Battle of the Air Defense Systems: S-400 Vs Patriot and THAAD

[LeGenD]

There was no real point made.

This was the point: PAC-3 MSE is superior to S-350 and S-400.

As I said, the S-400 is simply not in the same class as the PAC-3.

True. PAC-3 MSE is superior to S-400.

What does that mean? It's already written in the stone. Only S-350 is comparable to PAC-3.

PAC-3 MSE is superior to S-350 and S-400.

You have serious comprehension issues. You don't know the difference between air defence and BMD.

Looks like I am arguing with a child.

Pay attention again:

The system can engage all types of aerial targets including aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), and ballistic and cruise missiles within the range of 400km, at an altitude of up to 30km. The system can simultaneously engage 36 targets.

Source: https://www.army-technology.com/projects/s-400-triumph-air-defence-missile-system/

The target range of "Triumph" with an anti-aircraft guided missile of the 40H6 type is 400 km, and the maximum height at which the object can be reached is 27 km.

Source: https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/s-400.htm

Min/max engagement altitude, km:

aerodynamic target = 0,01 (min) / 27 (max)
ballistic target = 2 (min) / 27 (max)

Source: http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/air-defence-systems/air-defense-systems-and-mounts/s-400-triumf/

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Technicalities of 40N6 interceptor notwithstanding, S-400 system is not optimized for BMD engagements in exo- atmospheric conditions. S-400 can make good use of 40N6 interceptor in anti-aircraft engagements up to claimed range of 400 KM but it cannot achieve exo- atmospheric intercepts with the same interceptor in strictly BMD role due to limitations of its radar system.

Clear now?

That's why you fail to understand your own sources.

Oh dear.

I'm wasting my time with you.

Even you just said 48N6 has a ceiling of 60Km.

You are fixated on the 'peak potential performance' of a particular interceptor, and ignoring operational limitations of the S-400 system on the whole. Irrespective of the interceptor type in use, S-400 is not optimized for defeating ballistic missile targets beyond 30 KM in altitude.

ANALOGY: If you hook Ground-based interceptor (GBI) to AN/TPY-2 radar [exclusively], GBI will fail to deliver due to capacity constraints of AN/TPY-2 radar. GBI's individual performance characteristics will be largely unrealized in this arrangement.

Again, you do not comprehend this.

Frustrated much? YOU continue to display comprehension problems. Perhaps, my conversing methods are beyond your capacity to comprehend.

Even the Americans don't claim this.

This was a complete waste of time. You can continue living in your delusion.

Ironic.

I have conversed with you before on the topic of T-14 Armata, and my experience wasn't good. Same story here. I am so done with you.

 

[randomradio]

This was the point: PAC-3 MSE is superior to S-350 and S-400.

No, it's not.

Pay attention again:

The system can engage all types of aerial targets including aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), and ballistic and cruise missiles within the range of 400km, at an altitude of up to 30km. The system can simultaneously engage 36 targets.

Source: https://www.army-technology.com/projects/s-400-triumph-air-defence-missile-system/

The target range of "Triumph" with an anti-aircraft guided missile of the 40H6 type is 400 km, and the maximum height at which the object can be reached is 27 km.

Source: https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/s-400.htm

Min/max engagement altitude, km:

aerodynamic target = 0,01 (min) / 27 (max)
ballistic target = 2 (min) / 27 (max)

Source: http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/air-defence-systems/air-defense-systems-and-mounts/s-400-triumf/

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Technicalities of 40N6 interceptor notwithstanding, S-400 system is not optimized for BMD engagements in exo- atmospheric conditions. S-400 can make good use of 40N6 interceptor in anti-aircraft engagements up to claimed range of 400 KM but it cannot achieve exo- atmospheric intercepts with the same interceptor in strictly BMD role due to limitations of its radar system.

Clear now?


Oh dear.


You are fixated on the 'peak potential performance' of a particular interceptor, and ignoring operational limitations of the S-400 system on the whole. Irrespective of the interceptor type in use, S-400 is not optimized for defeating ballistic missile targets beyond 30 KM in altitude.

ANALOGY: If you hook Ground-based interceptor (GBI) to AN/TPY-2 radar [exclusively], GBI will fail to deliver due to capacity constraints of AN/TPY-2 radar. GBI's individual performance characteristics will be largely unrealized in this arrangement.


Frustrated much? YOU continue to display comprehension problems. Perhaps, my conversing methods are beyond your capacity to comprehend.


Ironic.

I have conversed with you before on the topic of T-14 Armata, and my experience wasn't good. Same story here. I am so done with you.

Forget it. You don't know the difference between air defence and BMD. You quite literally have no clue about this subject.