmar military often crosses the zero line at the Bandarban frontier and carry out operations to combat various separatist organisations. Apart from erecting barbed-wire fences and mobilising army unilaterally, the Myanmar authorities are forcing their nationals to enter Bangladesh territory.

The BDR has suggested designating responsibilities and areas of jurisdiction of the Coastguards and BDR and making intelligence activities of various agencies faster and stronger.

A senior home ministry official yesterday said the Prime Minister's Office is dealing with the "very sensitive and serious matter".

As short-term plans the BDR has suggested increasing and strengthening overall border patrol to prevent Myanmar nationals or groups from entering Bangladesh territory. It has also recommended identifying the routes of refugees and deploying additional patrol teams.

For quick evaluation of the situation and making decisions, the BDR has suggested incorporating army officers in the existing border outposts along the border with Myanmar.

The other suggestions include reinforcement of police personnel in the bordering Ukhiya and Teknaf upazilas and additional police patrol on the Cox's Bazar-Teknaf Highway, and involving locals including lawmakers, elites, upazila chairmen and members to build awareness against push-in of Rohingya refugees.

"Stern actions should be taken against locals who help refugees come and stay in Bangladesh," says the proposal.

The BDR has suggested erecting barbed-wire fences along the border as a mid-term measure.

The proposed long-term measures include signing an agreement with Myanmar on border security like the 1975 agreement with India, accelerating diplomatic efforts to put pressure on the Myanmar government to resolve the Rohingya crisis and construction of ring roads between border outposts and camps.

To tackle the current tension on the border with Myanmar, the BDR authorities have urged the government to allocate necessary budget for immediate implementation of the short-term plans.

Prof Imtiaz Ahmed of international relations department of Dhaka University said Myanmar is an "isolated state that has minimum links with the international community and has been ruled by military for 20 years".

"Such a country can do anything anytime and Bangladesh should have all kinds of preparations," he said.

"Little diplomatic and political attention has been paid to Myanmar so far. After the BDR proposals, it seems that serious attention is now being paid to Myanmar," said Imtiaz.

News from Daily star , Sunday, October 18, 2009
 

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